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ftgokie · 26 September 2012, 08:47 AM

A friend of mine called me and said he found a Rolex he is considering buying. He did not tell me how much the asking price is, but my friend works off shore oil rigs and has 7 Rolex watches already. He asked me to post this on here to find out if its its possibly real or not.

I am assuming it is real because he said the owner bought it brand new and said he will meet him at a Rolex dealer to verify its authenticity, or have it sent to ROlex to verify its authenticity....he said the owner has the original box and paperwork for the watch, even the original sales reciept.

I dont know anything about Rolex watches for the most part so I will let you guys have a go at it

Shawn

rolexgolfer · 26 September 2012, 08:54 AM

Buy that ASAP that is a red script sub! Worth about 7-10k

T-Rip · 26 September 2012, 01:24 PM

If its real it could be worth 15-20+ K

Very rare if its real

MoBe · 26 September 2012, 01:27 PM

If that`s a real Double Red Sea-Dweller I think you`re looking at a $20-$25k watch.

Higher resolution pictures would be better but from what I can see it looks like the real deal,if I`m mistaken I`m sure another more informed member will set the record straight before too long.

ftgokie · 26 September 2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MoBe

If that`s a real Double Red Sea-Dweller I think you`re looking at a $20-$25k watch.

Higher resolution pictures would be better but from what I can see it looks like the real deal,if I`m mistaken I`m sure another more informed member will set the record straight before too long.

No idea. All I have to go by is what Paul told me about the man that has it is the original owner.

All I know is he sent me the pics and asked me to get this forums opinion. Like I said, I dont know diddly pooh about Rolex watches.

I would like to know what Paul is supposed to be paying for it. I have sent him an email but those oil rig guys work strange shifts

mrbill2mrbill2 · 26 September 2012, 09:07 PM

Should that watch have case back engravings?

robertneville · 26 September 2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

Should that watch have case back engravings?

That is what i was wondering too...

Rjwareagle · 26 September 2012, 10:53 PM

Yes it should. Only a mid 1980's ladies and dwellers should have case back engraving. There are a few very old ones that do also

Chngster · 26 September 2012, 11:05 PM

Can someone explain why double red is so special?

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Watchmutt · 27 September 2012, 12:10 AM

Oh, that would be a great find if it was real. If he buys it, it would be great to see close up pics.

T-Rip · 27 September 2012, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rjwareagle

Yes it should. Only a mid 1980's ladies and dwellers should have case back engraving. There are a few very old ones that do also

Very limited production... the "double red" is one the holy grail in rolex sports watches...

Put some more pics up

crowncollection · 27 September 2012, 07:53 AM

need better pics these are often faked

MoBe · 27 September 2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chngster

Can someone explain why double red is so special?

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Production of this model was relatively limited and the numbers of surviving watches diminishes over time so it becomes even more rare as a greater number of collectors seek the same type of watch and the law of supply and demand kicks in and prices go crazy.

Lt.Arclight · 27 September 2012, 12:18 PM

Looks real. With the appropriate documentation,it looks like someone found a good one!

waspy1 · 27 September 2012, 01:10 PM

You'll need better hi resolution close up pics of the dial and case back for starters. You'll also need good pics of the model number and serial number on the case with the bracelet removed. I wouldn't buy one without really knowing the buyer and having done lots of research. Huge chance of getting fingers burned. You'll need to check that the serial number matches with the dial style for that number range. So much to check. An authorised dealer is unlikely to have a clue other than possibly verify its a genuine Rolex. But since so much of the value of a drsd is in the dial you need to be 100% sure it's all correct.

ftgokie · 27 September 2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by waspy1

You'll need better hi resolution close up pics of the dial and case back for starters. You'll also need good pics of the model number and serial number on the case with the bracelet removed. I wouldn't buy one without really knowing the buyer and having done lots of research. Huge chance of getting fingers burned. You'll need to check that the serial number matches with the dial style for that number range. So much to check. An authorised dealer is unlikely to have a clue other than possibly verify its a genuine Rolex. But since so much of the value of a drsd is in the dial you need to be 100% sure it's all correct.

Paul called me and could only talk a few minutes. I told him I really didnt have any information on the watch but he said the original owner, a 72yr old man, bought this watch brand new from a dealer in Atlanta..Paul said the man told him the reciept was dated November 1968 and price was $298.00. He also said he has everything that came with the watch when the man walked out the dealers door, but the box was written on by his daughter he said around 1973 when she was about 5yrs old.

Thats all the info I have right now. I asked Paul to call the guy to let me come take high resolution pics of the watch and get all the information I can off of it..so just waiting to hear back from him now.

mmmk604 · 27 September 2012, 03:02 PM

Here's some info on it:
http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/0012_1.shtml

mmmk604 · 27 September 2012, 03:02 PM

Here's some info on it:
http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/0012_1.shtml

Watchmutt · 27 September 2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ftgokie

Paul called me and could only talk a few minutes. I told him I really didnt have any information on the watch but he said the original owner, a 72yr old man, bought this watch brand new from a dealer in Atlanta..Paul said the man told him the reciept was dated November 1968 and price was $298.00. He also said he has everything that came with the watch when the man walked out the dealers door, but the box was written on by his daughter he said around 1973 when she was about 5yrs old.

Thats all the info I have right now. I asked Paul to call the guy to let me come take high resolution pics of the watch and get all the information I can off of it..so just waiting to hear back from him now.

Wow, that has a great story behind it. If he has all the documents for it, and it turns out to be real, then

genevewatches · 2 October 2012, 06:04 AM

Box/Papers and everything else PLUS original sales receipt!!!.......Coly How!

mjclark32 · 2 October 2012, 06:12 AM

Following this thread, hope it al, checks out

MoBe · 2 October 2012, 06:30 AM

I wonder if we`re going to find out if this watch is the real deal?

77T · 2 October 2012, 08:57 AM

Looks like a version IV dial (aka Mark IV) but the purchase date lines up with earlier dial production. These were first made in 1967 but sold to COMEX - then opened up to the public in 1968.

It is possible a version II or III dialed SD was sold in 1968 - and then later on (maybe during service) the dial was switched with a MArk IV.

Some of the early SD dials would fade from black to brown and that was seen as a defect back then. Rolex would update the SD's dial if customers agreed. That is how a legit DR SD could end up with a newer dial. And how a DR SD tropical got so rare.

Getting better pics and the serial # would help sort this out better.

26 September 2012, 08:47 AM	#1
ftgokie "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Shawn Location: Fort Gibson Watch: 2T Submariner Posts: 270	Is this a legit Rolex? A friend of mine called me and said he found a Rolex he is considering buying. He did not tell me how much the asking price is, but my friend works off shore oil rigs and has 7 Rolex watches already. He asked me to post this on here to find out if its its possibly real or not. I am assuming it is real because he said the owner bought it brand new and said he will meet him at a Rolex dealer to verify its authenticity, or have it sent to ROlex to verify its authenticity....he said the owner has the original box and paperwork for the watch, even the original sales reciept. I dont know anything about Rolex watches for the most part so I will let you guys have a go at it Shawn Attached Images

26 September 2012, 01:24 PM	#3
T-Rip "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Tom Location: Victorville CA Watch: Rolex DSSD 116660 Posts: 3,189	If its real it could be worth 15-20+ K Very rare if its real __________________ T-Rip Formally known as Haydendillon Rolex: DSSD 116660, 16622 PLATTY

26 September 2012, 09:07 PM	#6
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Should that watch have case back engravings? __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

27 September 2012, 07:53 AM	#12
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	need better pics these are often faked __________________ watches many

2 October 2012, 06:12 AM	#21
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	Following this thread, hope it al, checks out __________________

26 September 2012, 08:54 AM	#2
rolexgolfer Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA Posts: 220	Buy that ASAP that is a red script sub! Worth about 7-10k

26 September 2012, 01:27 PM	#4
MoBe "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 6,773	If that`s a real Double Red Sea-Dweller I think you`re looking at a $20-$25k watch. Higher resolution pictures would be better but from what I can see it looks like the real deal,if I`m mistaken I`m sure another more informed member will set the record straight before too long.

26 September 2012, 10:53 PM	#8
Rjwareagle Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Rollins Location: Tifton Watch: 116660 and more Posts: 286	Yes it should. Only a mid 1980's ladies and dwellers should have case back engraving. There are a few very old ones that do also

26 September 2012, 11:05 PM	#9
Chngster "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Melbourne Posts: 48	Can someone explain why double red is so special? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

27 September 2012, 12:10 AM	#10
Watchmutt "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: 116600 Posts: 724	Oh, that would be a great find if it was real. If he buys it, it would be great to see close up pics.

27 September 2012, 12:18 PM	#14
Lt.Arclight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Todd Location: New Jersey Watch: 214270,116300 Posts: 104	Looks real. With the appropriate documentation,it looks like someone found a good one!

27 September 2012, 01:10 PM	#15
waspy1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Jeff Location: Home! Posts: 1,259	You'll need better hi resolution close up pics of the dial and case back for starters. You'll also need good pics of the model number and serial number on the case with the bracelet removed. I wouldn't buy one without really knowing the buyer and having done lots of research. Huge chance of getting fingers burned. You'll need to check that the serial number matches with the dial style for that number range. So much to check. An authorised dealer is unlikely to have a clue other than possibly verify its a genuine Rolex. But since so much of the value of a drsd is in the dial you need to be 100% sure it's all correct.

27 September 2012, 03:02 PM	#17
mmmk604 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Canada Watch: 116610LN Posts: 1,594	Here's some info on it: http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/0012_1.shtml

2 October 2012, 06:04 AM	#20
genevewatches "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: henderson NV Posts: 14	Box/Papers and everything else PLUS original sales receipt!!!.......Coly How!

2 October 2012, 06:30 AM	#22
MoBe "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 6,773	I wonder if we`re going to find out if this watch is the real deal?

2 October 2012, 08:57 AM	#23
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,010	Looks like a version IV dial (aka Mark IV) but the purchase date lines up with earlier dial production. These were first made in 1967 but sold to COMEX - then opened up to the public in 1968. It is possible a version II or III dialed SD was sold in 1968 - and then later on (maybe during service) the dial was switched with a MArk IV. Some of the early SD dials would fade from black to brown and that was seen as a defect back then. Rolex would update the SD's dial if customers agreed. That is how a legit DR SD could end up with a newer dial. And how a DR SD tropical got so rare. Getting better pics and the serial # would help sort this out better. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

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