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ThisIsMe · 2 August 2012, 05:41 PM

Hi, I posted some pics of my new Rolex that my grandfather gave to me in the General Discussion forum, but some posters commented and said that I may be holding a fake Rolex....I do not know much about Rolex and how to spot a fake. Can you guys help me out? I cant take more photos. I did purchase the Rolex Report recently and I did some preliminary research, and so far I didn't find any irregularities. However, when I move my watch, i do hear it winding. Isn't it supposed to wind silently?

Here are the photos:
photobucket.com/rolexitisme

photobucket.com/rolexitisme

djemmtee · 2 August 2012, 05:57 PM

Its Fake...which way to do wind it to set the time?

crowncollection · 2 August 2012, 06:49 PM

It's fake, band is fake, clasp is incorrect.

ThisIsMe · 3 August 2012, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by djemmtee

Its Fake...which way to do wind it to set the time?

counter clockwise to set both the time and date....ugh r u confident that it's a fake? :(

mrbill2mrbill2 · 3 August 2012, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ThisIsMe

counter clockwise to set both the time and date....ugh r u confident that it's a fake? :(

Yes.

djemmtee · 3 August 2012, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ThisIsMe

counter clockwise to set both the time and date....ugh r u confident that it's a fake? :(

A real rolex you will have to go clockwise to set time, date.....CCW is absolutely fake...

ALSO have a look at the dial, the "A" are pointed, for this particular they are supposed to flat on top= wrong font = fake.

Sorry...

mr.president1 · 3 August 2012, 08:05 AM

Looking at the bracelet I feel that the center link is all gold. Can't totally tell by te photos though. DON'T THROW IT AWAY just yet. Have it checked to see if it is real or not by an authorized Rolex Dealer. They will give you the final word. Not these guys. Not to say they are wrong, but verification is the smartest thing for you to get!

If it is a fake, maybe think bout out buying a real one for yourself. Real Rolexes are very great and timeless.

djemmtee · 3 August 2012, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mr.president1

Looking at the bracelet I feel that the center link is all gold. Can't totally tell by te photos though. DON'T THROW IT AWAY just yet. Have it checked to see if it is real or not by an authorized Rolex Dealer. They will give you the final word. Not these guys. Not to say they are wrong, but verification is the smartest thing for you to get!

If it is a fake, maybe think bout out buying a real one for yourself. Real Rolexes are very great and timeless.

Mr. president1....have a closer look at the bracelet, clasp and watch...it is all fake. I'll be willing to be some cash that us savy forum members know much more than your average watch salesman.

BOA · 3 August 2012, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djemmtee

A real rolex you will have to go clockwise to set time, date.....CCW is absolutely fake...

ALSO have a look at the dial, the "A" are pointed, for this particular they are supposed to flat on top= wrong font = fake.

Sorry...

I'm sure this is fake and maybe for all the reasons specified, but there are modern versions of Rolexes that set at least time by going CCW. My Explorer I is a prime example, bought in '93 or '94. Doesn't have a date obviously, but I wouldn't want people to go away from this thread thinking that all Rolexes must set clockwise or it's fake because it's just not true.

djemmtee · 3 August 2012, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BOA

I'm sure this is fake and maybe for all the reasons specified, but there are modern versions of Rolexes that set at least time by going CCW. My Explorer I is a prime example, bought in '93 or '94. Doesn't have a date obviously, but I wouldn't want people to go away from this thread thinking that all Rolexes must set clockwise or it's fake because it's just not true.

My point was for this Dj model it should be cw.

BOA · 3 August 2012, 10:31 AM

I understand. I wasn't contradicting you, only trying to add to the discussion as it's easy to draw conclusions. A while back there was discussion on the whole issue of CW vs. CCW, and it took me a while to figure out that there was nothing wrong with my Explorer. I just didn't want the OP to conclude that the CW test is definitive across the line. I believe I did read that all current Rolex models are CW, but obviously not all the vintage are. A table on the movements would be an interesting and useful resource.

djemmtee · 3 August 2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BOA

I understand. I wasn't contradicting you, only trying to add to the discussion as it's easy to draw conclusions. A while back there was discussion on the whole issue of CW vs. CCW, and it took me a while to figure out that there was nothing wrong with my Explorer. I just didn't want the OP to conclude that the CW test is definitive across the line. I believe I did read that all current Rolex models are CW, but obviously not all the vintage are. A table on the movements would be an interesting and useful resource.

Agreed.

springer · 3 August 2012, 11:56 AM

As others posted, the watch is 100% counterfeit. The coronet on the dial is a dead giveaway.

ThisIsMe · 3 August 2012, 02:33 PM

wow. my parents and i are actually very upset about this. this watch was owned by my grandfather and it was handed down to me when i graduated this May. i dont know how it could be fake. i spoke to my dad for over an hr today about it. my grandfather told my dad that he would eventually give my dad a rolex when he grew up. before my grandfather passed away 3-4 years ago, he finally gave it to my dad, who never wore it. my grandfather said he paid over $9000 for this. my dad thinks it was purchased in the 1980s.

so i dont know if my grandfather was tricked into buying a counterfeit back in the day, or if he just made up the story of buying it for $9000 (highly unlikely). but it is what it is i guess. you guys all sound confident that it's a fake....would there be any point in going to an AD to get their opinion? i dont want to go in there like an idiot with a fake rolex asking them if it's real. that would be embarrassing.

ThisIsMe · 3 August 2012, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djemmtee

A real rolex you will have to go clockwise to set time, date.....CCW is absolutely fake...

ALSO have a look at the dial, the "A" are pointed, for this particular they are supposed to flat on top= wrong font = fake.

Sorry...

i'm looking at my watch right now and the A has a flat top, it's not pointed

also...when i turn the crown clockwise, the minute hand turns counter clockwise. when i turn it counterclockwise, it turns clockwise. and when i do turn it clockwise, the second hand jumps to the 12 o clock position (sometimes)

and i dont see how the coronet on the dial is a "dead giveaway".....could u explain why?

hanybad · 3 August 2012, 03:26 PM

2 tone DateJust price in 1980's from 81-90 range was $1600-$3500 for brand new watches.

Lol-x · 3 August 2012, 04:58 PM

djemmtee · 3 August 2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ThisIsMe

i'm looking at my watch right now and the A has a flat top, it's not pointed

also...when i turn the crown clockwise, the minute hand turns counter clockwise. when i turn it counterclockwise, it turns clockwise. and when i do turn it clockwise, the second hand jumps to the 12 o clock position (sometimes)

and i dont see how the coronet on the dial is a "dead giveaway".....could u explain why?

Have a closer look, the pics you posted on your photobucket have pointy a's...good story but sorry it's fake.

Andrew Borge · 3 August 2012, 06:43 PM

Bye, bye.

MonBK · 3 August 2012, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Borge

Bye, bye.

That's what happens when all your posts are about fakes.

Tools · 4 August 2012, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BOA

I understand. I wasn't contradicting you, only trying to add to the discussion as it's easy to draw conclusions. A while back there was discussion on the whole issue of CW vs. CCW, and it took me a while to figure out that there was nothing wrong with my Explorer. I just didn't want the OP to conclude that the CW test is definitive across the line. I believe I did read that all current Rolex models are CW, but obviously not all the vintage are. A table on the movements would be an interesting and useful resource.

The 3000 (Explorer, Air-Kings etc) and 3035 (DJ's, Subs, etc) movements turned CCW.

Since they were replaced with the more modern 3130/3135 series in the 80's, the Mens movements all turn CW.

Rolex Rolex · 4 August 2012, 03:12 AM

9000 $ for 2 tone day just 1980

....

BOA · 4 August 2012, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

The 3000 (Explorer, Air-Kings etc) and 3035 (DJ's, Subs, etc) movements turned CCW.

Since they were replaced with the more modern 3130/3135 series in the 80's, the Mens movements all turn CW.

Thank you, sir!

cajunron · 5 August 2012, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mr.president1

Looking at the bracelet I feel that the center link is all gold. Can't totally tell by te photos though. DON'T THROW IT AWAY just yet. Have it checked to see if it is real or not by an authorized Rolex Dealer. They will give you the final word. Not these guys. Not to say they are wrong, but verification is the smartest thing for you to get!

If it is a fake, maybe think bout out buying a real one for yourself. Real Rolexes are very great and timeless.

I know this thread has run it's course, but I want to add one more thing about this comment. As far as AD's being more educated than most members of this forum, I would say "not necessarily". AD employee's for the most part are salespeople, whereas the members of this forum are enthusiasts, and passionate about watches. I'm not saying this is ALWAYS the case, just MY experience. Some of the members here are the SINGLE most knowledgeable group of people I have ever known. I would trust their judgement over an AD any day. Just MY opinion. To each his own.

roadcarver · 9 August 2012, 03:03 PM

Good to know!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

The 3000 (Explorer, Air-Kings etc) and 3035 (DJ's, Subs, etc) movements turned CCW.

Since they were replaced with the more modern 3130/3135 series in the 80's, the Mens movements all turn CW.

A.Sharp · 15 October 2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by djemmtee

Mr. president1....have a closer look at the bracelet, clasp and watch...it is all fake. I'll be willing to be some cash that us savy forum members know much more than your average watch salesman.

x2 - but he's coming from the right place.

crowncollection · 15 October 2012, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

The 3000 (Explorer, Air-Kings etc) and 3035 (DJ's, Subs, etc) movements turned CCW.

Since they were replaced with the more modern 3130/3135 series in the 80's, the Mens movements all turn CW.

Perfect explanation tools, rolex has changed over the years

tudorman8276 · 16 October 2012, 12:38 AM

...AMAZING piece of JUNK...COUNTERFEIT.

...what is SPECIAL is the DOUBLE, UPSIDE DOWN, STEELINOX on the left side of the clasp...mercy sakes.

...WORST fake Jubilee band I have ever seen!

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2 August 2012, 05:41 PM	#1
ThisIsMe Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: CA Posts: 16	Is this a fake Datejust? Hi, I posted some pics of my new Rolex that my grandfather gave to me in the General Discussion forum, but some posters commented and said that I may be holding a fake Rolex....I do not know much about Rolex and how to spot a fake. Can you guys help me out? I cant take more photos. I did purchase the Rolex Report recently and I did some preliminary research, and so far I didn't find any irregularities. However, when I move my watch, i do hear it winding. Isn't it supposed to wind silently? Here are the photos: photobucket.com/rolexitisme photobucket.com/rolexitisme

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mr.president1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ohio,UnitedStates Watch: ROLEX OMEGA Posts: 1,458	Looking at the bracelet I feel that the center link is all gold. Can't totally tell by te photos though. DON'T THROW IT AWAY just yet. Have it checked to see if it is real or not by an authorized Rolex Dealer. They will give you the final word. Not these guys. Not to say they are wrong, but verification is the smartest thing for you to get! If it is a fake, maybe think bout out buying a real one for yourself. Real Rolexes are very great and timeless.

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BOA "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Bruce Location: Chicago, IL Watch: Meteorite DD Posts: 2,406	I understand. I wasn't contradicting you, only trying to add to the discussion as it's easy to draw conclusions. A while back there was discussion on the whole issue of CW vs. CCW, and it took me a while to figure out that there was nothing wrong with my Explorer. I just didn't want the OP to conclude that the CW test is definitive across the line. I believe I did read that all current Rolex models are CW, but obviously not all the vintage are. A table on the movements would be an interesting and useful resource.

3 August 2012, 02:33 PM	#14
ThisIsMe Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: CA Posts: 16	wow. my parents and i are actually very upset about this. this watch was owned by my grandfather and it was handed down to me when i graduated this May. i dont know how it could be fake. i spoke to my dad for over an hr today about it. my grandfather told my dad that he would eventually give my dad a rolex when he grew up. before my grandfather passed away 3-4 years ago, he finally gave it to my dad, who never wore it. my grandfather said he paid over $9000 for this. my dad thinks it was purchased in the 1980s. so i dont know if my grandfather was tricked into buying a counterfeit back in the day, or if he just made up the story of buying it for $9000 (highly unlikely). but it is what it is i guess. you guys all sound confident that it's a fake....would there be any point in going to an AD to get their opinion? i dont want to go in there like an idiot with a fake rolex asking them if it's real. that would be embarrassing.

3 August 2012, 03:26 PM	#16
hanybad "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Hany Location: Canada Watch: 116523,116710,5513 Posts: 529	2 tone DateJust price in 1980's from 81-90 range was $1600-$3500 for brand new watches.

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Andrew Borge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Sweden Posts: 22	OP is banned Bye, bye.

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16 October 2012, 12:38 AM	#28
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...just LOOK @ the clasp... ...AMAZING piece of JUNK...COUNTERFEIT. ...what is SPECIAL is the DOUBLE, UPSIDE DOWN, STEELINOX on the left side of the clasp...mercy sakes. ...WORST fake Jubilee band I have ever seen!

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