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Old 30 November 2007, 12:43 AM   #1
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US and European Cars who is the best what do you prefer?

So guys what do you think about european and US cars? what do you prefer in terms of quality looks performance or anything else?
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Old 30 November 2007, 12:56 AM   #2
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Old 30 November 2007, 12:58 AM   #3
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us and european cars

anyone who has seen shows, read magazines and talked to people about cars( and have an objective point of view) would know what is the better car, in every aspect. European or American car??? Honestly, that is the easiest choice you are ever going to make. i would admit, though that American cars in most of the cases are most noticeable in terms of appearance , due to their size.
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Old 30 November 2007, 01:00 AM   #4
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American cars are all I've ever owned. I'd own a European car, but never a Japanese one.
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Old 30 November 2007, 01:01 AM   #5
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Personally speaking i believe that european cars have higher quality and performance. When it comes to beauty that's subjective but i believe that nobody can compete europeans in the automotive market.
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Old 30 November 2007, 01:05 AM   #6
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can anyone who thinks otherwise tell me what is America's match for Ferrari, Porsche, Merc, Buggati, Lambo......the list is endless:):):)
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Old 30 November 2007, 01:07 AM   #7
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Old 30 November 2007, 01:07 AM   #8
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Bugatti veyron that's one of a helluva fast car. 1001 horsepower baby with 16.4 liter engine and 4 turbos. That's a serious machine. Top speed 250mph
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Old 30 November 2007, 01:08 AM   #9
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Mercedes!
I am bit germanised when it comes to cars
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Old 30 November 2007, 01:19 AM   #11
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Are you asking about higher priced cars $30,000 US and above or the lower priced cars? I believe there will be a huge shift between the two.
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East We Are Living With Are Means But The Topic Is American Vs European, And No Price Range Was Mentioned
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Old 30 November 2007, 01:22 AM   #13
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Are you asking about higher priced cars $30,000 US and above or the lower priced cars? I believe there will be a huge shift between the two.
Highly priced and low priced european cars have really high quality. You can buy a really good quality car for 10.000 euro that's around 14.000$
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German cars are always my first choice. I am currently waiting on the redesigned 2009 MB E Class.
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Old 30 November 2007, 01:45 AM   #15
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German cars are always my first choice. I am currently waiting on the redesigned 2009 MB E Class.
Great choice. I 've seen many of them here in greece. It deserves the waiting
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can anyone who thinks otherwise tell me what is America's match for Ferrari, Porsche, Merc, Buggati, Lambo......the list is endless:):):)
Let's see...

World's fastest car:
The Shelby SSC Aero.
SSC announced they broke the speed record for the world's fastest production car with 255.83 mph (411.72 km/h) in West Richland, WA on September 13, 2007. The reported record speed comes from an average of two runs, one in each direction, in accordance with Guinness Book of World Record rules. The first run clocked 257.41 The return trip came up with 254.88 for the previously mentioned average of 256.18 besting Bugatti Veyron's speed by more than 2 mph (3 km/h). The results of this test, verified by Guinness World Records on October 9, 2007, gave the SSC Aero the world's fastest production car title



Let's not forget the Viper!


OR the Saleen S7 Twin Turbo


OR... the Ford GT


Let's not forget the Corvette Z06, which for about 77K USD boasts a 3.4 second 0 to 60 times, a top speed of 200 mph, AND you can drive it to the supermarket and have it as a daily driver!



I can give you more examples if you want to.

Don't get me wrong... I would rather have a European car over an American or Japanese car. I'm a DIE HARD Lamborghini and Jaguar fan myself.
HOWEVER... One has got to give credit where credit is due!
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Neither.....give me a reliabe, dependable and trustworthy Jap import any day!!

Classic example: A Lexus would put virtually most European, British and American cars to shame!!
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Let's see...

World's fastest car:
The Shelby SSC Aero.
SSC announced they broke the speed record for the world's fastest production car with 255.83 mph (411.72 km/h) in West Richland, WA on September 13, 2007. The reported record speed comes from an average of two runs, one in each direction, in accordance with Guinness Book of World Record rules. The first run clocked 257.41 The return trip came up with 254.88 for the previously mentioned average of 256.18 besting Bugatti Veyron's speed by more than 2 mph (3 km/h). The results of this test, verified by Guinness World Records on October 9, 2007, gave the SSC Aero the world's fastest production car title



Let's not forget the Viper!


OR the Saleen S7 Twin Turbo


OR... the Ford GT


Let's not forget the Corvette Z06, which for about 77K USD boasts a 3.4 second 0 to 60 times, a top speed of 200 mph, AND you can drive it to the supermarket and have it as a daily driver!



I can give you more examples if you want to.

Don't get me wrong... I would rather have a European car over an American or Japanese car. I'm a DIE HARD Lamborghini and Jaguar fan myself.
HOWEVER... One has got to give credit where credit is due!

no one denies these cars go fast IN A STRAIGHT line but Americans still have a lot of trouble making cars that go round corners and handle as well as European cars. this is very clearly showed on car shows like Top Gear. the other thing we can notice is the price difference between the comparable cars(in terms of performance). here you can find many examples if you compare a Ferrari with a Corvette. and the really big one is between the Veyron and the SSC Aero. the reason why American cars are so much cheaper than European is because they are made with cheap materials, and you can not compare everyday usage of a Ferrari or Bugatti with a Corvette or some other car from the States. and if i am not wrong in your reply i saw the latest improved version of the Ford GT, which is a limited production, right?? Do you remember what Jerremy Clarkson said, after he sold his Ford GT?? HE NEVER COMPLETED A SINGLE JOURNEY WITH THAT CAR. the list of problems he had with that was endless. what i will admit is that they accelerate fast in a straight line, that is unquestionable, but what about inside technology, stearing, build quality....cars is a lot more than just 0-60. by the way i am also a Lambo fan, from Jaguar i am with the XKR only, but Merc is definitely my no.1
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If you say so... OK.
American Supercars can't handle.

Every single one of the cars posted above by me has better skidpad figures than pretty much any European import.

And cheap materials? I take it you have never seen one of those in person.
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Old 30 November 2007, 03:25 AM   #20
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Old 30 November 2007, 04:08 AM   #21
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no one denies these cars go fast IN A STRAIGHT line but Americans still have a lot of trouble making cars that go round corners and handle as well as European cars. this is very clearly showed on car shows like Top Gear. the other thing we can notice is the price difference between the comparable cars(in terms of performance). here you can find many examples if you compare a Ferrari with a Corvette. and the really big one is between the Veyron and the SSC Aero. the reason why American cars are so much cheaper than European is because they are made with cheap materials, and you can not compare everyday usage of a Ferrari or Bugatti with a Corvette or some other car from the States. and if i am not wrong in your reply i saw the latest improved version of the Ford GT, which is a limited production, right?? Do you remember what Jerremy Clarkson said, after he sold his Ford GT?? HE NEVER COMPLETED A SINGLE JOURNEY WITH THAT CAR. the list of problems he had with that was endless. what i will admit is that they accelerate fast in a straight line, that is unquestionable, but what about inside technology, stearing, build quality....cars is a lot more than just 0-60. by the way i am also a Lambo fan, from Jaguar i am with the XKR only, but Merc is definitely my no.1
These are not all "regular production cars". It's sad if it takes American specialty cars to compete with European regular production cars. $150,000 for a Ford? Now matter how fast or "special" you think it is, it's still A FORD!

I lost faith in American cars when I bought a brand new Corvette in 1994, what a piece of crap. You'll probably say they make them better nowadays - sorry, I don't want to find out if I am lucky this time.

That said, wife and each drive German cars and a Lexus SUV.
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If you say so... OK.
American Supercars can't handle.

Every single one of the cars posted above by me has better skidpad figures than pretty much any European import.

And cheap materials? I take it you have never seen one of those in person.
explain the price difference then if there is no difference in the quality of the materials. which american car can handle like an F430, 911 Turbo or which saloon can go against the S Class???
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These are not all "regular production cars". It's sad if it takes American specialty cars to compete with European regular production cars. $150,000 for a Ford? Now matter how fast or "special" you think it is, it's still A FORD!

I lost faith in American cars when I bought a brand new Corvette in 1994, what a piece of crap. You'll probably say they make them better nowadays - sorry, I don't want to find out if I am lucky this time.

That said, wife and each drive German cars and a Lexus SUV.

i didn't say they are making them better these days, i absolutely agree with everything you said. don't get e wrong
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explain the price difference then if there is no difference in the quality of the materials. which american car can handle like an F430, 911 Turbo or which saloon can go against the S Class???
I think I'm done with this thread. Not a big fan of people showing me their arse. Especially somebody with 7 posts. (and all of them looking for an argument)

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i didn't say they are making them better these days, i absolutely agree with everything you said. don't get e wrong
I quoted the wrong post, I meant to quote SLRDUDE. My post is in reply to his post. Thanks.
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Old 30 November 2007, 06:46 AM   #26
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German cars all the way...

Mercedes in particular....but then I would say that
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Old 30 November 2007, 06:58 AM   #27
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Well, in my garage I have:

2 Japanese cars
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IMO, the best overall value (including styling, price, features, handling, performance, etc...) goes to the Japanese engineered vehicles right now.
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Old 30 November 2007, 07:10 AM   #28
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I say German cars.

Some Japanese brands are the best bet for value *on a new car price.* I've had excellent experiences with Mazda and Toyota (though to be honest these days Toyota is more American than Ford).

If you're willing to buy a car with a few years of wear on it, though, you can pick up some great ones at great prices.
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Old 30 November 2007, 08:53 AM   #29
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I'll take the European cars, preferably German and Italian. They have everything I could ever ask for in a car. Its got the looks, speed, performance, quality, and the brand name!
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