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Foxer55 · 20 November 2012, 12:34 PM

What is the benefit of having a Submariner with a date versus no date? I notice some here favor the no date Sub but a lot of people can't stand a watch without a date. What's up with this?

withthesword · 20 November 2012, 12:38 PM

some folks can live without a date, others can't live without one.
some folks, such as myself, like the date magnifier, while others think it's hideous.
some folks prefer the SEL bracelet of the date model, while others like the lightweight better fit of the HEL bracelet on the non-date.

i think that about covers it?

4vCoupe · 20 November 2012, 12:42 PM

I can honestly say that I use/refer to the date feature on my sub quite a bit. Anytime I have to date a document I check my watch for the date. The cyclops just makes it that much easier to read.

Tools · 20 November 2012, 12:44 PM

Well, in the beginning there was the Sub... then, after much hand wringing and teeth gnashing, there was the Sub Date for those with limited memory capacity..

(there is no such thing as a "no-date")

It's one of those things that "if you gotta ask, you just may not get it"

GradyPhilpott · 20 November 2012, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Well, in the beginning there was the Sub... then, after much hand wringing and teeth gnashing, there was the Sub Date for those with limited memory capacity..

(there is no such thing as a "no-date")

It's one of those things that "if you gotta ask, you just may not get it"

Amen.

sleddog · 20 November 2012, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxer55

What is the benefit of having a Submariner with a date versus no date? I notice some here favor the no date Sub but a lot of people can't stand a watch without a date. What's up with this?

Everyone has their own likes and dislikes...

It's all about options and what's right for you.
Just like a vehicle comes in different colours and options, the Sub comes with, or without a date!

I personally love 'em all!

alanc · 20 November 2012, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxer55

What is the benefit of having a Submariner with a date versus no date? I notice some here favor the no date Sub but a lot of people can't stand a watch without a date. What's up with this?

The benefit of having a date function is that you can check the date with your watch. Some people want this; others who don't, don't buy a sub date. The latter folks value the cleaner (in their view) no-cyclops crystal.

If you don't care either way but are buying to someday flip, get the date. If not, get the one you want.

I'm guessing you can find a dozen earlier threads here on this subject.

Foxer55 · 20 November 2012, 01:02 PM

alanc,

Quote:

If you don't care either way but are buying to someday flip, get the date. If not, get the one you want.

This is sorta the answer I was getting at but thanks all you guys. You made some very memorable contributions.

VICI · 20 November 2012, 01:05 PM

If you have a choice, get with the date feature.

Why not?

It's bound to come in handy more times than not.

nick c · 20 November 2012, 01:10 PM

I like the ND

mmmk604 · 20 November 2012, 01:17 PM

I need the date...

nyyankees · 20 November 2012, 01:29 PM

The date

Thatguy · 20 November 2012, 01:38 PM

Gotta have the date...

kekes7 · 20 November 2012, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxer55

What is the benefit of having a Submariner with a date versus no date? I notice some here favor the no date Sub but a lot of people can't stand a watch without a date. What's up with this?

i dont like the cyclops

brokenchains · 20 November 2012, 01:42 PM

I like the no date because its similar to the original, if I needed a date I would go
with a SD.

financeman · 20 November 2012, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Well, in the beginning there was the Sub... then, after much hand wringing and teeth gnashing, there was the Sub Date for those with limited memory capacity..

(there is no such thing as a "no-date")

It's one of those things that "if you gotta ask, you just may not get it"

But i read on the Internet that it was called a no date submariner so it has to be true. There is no bad info in the net.

warrior · 20 November 2012, 01:46 PM

One of the EASIEST questions to answer IMO on TRF regarding no date vs. date. Simply put...at this level of quality, it's ALL about the looks for me. Not too many people mention the word...but it's the cool and clean SYMMETRY of the No Date that make the watch!! Simply better looking to me. An added bonus is the fact that it's the descendant of the 'original' Submariner. Having a date is the least important factor for me.

sea-dweller · 20 November 2012, 01:46 PM

I bought the ND version first, then bought the date version. I had to have them both.

SUBversive · 20 November 2012, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxer55

What is the benefit of having a Submariner with a date versus no date? I notice some here favor the no date Sub but a lot of people can't stand a watch without a date. What's up with this?

I did some extensive research and can report that one has a date, for those who prefer a date feature on the dial; and one does not have a date and only displays the time.

So to review: one with time and date. One with time feature only.

This research may not apply to vintage pieces. You may need to check the vintage forums on that topic.

Nidal · 20 November 2012, 01:56 PM

I HAVE to comment on this one. The cyclops is a heritage, it really interrupts the flow of the crystal and makes the minute hand reading rather bizarre when it goes under the cyclops. Arguably, the sub date is a better seller than the no date. I DO like the symmetric clean ND.
I'd rather save the 1k and avoid the "pump" on the crystal(cyclops) than to get the date. If they just make it like the Deepsea then it's a different matter. I own a GMT2c for the record and getting a ND sub

wokafu · 20 November 2012, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Well, in the beginning there was the Sub... then, after much hand wringing and teeth gnashing, there was the Sub Date for those with limited memory capacity..

(there is no such thing as a "no-date")

It's one of those things that "if you gotta ask, you just may not get it"

Gator08 · 20 November 2012, 02:06 PM

When I wear my 5513 I am constantly looking for the date, realizing it's not there, and pulling my phone out to check. It can be quite annoying. For an everyday watch, I prefer to have a date feature.

wokafu · 20 November 2012, 02:09 PM

there's solutions to this Date or ND thing....you like the date get the date...you like the date without the cyclop get the SD...you dont like the date at all..get the ND..i use to think i needed the date untill i cant even tell what day it is working like a cow...to me TIME TO GO HOME is much important than day/date..

honitel · 20 November 2012, 02:14 PM

It depends on what a certain person likes. For me, I would prefer the one with dates because I am conscious on dates.

Roselló · 20 November 2012, 02:15 PM

Let's complicate this... Don't forget the almighty Sea Dweller...

ROLEXELOR · 20 November 2012, 02:26 PM

Before when I had the 14060m I was ok without date... now that I have the DSSD I know that I need it for work and many other things.

Regards

z32turbo · 20 November 2012, 02:29 PM

All about personal preference.

TARDIS · 20 November 2012, 02:29 PM

I never cared for the cyclops so I got this one:

Roley · 20 November 2012, 02:36 PM

"SUBMARINER" It's that simple.

honeybear · 20 November 2012, 02:40 PM

I love the symmetry and clean dial of the No Date.

20 November 2012, 12:34 PM	#1
Foxer55 Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wash, DC Posts: 58	What Is the Benefit of Sub Date vs No Date? What is the benefit of having a Submariner with a date versus no date? I notice some here favor the no date Sub but a lot of people can't stand a watch without a date. What's up with this?

20 November 2012, 12:38 PM	#2
withthesword "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Matte Location: Toronto Watch: 16570 Posts: 1,006	some folks can live without a date, others can't live without one. some folks, such as myself, like the date magnifier, while others think it's hideous. some folks prefer the SEL bracelet of the date model, while others like the lightweight better fit of the HEL bracelet on the non-date. i think that about covers it? __________________ Ready. Ready. Hack. My Flickr Photostream Wishlist: 1984 gmt

20 November 2012, 12:44 PM	#4
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Well, in the beginning there was the Sub... then, after much hand wringing and teeth gnashing, there was the Sub Date for those with limited memory capacity.. (there is no such thing as a "no-date") It's one of those things that "if you gotta ask, you just may not get it" __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

20 November 2012, 01:42 PM	#15
brokenchains "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 438	I like the no date because its similar to the original, if I needed a date I would go with a SD. __________________ 116520 White Dial M, 116200 White Index Jubilee, Tudor Tiger Chronograph

20 November 2012, 02:09 PM	#23
wokafu "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Malaysia Watch: SM300+14060M Posts: 2,012	there's solutions to this Date or ND thing....you like the date get the date...you like the date without the cyclop get the SD...you dont like the date at all..get the ND..i use to think i needed the date untill i cant even tell what day it is working like a cow...to me TIME TO GO HOME is much important than day/date.. __________________ 14060M SM300 PAM000 Poljot-BAIKAL G Shock

20 November 2012, 12:42 PM	#3
4vCoupe "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Watch: GMT Master 16750 Posts: 795	I can honestly say that I use/refer to the date feature on my sub quite a bit. Anytime I have to date a document I check my watch for the date. The cyclops just makes it that much easier to read.

20 November 2012, 01:05 PM	#9
VICI "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Gotham City Watch: IG: Mr_Right_NYC Posts: 5,672	If you have a choice, get with the date feature. Why not? It's bound to come in handy more times than not.

20 November 2012, 01:10 PM	#10
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	I like the ND

20 November 2012, 01:17 PM	#11
mmmk604 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Canada Watch: 116610LN Posts: 1,594	I need the date...

20 November 2012, 01:29 PM	#12
nyyankees "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southeastern PA Watch: 1216610 Posts: 2,131	The date

20 November 2012, 01:38 PM	#13
Thatguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Wayne Location: California Watch: Rolex, PAM Posts: 3,302	Gotta have the date...

20 November 2012, 01:46 PM	#17
warrior "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: massachusetts Watch: Explorer Posts: 1,692	One of the EASIEST questions to answer IMO on TRF regarding no date vs. date. Simply put...at this level of quality, it's ALL about the looks for me. Not too many people mention the word...but it's the cool and clean SYMMETRY of the No Date that make the watch!! Simply better looking to me. An added bonus is the fact that it's the descendant of the 'original' Submariner. Having a date is the least important factor for me.

20 November 2012, 01:46 PM	#18
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	I bought the ND version first, then bought the date version. I had to have them both.

20 November 2012, 01:56 PM	#20
Nidal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: USA Watch: SubC LV Posts: 1,821	I HAVE to comment on this one. The cyclops is a heritage, it really interrupts the flow of the crystal and makes the minute hand reading rather bizarre when it goes under the cyclops. Arguably, the sub date is a better seller than the no date. I DO like the symmetric clean ND. I'd rather save the 1k and avoid the "pump" on the crystal(cyclops) than to get the date. If they just make it like the Deepsea then it's a different matter. I own a GMT2c for the record and getting a ND sub

20 November 2012, 02:06 PM	#22
Gator08 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 108	When I wear my 5513 I am constantly looking for the date, realizing it's not there, and pulling my phone out to check. It can be quite annoying. For an everyday watch, I prefer to have a date feature.

20 November 2012, 02:14 PM	#24
honitel Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: Honitel Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 148	It depends on what a certain person likes. For me, I would prefer the one with dates because I am conscious on dates.

20 November 2012, 02:15 PM	#25
Roselló "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SA, Texas. Watch: * { SD & DJ } * Posts: 943	Let's complicate this... Don't forget the almighty Sea Dweller... __________________ ......... All In.

20 November 2012, 02:26 PM	#26
ROLEXELOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Spaniard inRussia Posts: 989	Before when I had the 14060m I was ok without date... now that I have the DSSD I know that I need it for work and many other things. Regards

20 November 2012, 02:29 PM	#27
z32turbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sea Level Watch: Varies Posts: 6,877	All about personal preference. __________________ Instagram @z32turbo

20 November 2012, 02:29 PM	#28
TARDIS "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Queensland, AUST Posts: 2,003	I never cared for the cyclops so I got this one: Attached Images

20 November 2012, 02:36 PM	#29
Roley "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Roland Location: GMT -4:00 Today Watch: Enthusiast Posts: 874	"SUBMARINER" It's that simple.

20 November 2012, 02:40 PM	#30
honeybear "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Watch: Vacheron Overseas Posts: 297	I love the symmetry and clean dial of the No Date. __________________ Patek Philippe Calatrava 5119J; Vacheron Constantin Overseas; Jaeger-LeCoultre Grande Reverso Duo; Rolex Submariner 114060; Baume and Mercier Hampton Annual Calendar; Tudor Heritage Black Bay.

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