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submariner123 · 7 January 2013, 06:55 AM

Rolex have created a problem here. The new one obviously has a better bracelet and case. However, the new blue is absolutely horrible. I can't get used to it. The blue on the old model is a thousand times better. Therefore I would pick the 16613.

mkmk · 7 January 2013, 07:34 AM

Love the old. But you can not go wrong with either.

jbhaire · 8 January 2013, 05:27 PM

I had the same issue. I went old 16613 as well because of the prismatic, starbust, iridescent quality of the blue on the dial. I am still happy I didn't go 116613 yet I managed to have buyer’s remorse all the same. When I went 16613 I didn't know enough about the revision history and I ended up buying a 2002. I knew enough to purchase a Rolex with the gold through the clasp but it wasn't until after having my Submariner for a couple weeks that I learned of the year to year changes. Had I known more while shopping I would have bought a 2004 or later with “no holes in case” or a post 2007 “no holes in case” and “Inner Bezel Engraving”.

blcblc · 9 January 2013, 12:41 AM

old

Like To Watch · 9 January 2013, 03:01 AM

I have the older. It's up to you.

Passionata · 10 January 2013, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Like To Watch

I have the older. It's up to you.

CMT · 12 January 2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by niner niner seven

solid solid photos

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Great photos!

Thanks guys.

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Originally Posted by Like To Watch

I have the older. It's up to you.

subdatefan · 9 January 2013, 02:31 PM

new one

Miamipawnsab · 10 January 2013, 01:33 AM

Old one not a big fan of the new dial

Wrist Watcher · 10 January 2013, 01:35 AM

I definitely prefer the blue of the older model. JMO.

bp1983 · 10 January 2013, 04:06 AM

anyone think the price of the old subs will rise due to the new ones colour being not as great
or do you think rolex will smarten up and just release the new sub with the old colour? that makes sense to me, if they dont ever do that I figure the old ones would be a great watch to keep forever or resale for possible profit oneday
but if everyove loves the old ones colour so much i am sure rolex will release that same blue again, dont see why they changed it in the first place,,,,any thoughts?

Mystro · 10 January 2013, 04:08 AM

I dont think Rolex is gonna change the color back. Once Rolex makes a product, they stick to it. I know the old blue is a classic and a rising star as far as I am concerned.

Miamipawnsab · 10 January 2013, 04:12 AM

You can pick up a z-d blue for 5500-6000 with all the links good condition

bp1983 · 11 January 2013, 10:14 AM

QUICK QUESTION

has anyone tried both watches??? is the new one a lottt bigger like in pics doesnt look too much bigger,,,since the faces are the same its just the lugs,,bands the same is it a substantial difference,,,im buying the old one and havent seen it in person seen the new one and the blue isnt as bad as the pics on line to be honest but it didnt seem so big or anything just hoping the old one isnt too small lol

WHats the weight difference?

thanks guys

Les Paul · 10 March 2013, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bp1983

QUICK QUESTION

has anyone tried both watches??? is the new one a lottt bigger like in pics doesnt look too much bigger,,,since the faces are the same its just the lugs,,bands the same is it a substantial difference,,,im buying the old one and havent seen it in person seen the new one and the blue isnt as bad as the pics on line to be honest but it didnt seem so big or anything just hoping the old one isnt too small lol

WHats the weight difference?

thanks guys

I just spent 2 months trying to decide. I love the new bracelet, side by side the 116613 is clearly bigger and a little heavier. The new look appears a bit more rugged to me. It is a nice piece worthy of Rolex. However, when side by side the old color sells itself, the new blue looks... "toy-ish".

For me, once side-by-side OLD

is the better looking watch. Just no comparing that blue.

Watchdog · 11 January 2013, 12:16 PM

The new one feels more substantial; however, the new blue is not nearly as captivating as the old, traditional blue.

Watchdog · 11 January 2013, 12:16 PM

And yes I have tried both.

Sublover2166 · 11 January 2013, 01:23 PM

I have the old blue, circa 1996 model. Love the color, just about the perfect shade pleasing to the eye. Bought it new and will probably keep it forever!

Bassplayer · 11 January 2013, 02:09 PM

Older one is a classic and must have for any collection - personally not a fan of the new look. Enjoy your choice though

AK797 · 12 January 2013, 05:31 AM

Id buy the new one and swap in the old dial for the perfect tt sub.

wantonebad · 12 January 2013, 06:12 AM

16613 hands down!!

patb · 12 January 2013, 07:25 AM

Congratulations on going with the old brilliant blue dial.
Could it be thet Rolex could not match the old color in ceramic?

dssxxxx · 12 January 2013, 09:30 AM

Anyone want to buy my old, so I can buy new?????

Rock · 12 January 2013, 10:28 AM

Back when I first noticed Rolex it was the 16613 that absolutely blew my socks off.
Still does. Every time!
I already have No.3 planned but if there is a No. 4 it will be a 16613.
I like to see others going for the 116613 however as it should mean more 16613s to choose from when I am ready.

skprd13 · 9 March 2013, 04:16 PM

It seems like the new ones have a lighter shade of blue. The older ones seem more bluesy, richer blue. Thoughts?

robie · 9 March 2013, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by skprd13

It seems like the new ones have a lighter shade of blue. The older ones seem more bluesy, richer blue. Thoughts?

I agree,both watches have +/- but i prefer the old one.

Jsan20 · 9 March 2013, 11:38 PM

I just ordered a new one so that gets my vote.

SWISSAHOLICS · 10 March 2013, 02:39 AM

The old one by far!!! I sold my old and and bought the new one

Hated myself. So I sold the new style and again bought the old style but BNIB and am so happy

Now I have the new one but in black dial

Confused yet?

Bottom line: Blue on the new is not as nice as the blue on the old

yld2rob · 10 March 2013, 04:09 AM

New for me. But I have all new subs

Piloto · 10 March 2013, 04:25 AM

Old!

I know it's human nature to be resistant to change, but after looking the new one over many times in the local ADs, I simply don't like the color. Period. If they would have kept the old color, it would be a no-brainer upgrade. Now, my 16613 really is a classic.

10 January 2013, 01:33 AM	#9
Miamipawnsab "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Sergio Location: Miami Watch: Lv,gmtc,ym,dayton Posts: 260	Old one not a big fan of the new dial Attached Images

11 January 2013, 02:09 PM	#19
Bassplayer "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: CA Watch: Wife says too many Posts: 348	Older one is a classic and must have for any collection - personally not a fan of the new look. Enjoy your choice though __________________ ------------------------------------------------------ " I prefer to drink; not drive " John Alec Entwistle

12 January 2013, 06:12 AM	#21
wantonebad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Watch: 126600, 116500LN Posts: 12,849	16613 hands down!! __________________ "I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego"

12 January 2013, 10:28 AM	#24
Rock 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Rocky Location: Australia Watch: Grail:Bluesy Posts: 17,850	Back when I first noticed Rolex it was the 16613 that absolutely blew my socks off. Still does. Every time! I already have No.3 planned but if there is a No. 4 it will be a 16613. I like to see others going for the 116613 however as it should mean more 16613s to choose from when I am ready. __________________ Cellini 4112. Sub 14060M. DJ 16233. Rotherhams 1847 Pocket-watch. Foundation Member of 'Horologists Anonymous' "Hi, I'm Rocky, and I'm a Horologist..."

10 March 2013, 02:39 AM	#28
SWISSAHOLICS "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Here! Watch: Rolex Posts: 4,366	The old one by far!!! I sold my old and and bought the new one Hated myself. So I sold the new style and again bought the old style but BNIB and am so happy Now I have the new one but in black dial Confused yet? Bottom line: Blue on the new is not as nice as the blue on the old __________________ 16610LN \| 16613LB \| 16710 Pepsi \| 118238 \| 116500 (White) \| 116500 (Black) \| 116710BLNR \| 116610LV "The one thing I fear most is time; time waits for no one and leaves no options."

7 January 2013, 06:55 AM	#1
submariner123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Thomas Location: England Watch: 116610LN Posts: 643	Rolex have created a problem here. The new one obviously has a better bracelet and case. However, the new blue is absolutely horrible. I can't get used to it. The blue on the old model is a thousand times better. Therefore I would pick the 16613.

7 January 2013, 07:34 AM	#2
mkmk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: So. California Posts: 451	Love the old. But you can not go wrong with either.

8 January 2013, 05:27 PM	#3
jbhaire "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 1	I had the same issue. I went old 16613 as well because of the prismatic, starbust, iridescent quality of the blue on the dial. I am still happy I didn't go 116613 yet I managed to have buyer’s remorse all the same. When I went 16613 I didn't know enough about the revision history and I ended up buying a 2002. I knew enough to purchase a Rolex with the gold through the clasp but it wasn't until after having my Submariner for a couple weeks that I learned of the year to year changes. Had I known more while shopping I would have bought a 2004 or later with “no holes in case” or a post 2007 “no holes in case” and “Inner Bezel Engraving”.

9 January 2013, 12:41 AM	#4
blcblc "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 2,300	old

9 January 2013, 03:01 AM	#5
Like To Watch "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,196	I have the older. It's up to you.

9 January 2013, 02:31 PM	#8
subdatefan "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: new hampshire Posts: 41	new one

10 January 2013, 01:35 AM	#10
Wrist Watcher 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: USA Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 1,447	I definitely prefer the blue of the older model. JMO.

10 January 2013, 04:06 AM	#11
bp1983 Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 118	anyone think the price of the old subs will rise due to the new ones colour being not as great or do you think rolex will smarten up and just release the new sub with the old colour? that makes sense to me, if they dont ever do that I figure the old ones would be a great watch to keep forever or resale for possible profit oneday but if everyove loves the old ones colour so much i am sure rolex will release that same blue again, dont see why they changed it in the first place,,,,any thoughts?

10 January 2013, 04:08 AM	#12
Mystro 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: The Mystro ;) Location: Central Pa. Posts: 15,515	I dont think Rolex is gonna change the color back. Once Rolex makes a product, they stick to it. I know the old blue is a classic and a rising star as far as I am concerned.

10 January 2013, 04:12 AM	#13
Miamipawnsab "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Sergio Location: Miami Watch: Lv,gmtc,ym,dayton Posts: 260	You can pick up a z-d blue for 5500-6000 with all the links good condition

11 January 2013, 10:14 AM	#14
bp1983 Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 118	QUICK QUESTION has anyone tried both watches??? is the new one a lottt bigger like in pics doesnt look too much bigger,,,since the faces are the same its just the lugs,,bands the same is it a substantial difference,,,im buying the old one and havent seen it in person seen the new one and the blue isnt as bad as the pics on line to be honest but it didnt seem so big or anything just hoping the old one isnt too small lol WHats the weight difference? thanks guys

11 January 2013, 12:16 PM	#16
Watchdog "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Junkyard Dog Location: The Doghouse Watch: I can't tell time Posts: 6,822	The new one feels more substantial; however, the new blue is not nearly as captivating as the old, traditional blue.

11 January 2013, 01:23 PM	#18
Sublover2166 Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: John Location: Manassas,Virginia Watch: Ol'Bluesy & Hulk Posts: 2,871	I have the old blue, circa 1996 model. Love the color, just about the perfect shade pleasing to the eye. Bought it new and will probably keep it forever!

12 January 2013, 05:31 AM	#20
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Id buy the new one and swap in the old dial for the perfect tt sub.

12 January 2013, 07:25 AM	#22
patb "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Pat Location: North East Watch: YG Yachtmaster Posts: 202	Congratulations on going with the old brilliant blue dial. Could it be thet Rolex could not match the old color in ceramic?

12 January 2013, 09:30 AM	#23
dssxxxx "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NJ & FL Posts: 168	Anyone want to buy my old, so I can buy new?????

9 March 2013, 04:16 PM	#25
skprd13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Tom Location: Kauai Watch: 1675-1680-16750 Posts: 3,346	It seems like the new ones have a lighter shade of blue. The older ones seem more bluesy, richer blue. Thoughts?

9 March 2013, 11:38 PM	#27
Jsan20 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: James Location: Michigan Watch: 116613LB Posts: 861	I just ordered a new one so that gets my vote.

10 March 2013, 04:09 AM	#29
yld2rob "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Rob Location: Penna Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,658	New for me. But I have all new subs __________________ Rolex Sub-126610LV Rolex Sub- 126613LB Rolex GMT BLRO 126710 Rolex GMT BLNR Rolex Datejust 16220

10 March 2013, 04:25 AM	#30
Piloto "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: My overnight bag Watch: 16613 & 116710BLNR Posts: 572	Old! I know it's human nature to be resistant to change, but after looking the new one over many times in the local ADs, I simply don't like the color. Period. If they would have kept the old color, it would be a no-brainer upgrade. Now, my 16613 really is a classic.

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