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MYK · 4 December 2012, 01:15 AM

A friend of mine just offered me his Extra Large Frank Muller Casa Blanca for a trade for my Explorer 216570. I've always admired his FM but know little about it's value. It's in great shape and all box/papers are there.

What would make this a good (or sweeter to me) deal?

Any cash either way, or just a straight deal?

beshannon · 4 December 2012, 01:19 AM

I would not do that deal at all.

Sorry not much help, you have to decide which watch you would rather own and wear.

MYK · 4 December 2012, 01:19 AM

It's this one.

http://www.thefinestwatches.com/extr...419-20440.html

kilyung · 4 December 2012, 01:22 AM

You don't say which FM Casablanca model but assuming its a large men's like the 8880CDT retail is $10.100USD. You'd be lucky to get $5k used so I'd definitely want cash back my way. So depending on condition I'd need at least, $2kUSD my way to do this trade. IMO, I'd keep the 216570.

kilyung · 4 December 2012, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MYK

It's this one.

http://www.thefinestwatches.com/extr...419-20440.html

FMs usually only get 50% or less used. So for that one $5.5k would be my ceiling. So minimum $1500 cash back for your 216570

shafran · 4 December 2012, 01:24 AM

Which casablanca is it? I know Mullers well, I have had at least 10 different ones and still have a long island.

shafran · 4 December 2012, 01:26 AM

I agree , you should probably get cash with the deal. I think more like 1000-1500

jcclx1 · 4 December 2012, 01:27 AM

Value wise not a bad deal. Watch wise, I'd hang onto Explorer II. I'm a little partial though! :)

HRV · 4 December 2012, 01:29 AM

keep the Exp

Rogdogg · 4 December 2012, 01:46 AM

The Frank Muller dial and watch does absolutely nothing for me. I'd stick with the Polar Explorer. That's just my 2 cents anyway. While I know nothing about Frank Muller watches or their workings I just think it looks like they didn't try on the face of it. But each to their own. If you like it, go for it. You are the one who has to wear it.

MYK · 4 December 2012, 02:04 AM

It's the 9880 CDT, white with date and comes with an extra tan leather strap.

Mephist · 4 December 2012, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rogdogg

The Frank Muller dial and watch does absolutely nothing for me. I'd stick with the Polar Explorer. That's just my 2 cents anyway. While I know nothing about Frank Muller watches or their workings I just think it looks like they didn't try on the face of it. But each to their own. If you like it, go for it. You are the one who has to wear it.

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BCNJ · 4 December 2012, 02:24 AM

NO way. don't do it.

AH0RSEY · 4 December 2012, 02:43 AM

noway, not today, tomorrow not ever!!!!

Watchflair · 4 December 2012, 02:45 AM

I would pass. Had a FM for a couple months about 7 years ago and haven't wanted another since. There's really nothing special about them. The Explorer II has such history and notoriety as a staple of the Rolex line up.

MYK · 4 December 2012, 02:49 AM

I like it!

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daunwaun · 4 December 2012, 02:52 AM

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jay1988 · 4 December 2012, 02:54 AM

The only two FM's I've encountered both had big timing issues. One had to be sent back 3 times. However I acknowledge that 2 isn't a very big sample.

I wouldn't do it even if they kept perfect time. FM's are too bold to be dress watches if you ask me and too dressy for casual wear. I also dislike the shape of most of them.

Keep the Explorer II.

Kingair · 4 December 2012, 02:55 AM

Don't like the shape of the FM . . . sorry FM owners . . .

And that's the reason why they make different models of watches . . . ;-)

HAGOne

beshannon · 4 December 2012, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MYK

I like it!

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If you like it then it does not matter what anyone else here says.

With all due respect, that watch is hideous and does not even look real. Those numbers look drawn on with a magic marker.

The Explorer has everything going for it in a watch, history, innovation and quality.

Joey_V · 4 December 2012, 03:55 AM

No way man.

MYK · 4 December 2012, 04:07 AM

Thank you all for the feedback, unfortunately it's too late to cure this infected WIS who has almost zero self control.

Traded him with the FM and he added a 16570 noir for some cash from my end.

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Rocco22 · 4 December 2012, 04:46 AM

Keep the explorer.up to you though.just noticed you did it.if you like it then thats all that matters.enjoy.

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kilyung · 4 December 2012, 04:58 AM

Not a bad ending

mannyv11 · 4 December 2012, 05:00 AM

Congrats glad you are happy with the deal. I personally would have kept the EXPII

77T · 4 December 2012, 05:08 AM

Hope you enjoy it. Is my Worldtime right, you and your friend started this at dinner time and completed by 11?

No

involved hopefully

sierra11b · 4 December 2012, 05:16 AM

My friend would have to take it off my cold dead wrist.

Psmith · 4 December 2012, 05:56 AM

Not a bad trade in the end

Wllnv19 · 4 December 2012, 06:25 AM

I would have kept the rolex. But if your happy congrats!

4 December 2012, 01:15 AM	#1
MYK 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Mohammed Location: Kuwait Watch: @kuwaitinglist Posts: 1,622	Rolex Explorer II for Casablanca Extra Large? A friend of mine just offered me his Extra Large Frank Muller Casa Blanca for a trade for my Explorer 216570. I've always admired his FM but know little about it's value. It's in great shape and all box/papers are there. What would make this a good (or sweeter to me) deal? Any cash either way, or just a straight deal?

4 December 2012, 01:19 AM	#2
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	I would not do that deal at all. Sorry not much help, you have to decide which watch you would rather own and wear. __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

4 December 2012, 01:24 AM	#6
shafran "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: woodmere,ny Posts: 582	trade Which casablanca is it? I know Mullers well, I have had at least 10 different ones and still have a long island.

4 December 2012, 01:26 AM	#7
shafran "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: woodmere,ny Posts: 582	trade I agree , you should probably get cash with the deal. I think more like 1000-1500

4 December 2012, 01:27 AM	#8
jcclx1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Atlanta Watch: 116710 BLNR Posts: 174	Value wise not a bad deal. Watch wise, I'd hang onto Explorer II. I'm a little partial though! :) Attached Images __________________ Rolex Explorer II 216570(gone) Rolex GMT Master II 116710 BLNR Omega Speedmaster If Columbus had turned back, no one would have blamed him. Of course, no one would have remembered him either Unknown

4 December 2012, 01:22 AM	#4
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	You don't say which FM Casablanca model but assuming its a large men's like the 8880CDT retail is $10.100USD. You'd be lucky to get $5k used so I'd definitely want cash back my way. So depending on condition I'd need at least, $2kUSD my way to do this trade. IMO, I'd keep the 216570.

4 December 2012, 01:29 AM	#9
HRV "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Andrew Location: johannesburg Watch: ROLEX Posts: 4,407	keep the Exp

4 December 2012, 01:46 AM	#10
Rogdogg 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Bangkok Posts: 6,124	The Frank Muller dial and watch does absolutely nothing for me. I'd stick with the Polar Explorer. That's just my 2 cents anyway. While I know nothing about Frank Muller watches or their workings I just think it looks like they didn't try on the face of it. But each to their own. If you like it, go for it. You are the one who has to wear it.

4 December 2012, 02:04 AM	#11
MYK 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Mohammed Location: Kuwait Watch: @kuwaitinglist Posts: 1,622	It's the 9880 CDT, white with date and comes with an extra tan leather strap.

4 December 2012, 02:24 AM	#13
BCNJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Brendan Location: NJ Watch: Pepsi/LVC/DJII Posts: 446	NO way. don't do it.

4 December 2012, 02:43 AM	#14
AH0RSEY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: Harrogate Watch: OUT !!!! Posts: 829	noway, not today, tomorrow not ever!!!! __________________ Current rotation; AP15500ST grey, White Daytona 116500, WG Black/Red Daytona 116509, White and Black EXP 42, GMT2C.... too many previous it makes my head hurt thinking about them.

4 December 2012, 02:45 AM	#15
Watchflair 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Jim Location: Westchester NY Watch: Love em all Posts: 5,920	I would pass. Had a FM for a couple months about 7 years ago and haven't wanted another since. There's really nothing special about them. The Explorer II has such history and notoriety as a staple of the Rolex line up. __________________ Remember what matters. Value everyday

4 December 2012, 02:49 AM	#16
MYK 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Mohammed Location: Kuwait Watch: @kuwaitinglist Posts: 1,622	I like it! What if we throw this into the mix? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

4 December 2012, 02:54 AM	#18
jay1988 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Midlands Posts: 1,515	The only two FM's I've encountered both had big timing issues. One had to be sent back 3 times. However I acknowledge that 2 isn't a very big sample. I wouldn't do it even if they kept perfect time. FM's are too bold to be dress watches if you ask me and too dressy for casual wear. I also dislike the shape of most of them. Keep the Explorer II.

4 December 2012, 02:55 AM	#19
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	Don't like the shape of the FM . . . sorry FM owners . . . And that's the reason why they make different models of watches . . . ;-) HAGOne

4 December 2012, 03:55 AM	#21
Joey_V "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Joey Location: Dallas, TX Watch: SS Sub 16610 M Posts: 3,824	No way man. __________________ Current Rotation: Rolex Submariner Date (M) - 1/08, Rolex Milgauss GV (V) - 2/10, Rolex SS Black Daytona (V) - 6/10, Rolex GMTIIC (G) - 5/11, TAG Heuer Silverstone (286/1860) - 1/2015 Former-watches: Omega PO/2535.80/2254, TAG Carrera/F1x2/Monaco, Panerai 312K/292L Wish List: Panerai 270/505, Rolex SMURF, Rolex RG Daytona, Rolex DSSD

4 December 2012, 04:07 AM	#22
MYK 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Mohammed Location: Kuwait Watch: @kuwaitinglist Posts: 1,622	Thank you all for the feedback, unfortunately it's too late to cure this infected WIS who has almost zero self control. Traded him with the FM and he added a 16570 noir for some cash from my end. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

4 December 2012, 04:46 AM	#23
Rocco22 Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mass/Vegas/disney Watch: Hulk,114060,14060 Posts: 929	Keep the explorer.up to you though.just noticed you did it.if you like it then thats all that matters.enjoy.

4 December 2012, 04:49 AM	#24
MYK 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Mohammed Location: Kuwait Watch: @kuwaitinglist Posts: 1,622	Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

4 December 2012, 04:58 AM	#25
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Not a bad ending

4 December 2012, 05:00 AM	#26
mannyv11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Manny Location: MA Watch: DD,Sub,GMT,Daytona Posts: 4,512	Congrats glad you are happy with the deal. I personally would have kept the EXPII

4 December 2012, 05:08 AM	#27
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,024	Hope you enjoy it. Is my Worldtime right, you and your friend started this at dinner time and completed by 11? No involved hopefully __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

4 December 2012, 05:16 AM	#28
sierra11b "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Eric Location: California Watch: MkXVIII, 3570.50 Posts: 1,966	My friend would have to take it off my cold dead wrist.

4 December 2012, 05:56 AM	#29
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	Not a bad trade in the end __________________

4 December 2012, 06:25 AM	#30
Wllnv19 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Willie Location: Parkland,Fl. Posts: 4,829	I would have kept the rolex. But if your happy congrats!

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