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r4gs · 4 December 2012, 10:13 AM

Had a couple of comments when I posted pics of two old Rolex watch boxes I have that the following is fake. Would appreciate additional details on how one can tell. I took new shots with as much macro detail as I can manage:

Chopped54 · 4 December 2012, 10:31 AM

Can you really not tell that is fake? Rolex= Perfection, even in their presentation. In the small pics on an iPhone I can see they are far from perfect.

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crowncollection · 4 December 2012, 10:57 AM

it does not look good, unless that is damage in the corner of the box in the photo, crude finish imho, what material is the cushion and cover made out of, how thick and soft is it ? rather thick and soft or more thin and paper like, i am still not 100% sure with those photos only to go on. Is the wood lacquered also ?

r4gs · 4 December 2012, 11:05 AM

^Yes the edges of each piece of wood is not cut accurately (looks to be hand-sawed with rough and uneven edges) and the wooden areas are not lacquered. The inner cushion in and of itself is literally a piece of yellow foam wrapped in a stitched cover, unsure what fabric exactly, and the cushion cover is thin but soft and feels rougher than felt.

If I'm also looking closely enough, the print on the outer cardboard box is dot matrix which is more modern technology no? Older print presses would have a different print finish. Also, there is no space between ROLEX and S.A. on the back of the box.

crowncollection · 4 December 2012, 11:12 AM

does not look good as i originally said, I think it's fake with the added info

Chopped54 · 4 December 2012, 11:13 AM

Here is my gen box, HUGE difference.
Perfect radius 45* corners, high gloss lacquer, suede pillow and cloth.

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r4gs · 4 December 2012, 11:25 AM

^Thanks for the pic.

Chopped54 · 4 December 2012, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r4gs

^Thanks for the pic.

No problem, and sorry if my first post sounded harsh. I thought you were a troll at first till I saw your other posts and nice collection!

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r4gs · 4 December 2012, 11:43 AM

^No worries, and thank you for the compliments. I read TRF daily out of passion for these mechanical afflictions of the wrist and seldom post unless I'm feeling incredibly inclined to.

TimeToGo · 4 December 2012, 07:27 PM

Seen on Ebay all the time, unfortunately, they will not take them out.

See this one that sold recently for $87...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Oyster...p2047675.l2557

bayerische · 4 December 2012, 07:47 PM

Yup OP, that's a fake box.

r4gs · 4 December 2012, 08:39 PM

Learning something new everyday. Thanks gents.

Trabant Dave · 5 December 2012, 08:05 PM

That Ebay seller seems to be a serial 'vendor'; he's passed two or three of these in the last 14 days; now I've done a bit of fishing, and these fakes sell for around $6 per unit plus postage; let's assume a total of $20 a piece.......

He's at least doubling - possibly trebling his 'investment'...

I'm in the wrong business!

Dave

armypilot · 6 December 2012, 02:02 AM

Saw these fake boxes all the time in Iraq. The flea market vendors would include them with the fakes watches that they were selling for about $20.00 to $30.00. You can tell they are fakes from a mile away. Poor construction, poor materails, no finish at all on the wood components, paper thin pillow flaps, etc, etc, etc!

4 December 2012, 10:13 AM	#1
r4gs "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Matt Location: Singapore Posts: 115	Fake Rolex box? Had a couple of comments when I posted pics of two old Rolex watch boxes I have that the following is fake. Would appreciate additional details on how one can tell. I took new shots with as much macro detail as I can manage: Attached Images

4 December 2012, 10:31 AM	#2
Chopped54 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: DFW Watch: 116520, 116610lv, Posts: 432	Can you really not tell that is fake? Rolex= Perfection, even in their presentation. In the small pics on an iPhone I can see they are far from perfect. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ “Wealth is of the heart and mind, not the pocket”

4 December 2012, 10:57 AM	#3
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	it does not look good, unless that is damage in the corner of the box in the photo, crude finish imho, what material is the cushion and cover made out of, how thick and soft is it ? rather thick and soft or more thin and paper like, i am still not 100% sure with those photos only to go on. Is the wood lacquered also ? __________________ watches many

4 December 2012, 11:12 AM	#5
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	does not look good as i originally said, I think it's fake with the added info __________________ watches many

4 December 2012, 11:13 AM	#6
Chopped54 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: DFW Watch: 116520, 116610lv, Posts: 432	Here is my gen box, HUGE difference. Perfect radius 45* corners, high gloss lacquer, suede pillow and cloth. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ “Wealth is of the heart and mind, not the pocket”

4 December 2012, 11:05 AM	#4
r4gs "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Matt Location: Singapore Posts: 115	^Yes the edges of each piece of wood is not cut accurately (looks to be hand-sawed with rough and uneven edges) and the wooden areas are not lacquered. The inner cushion in and of itself is literally a piece of yellow foam wrapped in a stitched cover, unsure what fabric exactly, and the cushion cover is thin but soft and feels rougher than felt. If I'm also looking closely enough, the print on the outer cardboard box is dot matrix which is more modern technology no? Older print presses would have a different print finish. Also, there is no space between ROLEX and S.A. on the back of the box.

4 December 2012, 11:25 AM	#7
r4gs "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Matt Location: Singapore Posts: 115	^Thanks for the pic.

4 December 2012, 11:43 AM	#9
r4gs "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Matt Location: Singapore Posts: 115	^No worries, and thank you for the compliments. I read TRF daily out of passion for these mechanical afflictions of the wrist and seldom post unless I'm feeling incredibly inclined to.

4 December 2012, 07:27 PM	#10
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,735	Seen on Ebay all the time, unfortunately, they will not take them out. See this one that sold recently for $87... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Oyster...p2047675.l2557 Attached Images

4 December 2012, 07:47 PM	#11
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Yup OP, that's a fake box. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

4 December 2012, 08:39 PM	#12
r4gs "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Matt Location: Singapore Posts: 115	Learning something new everyday. Thanks gents.

5 December 2012, 08:05 PM	#13
Trabant Dave Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: London Posts: 35	That Ebay seller seems to be a serial 'vendor'; he's passed two or three of these in the last 14 days; now I've done a bit of fishing, and these fakes sell for around $6 per unit plus postage; let's assume a total of $20 a piece....... He's at least doubling - possibly trebling his 'investment'... I'm in the wrong business! Dave

6 December 2012, 02:02 AM	#14
armypilot "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: John David Location: Buckeye, AZ Watch: 1980 Rolex 16750 Posts: 256	Saw these fake boxes all the time in Iraq. The flea market vendors would include them with the fakes watches that they were selling for about $20.00 to $30.00. You can tell they are fakes from a mile away. Poor construction, poor materails, no finish at all on the wood components, paper thin pillow flaps, etc, etc, etc! __________________ J.D.

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