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Old 31 December 2012, 08:02 PM   #1
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Italian aftermarket bracelets?

Has anyone seen a review on an Italian made aftermarket bracelet, or have one?
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Old 31 December 2012, 08:10 PM   #2
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Talking about aftermarket anything is not really welcome here. You might want to try another forum. Have a Happy New Year..
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Old 31 December 2012, 08:15 PM   #3
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Has anyone seen a review on an Italian made aftermarket bracelet, or have one?
Myself don't own one but as long as its not got any Rolex branding trying to make out its real then myself have not got any problem with them.Many are quite good quality and at one time many genuine gold Rolex bracelets were Italian made.
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Old 31 December 2012, 08:20 PM   #4
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Talking about aftermarket anything is not really welcome here. You might want to try another forum. Have a Happy New Year..
There is nothing wrong with anything aftermarket only if that aftermarket item is made to deceive its real.And today with Rolex now refusing to repair some vintage movements because they say lack of parts.So the only option is to get that part made or if available use a aftermarket part and if you fit a NATO or a rubber strap that's a aftermarket part too is it not.
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Old 31 December 2012, 11:03 PM   #5
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I wonder what Rolex would charge if they made genuine NATOs. Something tells me that you wouldn't find them on eBay for $10.
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Old 31 December 2012, 11:31 PM   #6
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Rolex do sell nato's, however, the quality is terrible for the £50 charged by St. James. I purchased one and returned it as the quality was no different to something from eBay for £8.

I also agree that there is nothing wrong with after market providing it not presenting its self as something it's not, ie with Rolex branding for example, it's my opinion that Rolex over charge everything they sell and restrict you purchasing parts and spares to inflate prices.
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Old 1 January 2013, 12:07 AM   #7
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Rolex do sell nato's, however, the quality is terrible for the £50 charged by St. James. I purchased one and returned it as the quality was no different to something from eBay for £8.

I also agree that there is nothing wrong with after market providing it not presenting its self as something it's not, ie with Rolex branding for example, it's my opinion that Rolex over charge everything they sell and restrict you purchasing parts and spares to inflate prices.
Have to agree on the nato from Rolex very very overpriced and better quality ones can be found much cheaper.But with watch parts today for any high end brand, you pay around 70%-75% for the name the rest for the part.
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Old 1 January 2013, 12:32 AM   #8
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you pay around 70%-75% for the name the rest for the part.
Just like the watch, itself!!!
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Old 1 January 2013, 12:36 AM   #9
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There are some "Italian" rubber straps that are quite nice. Not sure if they're made in Italy...or if the Rubber is sourced from Italy...or if it's just a marketing ploy.

I've had several and eventually "upgraded" to an Isofrane brand strap. LOVE it.
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Old 1 January 2013, 12:38 AM   #10
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Talking about aftermarket anything is not really welcome here. You might want to try another forum. Have a Happy New Year..
What's wrong with discussing aftermarket?

Between different straps, PVD coating, diamond bezels, etc. aftermarket components are discussed constantly around here.
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Old 1 January 2013, 12:51 AM   #11
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Talking about aftermarket anything is not really welcome here. You might want to try another forum. Have a Happy New Year..
Nothing wrong with discussing aftermarket IMO.
Replicas and fakes are a different story, maybe you misunderstood the OP?
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Old 1 January 2013, 12:51 AM   #12
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Why this been moved to the "Watch Out" section?

After market does not mean fake...and there is no indication that's what the OP meant...nor did the thread go that direction.
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Old 1 January 2013, 02:55 AM   #13
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Why this been moved to the "Watch Out" section?

After market does not mean fake...and there is no indication that's what the OP meant...nor did the thread go that direction.
It is prolly the better place based on where it will eventually go
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Old 1 January 2013, 03:16 AM   #14
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Why this been moved to the "Watch Out" section?

After market does not mean fake...and there is no indication that's what the OP meant...nor did the thread go that direction.

It's just one of those mod judgement calls.

It was posted in the Rolex section so that was wrong to start with.

Everyone in the Open section is drunk.

..... so I stuck it here.

Who knows, perhaps discussion of "aftermarket" stuff (especially those which tend to have Rolex markings) would end up in the Watchout section anyway.

We can always still appreciate the quality of any solid gold bracelets at "sensible" prices and specifically WITHOUT Rolex markings so as to not deceive.

Fake bracelets can be mercilessly criticised, and who better qualified to do so than the mainstays here?
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Old 1 January 2013, 03:46 AM   #15
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It's just one of those mod judgement calls.

It was posted in the Rolex section so that was wrong to start with.

Everyone in the Open section is drunk.

..... so I stuck it here.

Who knows, perhaps discussion of "aftermarket" stuff (especially those which tend to have Rolex markings) would end up in the Watchout section anyway.

We can always still appreciate the quality of any solid gold bracelets at "sensible" prices and specifically WITHOUT Rolex markings so as to not deceive.

Fake bracelets can be mercilessly criticised, and who better qualified to do so than the mainstays here?
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Old 1 January 2013, 03:55 AM   #16
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Would you have cheap china tyres on your Porsche?

As much as the tires are the link at keep your car in the track, the bracelet keeps your watch from falling from your wrist.

I would not compromise in both cases with cheaper alternatives to the real deal.

I am talking about metal bracelets here and springbars, not about Natos in a reasonable quality.
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Old 1 January 2013, 04:47 AM   #17
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Yes indeed, I am not asking about fakes or replicas. I saw an Italian made 18 k Jubilee bracelet for sale for around $400. I wanted to know if anyone had any experience with any of these. As far as "aftermarket not welcome", are you kidding!?
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Yes indeed, I am not asking about fakes or replicas. I saw an Italian made 18 k Jubilee bracelet for sale for around $400. I wanted to know if anyone had any experience with any of these. As far as "aftermarket not welcome", are you kidding!?
If you provide a link to the bracelet we can comment.

$400 for an 18ct gold bracelet at 60-80g is wrong. There's a couple of grand worth of gold at least in such a thing.
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Old 1 January 2013, 05:06 AM   #19
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Thanks, that's what I thought.
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Old 1 January 2013, 05:09 AM   #20
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FYI Here is the link. What do you think? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aftermarket-...item2326ac7976
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FYI Here is the link. What do you think? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aftermarket-...item2326ac7976
Looks stretched to me.

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It's a TT bracelet not 18ct. There would be a hundred or two worth of gold in the links if not capped, so a selling price of $345 seems alright, I guess.
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Nancy says some of the Italian gold isn't so bad.
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Nancy says some of the Italian gold isn't so bad.


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It's a TT bracelet not 18ct. There would be a hundred or two worth of gold in the links if not capped, so a selling price of $345 seems alright, I guess.
Hmmm, at that price point Paul I'd say it was plated.

Eventually the buyer will find out.
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Gold filled at that price I think. Good luck
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Thanks for the heads up!
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