Trusted TRF Sellers: Question

[mcorliss]

Trusted sellers on Rolex Forum, what percentage of watches being sold here are gray market versus sourced from a US AD?

Also, what are the risks of gray market items as it pertains to US RSC acceptance of the warranty?

I am sure it's been asked a thousand times, but please indulge my request for info? Thank you, kindly.

[Pep04]

Not sure about the first question, but you will NOT have a problem with RSC if you purchase from one of the trusted sellers.

If the watches was procured from an AD outside of the US, it will not affect the warranty.

[thomaspp]

1. I'd guess most are GM, but most trusted sellers will answer all qs honestly

2. None as far as I'm aware

3. Cheers

[djemmtee]

The warranties are transferrable so I dont think you will have any problems with any of the trusted sellers here.

[mcorliss]

Reason I ask is that I almost bought a new YachtMaster Blue from a seller on eBay who wouldn't really answer the warranty question. He specialize in gray market Rolex and has stellar feedback (100%) for over 1,000 transaction over the 13 years he has been on eBay.

Based on the aforementioned, it certainly called into question the source of our Trusted TRF Sellers watches.

[thomaspp]

Originally Posted by mcorliss

Reason I ask is that I almost bought a new YachtMaster Blue from a seller on eBay who wouldn't really answer the warranty question. He specialize in gray market Rolex and has stellar feedback (100%) for over 1,000 transaction over the 13 years he has been on eBay.

Based on the aforementioned, it certainly called into question the source of our Trusted TRF Sellers watches.

Don't go to the bay for highend watches! PM davidsw. He had a couple blue YM for sale a while back. Good luck.

[djemmtee]

Exactly. I would never buy a high end watch on fleabay...

As others have said and will agree with me fully, just send DavidSW a pm, I'm sure he can get you what you need at a great price.

[77T]

Originally Posted by mcorliss

Reason I ask is that I almost bought a new YachtMaster Blue from a seller on eBay who wouldn't really answer the warranty question. He specialize in gray market Rolex and has stellar feedback (100%) for over 1,000 transaction over the 13 years he has been on eBay.

Based on the aforementioned, it certainly called into question the source of our Trusted TRF Sellers watches.

No, it does not...you can easily tell by looking at the card and Country Code.

The warranty is Global so there is nothing to worry about. My guess from this question is that you want to buy a BNIB, LNIB or 1 y.o. watch? Otherwise the warranty question is moot.

[mcorliss]

Originally Posted by thomaspp

Don't go to the bay for highend watches! PM davidsw. He had a couple blue YM for sale a while back. Good luck.

I have already been in touch with him but he won't have another for a while, but date uncertain. I have been asking my Local AD for a preferred price and they have yet to get back to me after purchasing both a Sub-C and Dayton in the last 2 week from them. I find that even with those (at MSRP) it has been a real chore to "sell my own self a watch"...just like trying to buy a high end car!!

With mediocre follow-up it's no wonder they are the ones selling them, and we are the ones in the position to buy. What ever happened to good salesmanship?

It would be really nice if every high-end purchase (houses, cars, watches) did not have to be such a struggle.

[77T]

I misread - if it's a new blue dialed YM you want, then my closest AD has one right now and I will be there tomorrow.

[thomaspp]

Originally Posted by mcorliss

I have already been in touch with him but he won't have another for a while, but date uncertain. I have been asking my Local AD for a preferred price and they have yet to get back to me after purchasing both a Sub-C and Dayton in the last 2 week from them. I find that even with those (at MSRP) it has been a real chore to "sell my own self a watch"...just like trying to buy a high end car!!

With mediocre follow-up it's no wonder they are the ones selling them, and we are the ones in the position to buy. What ever happened to good salesmanship?

It would be really nice if every high-end purchase (houses, cars, watches) did not have to be such a struggle.

Agreed! A local ad here calls me frequently and davidsw has also taken care of me, but overall bad service. There are a few other trusted sellers here - check who's who section. Good luck.

[brandxbrand]

Originally Posted by mcorliss

i have been asking my local ad for a preferred price and they have yet to get back to me after purchasing both a sub-c and dayton in the last 2 week from them.

orly??

[mcorliss]

Originally Posted by 77T

I misread - if it's a new blue dialed YM you want, then my closest AD has one right now and I will be there tomorrow.

Every AD around me also has one in the case too, but in MA the sales tax is 6.25%, whereas in the neighboring state and via Internet, your saving upwards of $650-700 for starters and then discount, which some claim is not possible because "Rolex is so strict these days" and then "this watch is one of the newest models and so hard to get." Helloooo... everybody has one locally and 3 listed on eBay, plus it seems like most TRFers dislike the YachtMaster from what I have gathered, so I'm guessing a discount can be had since that model is not exactly setting the Rolex world on fire.

Can you do me a favor and ask what you local AD can offer it for? Would be a good reference point for my own edification. I already know DavidSW can do it for less and understand he is a solid dude, which is where I Probably get it from...if he can also get me one of those nifty RolexRolexRolex polishing clothes as part of the deal. You listening...David???

It seems the polishing cloth is the "new" Daytona. Rolex won't provide them and everyone wants one!

Thanks guys!!!

[thomaspp]

Originally Posted by mcorliss

Every AD around me also has one in the case too, but in MA the sales tax is 6.25%, whereas in the neighboring state and via Internet, your saving upwards of $650-700 for starters and then discount, which some claim is not possible because "Rolex is so strict these days" and then "this watch is one of the newest models and so hard to get." Helloooo... everybody has one locally and 3 listed on eBay, plus it seems like most TRFers dislike the YachtMaster from what I have gathered, so I'm guessing a discount can be had since that model is not exactly setting the Rolex world on fire.

Can you do me a favor and ask what you local AD can offer it for? Would be a good reference point for my own edification. I already know DavidSW can do it for less and understand he is a solid dude, which is where I Probably get it from...if he can also get me one of those nifty RolexRolexRolex polishing clothes as part of the deal. You listening...David???

Thanks guys!!!

I was quoted around 11200 before taxes at an ad in Miami.

[mcorliss]

Originally Posted by brandxbrand

orly??

"orly???"

Lost me...what's "orly"?

Let me clarify: The salesman is the one who said to me, "Let me talk with the owner and get back to you with a preferred price."

Several e-mails and several phone calls later, still no info, other than "I have not been able speak with him"... Over the course of a week???

When a product virtually sells itself, you really don't need "sales people" so much as a warm body to take a credit card and peel off stickers. Would love to know the profit margin and salesman's commission for selling me the Daytona. Anyone know???

[thomaspp]

Originally Posted by mcorliss

Every AD around me also has one in the case too, but in MA the sales tax is 6.25%, whereas in the neighboring state and via Internet, your saving upwards of $650-700 for starters and then discount, which some claim is not possible because "Rolex is so strict these days" and then "this watch is one of the newest models and so hard to get." Helloooo... everybody has one locally and 3 listed on eBay, plus it seems like most TRFers dislike the YachtMaster from what I have gathered, so I'm guessing a discount can be had since that model is not exactly setting the Rolex world on fire.

Can you do me a favor and ask what you local AD can offer it for? Would be a good reference point for my own edification. I already know DavidSW can do it for less and understand he is a solid dude, which is where I Probably get it from...if he can also get me one of those nifty RolexRolexRolex polishing clothes as part of the deal. You listening...David???

Thanks guys!!!

I was quoted around 11700 before taxes at an ad in Miami.

[mcorliss]

Originally Posted by thomaspp

I was quoted around 11700 before taxes at an ad in Miami.

For Realz??? They want a $150 premium when like every AD has one in the case?

[77T]

Here's the one I mentioned. List price is 11,550

[hainguyenhn]

Originally Posted by mcorliss

Trusted sellers on Rolex Forum, what percentage of watches being sold here are gray market versus sourced from a US AD?

Also, what are the risks of gray market items as it pertains to US RSC acceptance of the warranty?

I am sure it's been asked a thousand times, but please indulge my request for info? Thank you, kindly.

I read somewhere that one of the risk is that either you or gray market seller don't know if the serial number of the watch is clean unless it has been serviced by RSC. Only RSC can check if serial number is clean.

[newbieincali]

Miami is known for crazy crap. I remember car dealers selling the new mustangs for 5k over sticker price

[tudorluv]

I imported a tudor date day with "remaining balance" of warranty on a BNIB watch. Still covered in stickers, brand new except it was purchased from overseas AD and sold to the aftermarket dealer I purchased it from. After one month, a piece of lint emerged under the crystal from the day window! Sent to Rolex USA NYC for service under warranty, right? Rolex informed me the warranty was no good because I did not purchase from an authorized dealer. Rolex however removed the lint without charge "compliments of Rolex" and sent me a travel pouch and polish cloth too. Your mileage may vary...