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motohead · 30 January 2008, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bama

What is the best source for purchasing a Tudor here in the US? Also, are there fake Tudors out there? It would seem if that would be less of a problem.

I would love to know why Tudor sells in Europe, Asia and even Canada but not here in the US.

bagel · 30 January 2008, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bama

What is the best source for purchasing a Tudor here in the US? Also, are there fake Tudors out there? It would seem if that would be less of a problem.

There are also fake tudor out there esp when looking for those vintage sport models, need to be careful.

Gedanken · 6 January 2008, 01:14 PM

Paul's analogy is the most appropriate. While Beetles aren't built to the same standards as Bentleys, Tudors are built to the same standard as Rolexes, the real difference being that the movements are re-engineered ETAs instead of Rolex movements.

If we do want to use a car analogy, I'd go more along the lines of Ferrari and Dino. The Dinos did not have the Cavaliano Rampante, but they were still pieces of Ferrari engineering and fine cars in their own right, and the 308, 328 and 288 GTO evolved from the Dino 206/246.

Taking another angle on it, Martin Amis might have been Kingsley's kid, but even if he wasn't he's still a good author.

Gedanken · 6 January 2008, 01:56 PM

Oh yeah, forgot my Big Block shot:

Dan Pierce · 6 January 2008, 02:26 PM

This Tudor Chrono "big block" is a Rolex case, crown, and bracelet with a Rolex modified Valjoux 7750 movement. No more, no less.
dP

TARDIS · 6 January 2008, 02:42 PM

Here in Australia, I see Tudor is being advertised more now.

Magazines like 'Mens health" and similar show a full color page of the Hydronaut sans the MSRP of course!

How does it compare to the Submariner in $?

Steve

Spark · 6 January 2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

This Tudor Chrono "big block" is a Rolex case, crown, and bracelet with a Rolex modified Valjoux 7750 movement. No more, no less.
dP

Which is basically what the 6263/6265 Rolex Daytona is other than the Valjoux movement is a different caliber

Earl Camembert · 29 January 2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gedanken

You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

That may not be true. When I was at Rolex USA the place was packed at 12:00 and empty at 13:30.

East Bay Rider · 6 January 2008, 02:47 PM

I do not believe that anyone should look down on Tudor watches. I am glad to have a full blown Rolex but I would not hesitate to buy a Tudor watch, especially a vintage. I have a deep appreciation for their chronometer and am especially fond of its date feature, which Rolex does not have.
For a car reference, I think of it as the Plymouth to the Chrysler. Very very similar but with a few less options. And there is nothing wrong with getting such a comparable watch at a Tudor price.

nimm12 · 6 January 2008, 05:27 PM

the Tudor movement is NOT Rolex caliber... pls make sure u understand this... other than that i have nothing against Tudor

Stratton · 6 January 2008, 08:21 PM

Does anyone know what Rolex do to the ETA movements?

Obsession · 6 January 2008, 09:03 PM

Not worth, even to buy a vintage ROLEX with price of a Tudor is worth, Rolex and Tudor are 2 different watches with 2 different movements,look,case and everything...

vukotab · 6 January 2008, 11:00 PM

Tudors are made by Rolex,Tudors have an Oyster case by Rolex and Tudor`s quality is almost at the same level an Rolex`s.The difference is within the Oyster case.Tudors are powered with ETA or Valjoux movements that are not COSC certified.There`s nothing wrong with that,those are remarkable movements,especially Valjoux 7750 in Chronograph model.Tudor is positioned BELOW Rolex in company`s hierarchy,so it`s prices are far more reasonable then prices of Rolex.Some people consider Tudor as poor man`s Rolex.I own one of the vintage Tudor models(model very similar to OP Date) and I`m very happy with it`s accuracy.And looks,of course.

padi56 · 7 January 2008, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by vukotab

Tudors are made by Rolex,Tudors have an Oyster case by Rolex and Tudor`s quality is almost at the same level an Rolex`s.The difference is within the Oyster case.Tudors are powered with ETA or Valjoux movements that are not COSC certified.There`s nothing wrong with that,those are remarkable movements,especially Valjoux 7750 in Chronograph model.Tudor is positioned BELOW Rolex in company`s hierarchy,so it`s prices are far more reasonable then prices of Rolex.Some people consider Tudor as poor man`s Rolex.I own one of the vintage Tudor models(model very similar to OP Date) and I`m very happy with it`s accuracy.And looks,of course.

Well looking proportionally with the movments submitted to the Swiss COSC and Rolex is the top.The most first time passes are from ETA Valjoux first the Cal 7750 then the ETA 2993-2.Rolex make very fine long lasting accurate movements but so do quite a few others.

TARDIS · 6 January 2008, 11:17 PM

Like I said before..... what is the price difference?

Troy · 7 January 2008, 05:29 AM

Mine is my avatar 7928 Tudor submariner

robbyrolex · 7 January 2008, 06:15 AM

they don't sell them here in the USA, is it possible to buy them from another country and have them shipped here?

I like the new models, the ETA 2824 used in the mens line is a good movement I had a 2824 powered watch and it kept great time.

padi56 · 7 January 2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by robbyrolex

I like the new models, the ETA 2824 used in the mens line is a good movement I had a 2824 powered watch and it kept great time.

Quite true and the 2824 comes in 5 grades the top grade is chronometer version 2824-2T.The one thats used in the Tudor
but not tested simply because of the COSC test fee, it costs around £100+ per bare movement.

BlackpoolRolexCoaste · 7 January 2008, 08:08 PM

Although the Tudor range are fine timepieces I think the majority of people who buy them actually hanker after a Rolex and from experience with other (non watch) brands I know you should ALWAYS go for what your heart really desires.
If you really desire a Tudor than go for it, you will not be dissapointed but if it is a Rolex you secretly desire, my advice is to wait a little longer.
Although the initial purchase may be higher you will actually lose less money that if you "trade up" at a later date.
Believe me I've dropped £0000's doing similar tricks with hi-fi!

bagel · 7 January 2008, 11:22 PM

I like tudor very much especially those vintage sports models .....

The layout of the dials of most of these sports models are just so unique, eye-catching and special such as the monte carlo series and the sub with square markers ....

My favorite are the monte carlo series ....

mcoccia · 27 January 2008, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bagel

I like tudor very much especially those vintage sports models .....

The layout of the dials of most of these sports models are just so unique, eye-catching and special such as the monte carlo series and the sub with square markers ....

My favorite are the monte carlo series ....

Hi

I have a Tudor Chrono with the same dial as that shown in the top left corner. Purchased new with guarantee documents in 1983. The bezel was originally blue resin but this was replaced with a bezel identical to the centre watch by Rolex Australia after dropping the watch in approximately 1985. Would anyone like to comment about a likely value of this watch. Unfortunately I can't supply any pictures as the watch is now being serviced.

bagel · 28 January 2008, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mcoccia

Hi

I have a Tudor Chrono with the same dial as that shown in the top left corner. Purchased new with guarantee documents in 1983. The bezel was originally blue resin but this was replaced with a bezel identical to the centre watch by Rolex Australia after dropping the watch in approximately 1985. Would anyone like to comment about a likely value of this watch. Unfortunately I can't supply any pictures as the watch is now being serviced.

Do you mean the monte carlo with 2 registers on the dial and blue rotable bezel ? The ref no. is 7169/0. The was one sold in an auction last Nov at around USD 160K.

mcoccia · 29 January 2008, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bagel

Do you mean the monte carlo with 2 registers on the dial and blue rotable bezel ? The ref no. is 7169/0. The was one sold in an auction last Nov at around USD 160K.

I wish. No I think mine is a 9421 and similar to the one shown in the top left hand side of the photo but with a SS bezel. I noticed there are a couple of monte carlo's of US ebay at the moment. Starting price is 21K and 28.5KUS.

TARDIS · 7 January 2008, 11:37 PM

I give up.

T5AUS · 29 January 2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TARDIS

I give up.

Steve, since no one else has said anything I will try. The early Tudors, say the late 50,s early 60's are almost on a par now with a lot of Rolex subs. The one pictured at the top is a 1962 model which sold recently on the fleabay for $6100 U.S.
The later 1970's models with the diamond hands sell from $2,000 U.S. to $5000 U.S., depending on colour of the dial (blue are favourite) and if it has a date or not and of course condition. The rough one in the photo below sold a couple of weeks ago on fleabay for $ 2,400 U.S.!
I know nothing about the Chronos or the current Tudors.

Stratton · 29 January 2008, 12:57 PM

The question was answered on page 3 of this thread regarding the cost of Tudors. The Tudor Chronograph Oyster Dates, Submariners and Datejusts (all with Rolex markings on the case back and a Rolex crown), sold in the '80s and '90s, cost about a third of the price of the equivalent Rolex so really were fantastic value.

Gedanken · 7 January 2008, 11:39 PM

What are you giving up on, Steve?

GoldenBear · 29 January 2008, 08:22 AM

He keeps asking for the price difference between the two...Nobody has answered.

Stratton · 8 January 2008, 03:55 AM

The Tudor Oysters including the Submariners and Chronographs were fantastic value costing about a third of the equivalent Rolex.

ratae1950 · 29 January 2008, 03:53 AM

I own one of each but wear the Tudor daily. Being form merry olde England I like the name reference to its historic origins. One problem I find with the Tudor is that I am constantly be accosted by beautiful women when I wear it...................

6 January 2008, 01:14 PM	#3
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	Paul's analogy is the most appropriate. While Beetles aren't built to the same standards as Bentleys, Tudors are built to the same standard as Rolexes, the real difference being that the movements are re-engineered ETAs instead of Rolex movements. If we do want to use a car analogy, I'd go more along the lines of Ferrari and Dino. The Dinos did not have the Cavaliano Rampante, but they were still pieces of Ferrari engineering and fine cars in their own right, and the 308, 328 and 288 GTO evolved from the Dino 206/246. Taking another angle on it, Martin Amis might have been Kingsley's kid, but even if he wasn't he's still a good author. __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

6 January 2008, 01:56 PM	#4
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	Oh yeah, forgot my Big Block shot: __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

6 January 2008, 02:26 PM	#5
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,217	This Tudor Chrono "big block" is a Rolex case, crown, and bracelet with a Rolex modified Valjoux 7750 movement. No more, no less. dP Attached Images __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

6 January 2008, 02:47 PM	#9
East Bay Rider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: East Bay RI Watch: GMT-II 16710LN Posts: 12,073	I do not believe that anyone should look down on Tudor watches. I am glad to have a full blown Rolex but I would not hesitate to buy a Tudor watch, especially a vintage. I have a deep appreciation for their chronometer and am especially fond of its date feature, which Rolex does not have. For a car reference, I think of it as the Plymouth to the Chrysler. Very very similar but with a few less options. And there is nothing wrong with getting such a comparable watch at a Tudor price. __________________ I bought a cheap watch from the crazy man Floating down canal It doesn't use numbers or moving hands It always just says "now" Now you may be thinking that I was had But this watch is never wrong And if I have trouble the warranty said Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On J. Buffett Instagram: eastbayrider46

7 January 2008, 06:15 AM	#17
robbyrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Phoenix Posts: 203	I'd by one but they don't sell them here in the USA, is it possible to buy them from another country and have them shipped here? I like the new models, the ETA 2824 used in the mens line is a good movement I had a 2824 powered watch and it kept great time.

6 January 2008, 02:42 PM	#6
TARDIS "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Queensland, AUST Posts: 2,003	Here in Australia, I see Tudor is being advertised more now. Magazines like 'Mens health" and similar show a full color page of the Hydronaut sans the MSRP of course! How does it compare to the Submariner in $? Steve

6 January 2008, 05:27 PM	#10
nimm12 Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: singapore Posts: 101	the Tudor movement is NOT Rolex caliber... pls make sure u understand this... other than that i have nothing against Tudor

6 January 2008, 08:21 PM	#11
Stratton "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: UK Posts: 429	Does anyone know what Rolex do to the ETA movements?

6 January 2008, 09:03 PM	#12
Obsession Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Aykun Location: Istanbul/Turkey Watch: Tissot Seastar Posts: 804	Not worth, even to buy a vintage ROLEX with price of a Tudor is worth, Rolex and Tudor are 2 different watches with 2 different movements,look,case and everything...

6 January 2008, 11:00 PM	#13
vukotab "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Vukota Brajovi Location: Belgrade,Serbia Watch: ing movies! Posts: 3,812	Tudors are made by Rolex,Tudors have an Oyster case by Rolex and Tudor`s quality is almost at the same level an Rolex`s.The difference is within the Oyster case.Tudors are powered with ETA or Valjoux movements that are not COSC certified.There`s nothing wrong with that,those are remarkable movements,especially Valjoux 7750 in Chronograph model.Tudor is positioned BELOW Rolex in company`s hierarchy,so it`s prices are far more reasonable then prices of Rolex.Some people consider Tudor as poor man`s Rolex.I own one of the vintage Tudor models(model very similar to OP Date) and I`m very happy with it`s accuracy.And looks,of course.

6 January 2008, 11:17 PM	#15
TARDIS "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Queensland, AUST Posts: 2,003	Like I said before..... what is the price difference?

7 January 2008, 05:29 AM	#16
Troy Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Troy Location: Calgary, Alberta Watch: Tudor Sub. 7928 Posts: 1,275	Mine is my avatar 7928 Tudor submariner

7 January 2008, 08:08 PM	#19
BlackpoolRolexCoaste Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: John T Location: Benidorm, Spain Watch: Blue sub & SS Sub Posts: 226	Although the Tudor range are fine timepieces I think the majority of people who buy them actually hanker after a Rolex and from experience with other (non watch) brands I know you should ALWAYS go for what your heart really desires. If you really desire a Tudor than go for it, you will not be dissapointed but if it is a Rolex you secretly desire, my advice is to wait a little longer. Although the initial purchase may be higher you will actually lose less money that if you "trade up" at a later date. Believe me I've dropped £0000's doing similar tricks with hi-fi!

7 January 2008, 11:22 PM	#20
bagel "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 605	I like tudor very much especially those vintage sports models ..... The layout of the dials of most of these sports models are just so unique, eye-catching and special such as the monte carlo series and the sub with square markers .... My favorite are the monte carlo series ....

7 January 2008, 11:37 PM	#24
TARDIS "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Queensland, AUST Posts: 2,003	I give up.

29 January 2008, 12:57 PM	#26
Stratton "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: UK Posts: 429	The question was answered on page 3 of this thread regarding the cost of Tudors. The Tudor Chronograph Oyster Dates, Submariners and Datejusts (all with Rolex markings on the case back and a Rolex crown), sold in the '80s and '90s, cost about a third of the price of the equivalent Rolex so really were fantastic value.

7 January 2008, 11:39 PM	#27
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	What are you giving up on, Steve? __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

29 January 2008, 08:22 AM	#28
GoldenBear "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Francisco Watch: Submariner Posts: 2,480	He keeps asking for the price difference between the two...Nobody has answered. __________________ ____________________________________________ Rolex Blue TT Submariner Rolex SS Submariner Breitling Emergency Mission They are just watches, wear 'em. ____________________________________________

8 January 2008, 03:55 AM	#29
Stratton "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: UK Posts: 429	The Tudor Oysters including the Submariners and Chronographs were fantastic value costing about a third of the equivalent Rolex.

29 January 2008, 03:53 AM	#30
ratae1950 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Cambridge Ma Posts: 2,331	I own one of each but wear the Tudor daily. Being form merry olde England I like the name reference to its historic origins. One problem I find with the Tudor is that I am constantly be accosted by beautiful women when I wear it...................

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