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Nairn1980 · 7 April 2013, 11:20 PM

Has anyone read details of the above car?

Just noticed its open for orders....

185hp from its 2.0TDI engine, 380nm torque..... Yet 67mpg combined and only £20 annual road tax!!! Also standard fit now are front and rear sensors, colour screen DAB, bi-xenon lights, Bluetooth, 18" alloys, adaptive cruise etc (all normally options on German cars)

Looks like a cracking car to me and could be tempted to order one for Mrs Nairn1980!!

TswaneNguni · 7 April 2013, 11:42 PM

That's 136kw and 380Nm.It will fly !!! AND on fumes too !! I think practically looking at 13-14km/liter From 2.0l the powerband will be narrow,but in the powerband it will have enormous power.

Nairn1980 · 7 April 2013, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

That's 136kw and 380Nm.It will fly !!! AND on fumes too !! I think practically looking at 13-14km/liter From 2.0l the powerband will be narrow,but in the powerband it will have enormous power.

My thoughts exactly

East Bay Rider · 8 April 2013, 12:17 AM

That's 248hp! 280ft/lbs

padi56 · 8 April 2013, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nairn1980

Has anyone read details of the above car?

Just noticed its open for orders....

185hp from its 2.0TDI engine, 380nm torque..... Yet 67mpg combined and only £20 annual road tax!!! Also standard fit now are front and rear sensors, colour screen DAB, bi-xenon lights, Bluetooth, 18" alloys, adaptive cruise etc (all normally options on German cars)

Looks like a cracking car to me and could be tempted to order one for Mrs Nairn1980!!

Great little car but that road tax offer is just for one year after you pay normal price.

Sarajevo · 8 April 2013, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Great little car but that road tax offer is just for one year after you pay normal price.

No it is band B so stays at that level (subject to Govt increases).

http://www.which.co.uk/cars/coming-s...agen-golf-gtd/

Nairn1980 · 8 April 2013, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarajevo

No it is band B so stays at that level (subject to Govt increases).

http://www.which.co.uk/cars/coming-s...agen-golf-gtd/

Yep 109 co2 pretty amazing eh?

Ck8 · 8 April 2013, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nairn1980

Has anyone read details of the above car?

Just noticed its open for orders....

185hp from its 2.0TDI engine, 380nm torque..... Yet 67mpg combined and only £20 annual road tax!!! Also standard fit now are front and rear sensors, colour screen DAB, bi-xenon lights, Bluetooth, 18" alloys, adaptive cruise etc (all normally options on German cars)

Looks like a cracking car to me and could be tempted to order one for Mrs Nairn1980!!

I have a 2.0 DCI Laguna and I don't pay £20 road tax. I think its £170. Is it cheaper in Scotland?

Sarajevo · 8 April 2013, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ck8

I have a 2.0 DCI Laguna and I don't pay £20 road tax. I think its £170. Is it cheaper in Scotland?

It is based on emissions, not engine size.

I have a 109g/km VW diesel and it was very nice paying £20 to renew my road tax this year, instead of the usual £175 or so.

Nairn1980 · 8 April 2013, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ck8

I have a 2.0 DCI Laguna and I don't pay £20 road tax. I think its £170. Is it cheaper in Scotland?

Haha I wish it was cheaper in Scotland!!
Volkswagen never used to be but now it's pretty cutting edge in terms of emissions etc....even the ne mk7 GTI with 220bhp is only £120 road tax and that's a petrol!

Top marks VW!

watchf · 8 April 2013, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

That's 136kw and 380Nm.It will fly !!! AND on fumes too !! I think practically looking at 13-14km/liter From 2.0l the powerband will be narrow,but in the powerband it will have enormous power.

How did they managed to squeeze out +-25kw and 20Nm more than the next best Japanese 2L Turbo diesel engine!?

I don't like its design though, looks very much like a plain Jane Toyota Corolla hatchback.

Nairn1980 · 9 April 2013, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by watchf

How did they managed to squeeze out +-25kw and 20Nm more than the next best Japanese 2L Turbo diesel engine!?

I don't like its design though, looks very much like a plain Jane Toyota Corolla hatchback.

Plain Jane? Google the gti/gtd mark 7
..... Defo not plain Jane... The entry level models maybe!

colpol · 9 April 2013, 05:47 AM

I could have get another motorbike, my 1680 sub, a nice holiday plus spending money for the price of the golf ..... !!

You can tell I'm not a car person ......... !!

Nairn1980 · 14 April 2013, 04:36 AM

Ordered :) 4 month wait so will collect in September!!

psv · 14 April 2013, 04:51 AM

I bet you we'll never see it in the US...

Nairn1980 · 14 April 2013, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by psv

I bet you we'll never see it in the US...

It's rumoured that due to demand it may happen... You guys get GTI so why not GTD?

Hooper · 14 April 2013, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nairn1980

It's rumoured that due to demand it may happen... You guys get GTI so why not GTD?

Diesel still hasn't caught on for cars over here in North America!! Not sure if they will start with the VW

psv · 14 April 2013, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hooper

Diesel still hasn't caught on for cars over here in North America!! Not sure if they will start with the VW

They simply hasn't caught on because Exxon & Co doesn't want us to drive cars that get 700 miles to a tank of gas instead of 175. They price the product higher in retail, limit distribution locations. Big oil doesn't want us to drive diesel.

The second reason is California's regulations on emision, e.g. Toyota cannot bring over their diesel Land Cruisers and the likes because they don't pass CA regulations.

Hooper · 14 April 2013, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by psv

They simply hasn't caught on because Exxon & Co doesn't want us to drive cars that get 700 miles to a tank of gas instead of 175. They price the product higher in retail, limit distribution locations. Big oil doesn't want us to drive diesel.

The second reason is California's regulations on emision, e.g. Toyota cannot bring over their diesel Land Cruisers and the likes because they don't pass CA regulations.

True Patrick, Diesel still is quite dirty compared to gas, but what about outside Cali?? and the rest of North America? I do think the Big oil companies due have a hand in it though, your right there !

Nairn1980 · 14 April 2013, 06:33 PM

I go to friends in Florida every year. They always drive big engined petrol SUVs. However on the roads I am starting to spot diesels from BMW and Mercedes eg 330D and E350 cdi. Granted I see much more petrels than diesels but I thought it was slowly changing.

Here in the UK engine sizes are going down and turbos are being fitted. 1.2, 1.4 is a common petrol engine size for new medium cars now. As a result co2 and mpg are improving greatly (remember we pay road tax annually based on how clean the engine is)

Eg a big SUV will pay 200-400 a year where a cleaner car will pay from 0 a year. Add in the mpg difference at in dollars close to $10 a gallon and it starts to make sense why British cars are getting smaller and more efficient,

psv · 14 April 2013, 11:24 PM

I have a Toyota Land Cruiser with a gas-guzzling V8 at 275 hp in it. It is so stupid. I really want a diesel in that thing, but as described above, Toyota has explained to me that they have no intention of bringing one in.

Nairn1980 · 14 April 2013, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by psv

I have a Toyota Land Cruiser with a gas-guzzling V8 at 275 hp in it. It is so stupid. I really want a diesel in that thing, but as described above, Toyota has explained to me that they have no intention of bringing one in.

Wow virtually ALL SUV sales in the UK and much of Europe are diesel. A petrol model would have horrendous resale here in the UK

psv · 15 April 2013, 03:27 AM

I know, it is infuriating. Because it is not like I need speed in my 7000 lbs Land Cruiser, I just want torque.

Nairn1980 · 15 April 2013, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by psv

I know, it is infuriating. Because it is not like I need speed in my 7000 lbs Land Cruiser, I just want torque.

And a diesel gives you just that!!

Nairn1980 · 15 April 2013, 07:35 AM

An immaculate 2 year old Mercedes b class diesel will be available in September if anyone is interested haha!

Rodentman · 15 April 2013, 07:49 AM

I work for an energy company. We're not "big oil" (whatever that means). We own a refinery and over 100 retail outlets. We make Diesel and sell it all. Exxon et al does not set fuel prices. Exxon et al are not in a conspiracy to preclude higher mileage vehicles. Any allegation to the contrary is pure imagination and speculation.

Regarding the People's Republik of Kalifornia, blech.

speedo · 15 April 2013, 07:56 PM

funny seeing how americans are after diesel engines. here it is completely the opposite. all of my friends want simple, no turbocharged petrol engines. no v8s, no power monsters, just plain, reliable, easy and cheap to maintain engines.....

if you use it for around 15k miles per year a diesel is just not a very good option.
higher price, higher maintenance costs, much more things to break down. same applies to funny sized turbo charged petrol engines. they are just not ideal for city use.

here the conspiracy theorists are saying that the automotive industry wants us all to buy diesels even if we don't need them.

my wife drives a simple petrol engined volvo and if you take a look at the used car sites, they are nearly extinct though all i can see around me are perople looking for them.

Nairn1980 · 17 April 2013, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by psv

I bet you we'll never see it in the US...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...iesel/2072133/

You just might...

psv · 17 April 2013, 04:43 AM

Might... ;-)

7 April 2013, 11:20 PM	#1
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15 April 2013, 07:56 PM	#27
speedo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: bp, hu, eu Watch: dj 16234, 116610ln Posts: 2,376	funny seeing how americans are after diesel engines. here it is completely the opposite. all of my friends want simple, no turbocharged petrol engines. no v8s, no power monsters, just plain, reliable, easy and cheap to maintain engines..... if you use it for around 15k miles per year a diesel is just not a very good option. higher price, higher maintenance costs, much more things to break down. same applies to funny sized turbo charged petrol engines. they are just not ideal for city use. here the conspiracy theorists are saying that the automotive industry wants us all to buy diesels even if we don't need them. my wife drives a simple petrol engined volvo and if you take a look at the used car sites, they are nearly extinct though all i can see around me are perople looking for them. __________________ *16234 jubilee dial, 116610 ln, grand seiko sbgm221g, omega speedmaster mark II, longines legend diver, breguet 3910, nomos club campus 38, swatch sistem51, mares nemo, seiko ripley, g-shock rangeman* instagram: modus_horologicus

7 April 2013, 11:42 PM	#2
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	That's 136kw and 380Nm.It will fly !!! AND on fumes too !! I think practically looking at 13-14km/liter From 2.0l the powerband will be narrow,but in the powerband it will have enormous power.

9 April 2013, 05:47 AM	#13
colpol "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,895	I could have get another motorbike, my 1680 sub, a nice holiday plus spending money for the price of the golf ..... !! You can tell I'm not a car person ......... !!

14 April 2013, 04:36 AM	#14
Nairn1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Watch: GMT Posts: 8,385	Ordered :) 4 month wait so will collect in September!!

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psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	I bet you we'll never see it in the US...

14 April 2013, 06:33 PM	#20
Nairn1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Watch: GMT Posts: 8,385	I go to friends in Florida every year. They always drive big engined petrol SUVs. However on the roads I am starting to spot diesels from BMW and Mercedes eg 330D and E350 cdi. Granted I see much more petrels than diesels but I thought it was slowly changing. Here in the UK engine sizes are going down and turbos are being fitted. 1.2, 1.4 is a common petrol engine size for new medium cars now. As a result co2 and mpg are improving greatly (remember we pay road tax annually based on how clean the engine is) Eg a big SUV will pay 200-400 a year where a cleaner car will pay from 0 a year. Add in the mpg difference at in dollars close to $10 a gallon and it starts to make sense why British cars are getting smaller and more efficient,

14 April 2013, 11:24 PM	#21
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	I have a Toyota Land Cruiser with a gas-guzzling V8 at 275 hp in it. It is so stupid. I really want a diesel in that thing, but as described above, Toyota has explained to me that they have no intention of bringing one in.

15 April 2013, 03:27 AM	#23
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	I know, it is infuriating. Because it is not like I need speed in my 7000 lbs Land Cruiser, I just want torque.

15 April 2013, 07:35 AM	#25
Nairn1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Watch: GMT Posts: 8,385	An immaculate 2 year old Mercedes b class diesel will be available in September if anyone is interested haha!

15 April 2013, 07:49 AM	#26
Rodentman Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Real Name: ACCT CLOSED Location: - Posts: 1,497	I work for an energy company. We're not "big oil" (whatever that means). We own a refinery and over 100 retail outlets. We make Diesel and sell it all. Exxon et al does not set fuel prices. Exxon et al are not in a conspiracy to preclude higher mileage vehicles. Any allegation to the contrary is pure imagination and speculation. Regarding the People's Republik of Kalifornia, blech.

17 April 2013, 04:43 AM	#29
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	Might... ;-)

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