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Old 7 January 2008, 11:01 AM   #1
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Sub bracelet sizing

Ok - so I had my new SS Sub Date sized after purchasing two weeks ago. The AD removed one link and moved the pin out one spot on the clasp. Position 2 - to position 3.

That was a bit tight so - they moved it out one more pin hole to position 4.

After about two weeks, I decided this was too loose. So, had it moved it one pin again. (to the #3 position where it is now)

When it's cool out - it fits fine. When hot / end of the day - it fits too tight.

So - having looked at the bracelet resizing link Bo has posted http://members.aol.com/sheldons4/bracelet.htm I've noticed that if I put the extra link back in and move the clasp pin from position #3 to position #1 (the closest in to the outer clasp lock) it will be between where it was when loose and where it is now to tight. Best of both worlds right... One question...

My wonder is, do any of you have your bracelet set to the inner most clasp pin hole?

Seems this will work for me but, I don't want the other end of the clasp to not be supported tight to the bracelet and have it catch on things or be a risk for damage. Since Rolex put a hole there I assume it will be ok but. Not sure if it will but, if you look at the link you'll see that in position 1, that is the farthest in the clasp pins can be adjusted so, it's not in the middle to hold up both sides to the bracelet.

Anyone have any advice to offer?

Since the last time I had it adjusted the AD put micro hair size scratches, I think I need to locate a SD tool and do it myself. Are these really $59?

Are there any other tools to use to resize the bracelet?

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Old 7 January 2008, 12:36 PM   #2
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We all change with a change in temperature and humidity...Wear your watch so it is comfortable most of the time... or use a toothpick to change the micro pin adjustment every winter/summer.


As for the SD tool kit..

There is no reason on earth why anybody who does not have an SD would need a tool kit. To buy the kit with the extra divers link, the "black screw", dive tables, and combo screw driver/pin depresser, is just plain silly.

The screwdriver is a nice piece...it's true... But it's cheaper and more useful to buy a set of jewelers screwdrivers.. and cheaper yet to get the small screwdriver kits at your favorite home store..
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Old 7 January 2008, 01:25 PM   #3
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You can just use a toothpick to resize the pins? If that works I'm all set.

!@#$ - I'm out of toothpicks currently... I imagine floss will not work!
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Old 8 January 2008, 01:05 AM   #4
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I know you have an SS Sub, but for all it's worth, I have sized my SS GMT IIc up so that the pin in the clasp is in the (hidden) last and innermost hole of the 3 availible on the SS GMT IIc.

And Larry is right about the SD tool set. I recommend it, because I have it and is working perfectly. However, the SD tool set has one disadvantage since the size of the head of the screwdriver only fits the screw on SPORT'S Rolex watches.

So if you want a more versatile tool kit, I would recommend you a screwdriver set of various sizes.
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Old 8 January 2008, 01:46 AM   #5
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Thanks Bo! I put the pin to the outermost hole last night (still too loose) in position 4. Position 3 is too tight. So, if you say it works I think I'll have the one extra link I had removed - put back in and move into the closest position (1). Hey, if it's there I'm sure Rolex figured it'd be fine to use.

Now, just need to go to a good AD here in New York (Long Island / NYC) that will put the link back in for me w/o adding scratches!
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Old 8 January 2008, 05:09 AM   #6
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How about this link if you just want the ref 2100 tool. You might get him/her to send it worldwide:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ayphotohosting

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Old 10 January 2008, 03:40 AM   #7
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Bracelet Sizing Update & Question?

I had the extra link that was originally taken out of my SS Sub Date put back in (now as orig. BNIB) & had them move the clasp pin to the most inward (pos. 1).

Did have it with one link out and was at a dilemma because clasp position 4 (14.6 cm) was too loose (could push around my wrist)

Clasp position 3 (14.3 cm) was too tight when it was warm / my wrist swelled. Not bad when cool though...

I followed Bo's link http://members.aol.com/sheldons4/bracelet.htm and it shows that the mid point would be to put that extra link in and move to position 1 (14.5 cm).

I did this and it now it seems larger than it was???

Is this site correct in it's sizing measurments?

Anyone else have this problem... This is my first Rolex and I've never had this type of problem getting a bracelet sized to fit me. I'm frustrated here

Rolex case is heavy in comparison to the bracelet so, when loose it digs on case side to wrist and the lighter bracelet (underwrist) stays put - so - at an angle.

I don't think I have any other options. Either let it dangle or have it too tight.

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Old 10 January 2008, 05:24 AM   #8
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What is your wrist size, Nick??

Most Subs and other sport's Rolex watches fit a wrist of 7½ " right out of the box. I seem to remember having the pin in the clasp in the 3rd. hole, but I am not sure since I don't have my SS Sub Date anymore.

Was the bracelet link removed on the 12 o' clock side?

Oh, and the url above is not "mine". Credit goes to Sheldon who did a great job at making this size chart.
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Old 10 January 2008, 05:40 AM   #9
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Nick,

You don't say what you had before, but a Rolex is a top-heavy watch. If you are not used to this type of time-piece, it does take a bit of getting used to.

They, regardless of the brand, tend to rotate to the outside of the wrist unless worn snug. That snuggness is usually too tight for most folks comfort level, so it will move about when it is cold out and feel tight when it is hot and humid..

That is the basis behind the "comfort link" that the new GMT II has..

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Old 10 January 2008, 05:42 AM   #10
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My AD removed one link from my Sub's bracelet (12 o'clock side) when I bought it, and then moved the adjustment pins to the #2 holes. This fixed the fit for me and allows for expantion when the weather gets too hot or cold. My wrist is a little smallish, and the results were good. Hope this helps...

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Old 10 January 2008, 06:12 AM   #11
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Well. They took out the link on the 12 side first and moved pin to pos. 3 (two holes away from 12 o clock) with pin originally in hole/pos. 2 ( three away from 12 o'clock ). This was too tight (14.3 cm) at first so - had them move the pin to hole pos 4 (the closest to 12 o clock - furthest outward hole) = too loose (14.6 cm)

So, the link from Sheldon shows a mid point between 14.3 cm and 14.6 cm when you add the fourth removable link back in (since mine was taken out) and move the clasp pin into the first hole (pos. 1 - furthest from 12 o'clock). This, again, seems looser to me than the 1 link out and clasp in pos. 4 (closest to 12 o'clock).

Basically - I'm just trying to find the right fit and haven't been satisfied with any position yet and have tried about three. The one I'm in now was supposedly 14.5 cm (between the previous two positions I tried)

My wrist measures 7.125 - 7.25 inches at widest (around the bone / ulner tubrosity as some put it )
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Old 10 January 2008, 06:33 AM   #12
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Oh, then I can only suggest what I suggested Stuart ("Arttay10") here once:

Have "High Tea with scones and butter every day for a month and your Rolex will fit ya like a glove" (with the pin in the outer hole, that is).

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Old 10 January 2008, 10:41 AM   #13
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Well on to the scones and butter! Or, more wine and cheese for me... Oh, and some steak!
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Think yourself lucky. Omega's have no adjustment pin. Imagine that!
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Old 10 January 2008, 11:55 AM   #15
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Guess I'm glad I didn't buy the anniversary speedmaster then!

But, I've had other watches without pins too and they fit perfect. I guess I'm used to the slightly loose fit but, have had balanced watches prior so the case didn't dig into the wrist when off center. I've had dive watches but, they had solid links so, they balanced the heavy cases I guess.

I just wonder if the size I have the watch now is actually smaller than it was prior to adding the 4th link and going into the tightest pin setting...

Guess I just need to get a screwdriver set and keep tweaking it till I find happiness.
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Think yourself lucky. Omega's have no adjustment pin. Imagine that!
Yeah but they have half links, which is good.
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I've been having some issues getting my GMT IIc sized correctly, but I'm getting used to it now. I'm coming from a Seamaster, with its half links, and the feel of the two watches is definitely different. The way I have it sized now, it's comfortably loose when it's cool outside, and just right when my wrists swell. Still, I'm considering having the bracelet tightened one clasp hole to see what it feels like (the clasp is all the way out now).

BTW, I think some people are off on what they consider small wrists. If you only had to have one link removed to get the bracelet sized correctly, you do NOT have small wrists. I had 3 links removed from my GMT to get it to fit right, with the clasp let all the way out. My wrists are easily under 6.5" However, I'm very happy with my first Rolex. Unfortunately, I don't think a Sea Dweller will ever be in my future, as much as I want one. Just too much watch for these wrists.
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