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masterserg · 6 May 2013, 11:33 PM

Hey guys,

Trying to decide which one will be my first AP. Love them both but I can only get one.

I can't make a choice so I am looking for enabling

Thanks!

texex91 · 6 May 2013, 11:43 PM

Well certainly different in many ways--both great ways to step into the AP world.

Diver is a great sports watch and very comfortable. Keep in mind it has a rubber strap, so not a dressy. It was my first AP and a great watch for almost any occasion. Is this going to be a daily?

15400 is a versatile watch that can be dressed up or down. The black dial will tend to make it a little dressier, than say the silver dial. Another great watch for everyday, but try it on, as some complain that it doesn't fit right on their wrist. For me it's ideal.

Either way--you have made a great choice to get an AP. You'll love them.

Not black, but straight out of the box when I bought it. Gives you good sizing perspective:

masterserg · 6 May 2013, 11:48 PM

Only have a pic of the 15400 and it does fit great.

I should add that this would leave me with a PAM 233 as my other watch so the diver might cover a similar space (though my plan would be to get the bracelet later on).

It's a tough one ... I am leaning towards the one I am thinking about at any given moment. :)

texex91 · 6 May 2013, 11:50 PM

Yep if you have a PAM, then go for the 15400. You can always sell the PAM and get a Diver later--once you've been sucked into the AP world of no return

benlee · 6 May 2013, 11:54 PM

IMO, they are both must-have APs so right choice is to buy both! But if "force" to choose, then I will recommend the Diver.

I mean, seriously, can you say no to this?

That being said, however. If you already have a sporty ROO and you are looking at more of a sporty dress watch. Then the 15400 might fit the bill better. And I recommend the white dial.

So actually, can't go wrong both ways. Good luck with your choice!

kilyung · 7 May 2013, 12:00 AM

Start with the Diver Serg. However, I'd sell some other stuff and get both.

masterserg · 7 May 2013, 12:01 AM

That's the sort of enabling I was looking for. Awesome!

Hairdude1 · 7 May 2013, 03:13 AM

Diver!!!

masterserg · 7 May 2013, 03:51 AM

You guys are killing me! I am trying to convince myself that the 15400 is the sensible choice for a mature gent such as myself ...

orangejuicy · 7 May 2013, 04:11 AM

I definitely find that I miss the bracelet of the 15400 when I'm wearing the diver but hey, I might just save up to get the ROO bracelet!

My choice:

masterserg · 7 May 2013, 04:12 AM

^^^ Do you miss the sapphire back? That really gives me pause!

My evil plan (if I go for the Diver) is to add the bracelet later on.

SaddleSC · 7 May 2013, 04:26 AM

If you search deep in your heart...you already know the right choice:)

Good luck with your decision, buddy!

masterserg · 7 May 2013, 04:27 AM

^^^ Right :) Congrats on your stunning incoming by the way!

Jim12345 · 7 May 2013, 04:41 AM

Can't go wrong with the Diver, but there is no bad choice whichever you choose, good luck with your decision.

masterserg · 7 May 2013, 05:11 AM

I think that, in line with the comments of one good buddy (you know who you are) the best choice is 15400 + 233. Then, if I love the brand ... inevitable as it sounds, the 233 could be traded for the Diver making it one on a strap and one on a bracelet.

And I get to peep at that amazing 3120 every now and then!

Demonoid · 7 May 2013, 05:16 AM

Again, am with Mike on this one. Sell the other stuff and get both.

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AP's are amazing little machines. My 2 cents.

ec00421 · 7 May 2013, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ejsc421

masterkiller · 7 May 2013, 05:32 AM

Diver!

bayerische · 7 May 2013, 07:17 AM

Hmmm.... Diver''''?

AK797 · 7 May 2013, 07:44 AM

Best for black is the mega tappiserie of the Diver, and white/silver is best for the RO, so get both of course.

Cru Jones · 7 May 2013, 08:27 AM

I would say, start with the 15400 and, if the desire continues, get the Diver. However, even with a Diver and 15400, I could not see moving the 233.

masterserg · 7 May 2013, 08:34 AM

Very interesting opinions everybody.

To Neil (AK797), in fact I so much prefer the black tapisserie to the mega tapisserie ... the way it catches the light.

Cru, I am right there with you!

All roads point to the 15400 :)

SaddleSC · 7 May 2013, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterserg

I so much prefer the black tapisserie to the mega tapisserie ... the way it catches the light.

Cru, I am right there with you!

All roads point to the 15400 :)

Do you need David's contact info or do you have him on speed dial?

kilyung · 7 May 2013, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

I would say, start with the 15400 and, if the desire continues, get the Diver. However, even with a Diver and 15400, I could not see moving the 233.

The sound of reason!

TSW · 7 May 2013, 08:52 AM

Can't go wrong with any AP, However i'd go with the Diver.

Rashid.bk · 7 May 2013, 08:54 AM

I saw the Diver in the AP boutique and was absolutely floored by the dial.
A few days later I spotted a gent with a 15400 on his wrist while reading a magazine next to me, the bracelet was incredible and the dial reflected and danced with light in beautiful ways.
Have you had a chance to actually try on a Diver, I'd say definitely give it a shot.
Very hard choice, having the Pam on leather and a Diver on Rubber.......
I say get the 15400.
Later, move the Pam and welcome the Diver.

dalip · 7 May 2013, 09:04 AM

The diver is one of my favourite watches .... And exceptionally comfortable. Love the 15400 also. But diver nips it

Watchmaster17 · 7 May 2013, 11:10 AM

I would go with the 15400 first then the diver later

masterserg · 7 May 2013, 11:14 AM

I am loving this thread. I am getting more than what I bargained for :) Thanks!

Shade · 7 May 2013, 01:34 PM

It will be a difficult decision to make, however I prefer the 15400 slightly, I can always buy the leather conversion from AP bands... which I really like.

And I'm sticking with my 15300 btw, I don't like the size and bezel/dial ratio on the new 15400.. I don't know why.

6 May 2013, 11:33 PM	#1
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	Diver or 15400 Black Dial Hey guys, Trying to decide which one will be my first AP. Love them both but I can only get one. I can't make a choice so I am looking for enabling Thanks! __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

6 May 2013, 11:48 PM	#3
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	Only have a pic of the 15400 and it does fit great. I should add that this would leave me with a PAM 233 as my other watch so the diver might cover a similar space (though my plan would be to get the bracelet later on). It's a tough one ... I am leaning towards the one I am thinking about at any given moment. :) Attached Images __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

7 May 2013, 12:01 AM	#7
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	That's the sort of enabling I was looking for. Awesome! __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

7 May 2013, 03:51 AM	#9
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	You guys are killing me! I am trying to convince myself that the 15400 is the sensible choice for a mature gent such as myself ... __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

7 May 2013, 04:12 AM	#11
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	^^^ Do you miss the sapphire back? That really gives me pause! My evil plan (if I go for the Diver) is to add the bracelet later on. __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

6 May 2013, 11:43 PM	#2
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Well certainly different in many ways--both great ways to step into the AP world. Diver is a great sports watch and very comfortable. Keep in mind it has a rubber strap, so not a dressy. It was my first AP and a great watch for almost any occasion. Is this going to be a daily? 15400 is a versatile watch that can be dressed up or down. The black dial will tend to make it a little dressier, than say the silver dial. Another great watch for everyday, but try it on, as some complain that it doesn't fit right on their wrist. For me it's ideal. Either way--you have made a great choice to get an AP. You'll love them. Not black, but straight out of the box when I bought it. Gives you good sizing perspective:

6 May 2013, 11:50 PM	#4
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Yep if you have a PAM, then go for the 15400. You can always sell the PAM and get a Diver later--once you've been sucked into the AP world of no return

6 May 2013, 11:54 PM	#5
benlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ben Location: SIN & JKT Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 9,874	IMO, they are both must-have APs so right choice is to buy both! But if "force" to choose, then I will recommend the Diver. I mean, seriously, can you say no to this? That being said, however. If you already have a sporty ROO and you are looking at more of a sporty dress watch. Then the 15400 might fit the bill better. And I recommend the white dial. So actually, can't go wrong both ways. Good luck with your choice!

7 May 2013, 12:00 AM	#6
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Start with the Diver Serg. However, I'd sell some other stuff and get both.

7 May 2013, 03:13 AM	#8
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	Diver!!!

7 May 2013, 04:11 AM	#10
orangejuicy "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Jordan Location: New York City Watch: less for now Posts: 556	I definitely find that I miss the bracelet of the 15400 when I'm wearing the diver but hey, I might just save up to get the ROO bracelet! My choice:

7 May 2013, 04:26 AM	#12
SaddleSC "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Charles B Location: GMT -7 Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 6,131	If you search deep in your heart...you already know the right choice:) Good luck with your decision, buddy! __________________ Hulk 116610LV + GMT II 126710 BLNR + Explorer 124270 + Air King 126900 + Submariner 16613LB

7 May 2013, 04:27 AM	#13
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	^^^ Right :) Congrats on your stunning incoming by the way! __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

7 May 2013, 04:41 AM	#14
Jim12345 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Jim Location: England Posts: 416	Can't go wrong with the Diver, but there is no bad choice whichever you choose, good luck with your decision.

7 May 2013, 05:11 AM	#15
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	I think that, in line with the comments of one good buddy (you know who you are) the best choice is 15400 + 233. Then, if I love the brand ... inevitable as it sounds, the 233 could be traded for the Diver making it one on a strap and one on a bracelet. And I get to peep at that amazing 3120 every now and then! __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

7 May 2013, 05:16 AM	#16
Demonoid 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Logan Location: USA Posts: 2,483	Again, am with Mike on this one. Sell the other stuff and get both. AP's are amazing little machines. My 2 cents.

7 May 2013, 05:32 AM	#18
masterkiller "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sweden Watch: Rolex, AP & PAM... Posts: 1,403	Diver! __________________ Rolex - SubC... AP - Diver... Panerai - PAM380 Omega - Speedy PRO

7 May 2013, 07:17 AM	#19
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Hmmm.... Diver''''? __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

7 May 2013, 07:44 AM	#20
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Best for black is the mega tappiserie of the Diver, and white/silver is best for the RO, so get both of course.

7 May 2013, 08:27 AM	#21
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,303	I would say, start with the 15400 and, if the desire continues, get the Diver. However, even with a Diver and 15400, I could not see moving the 233.

7 May 2013, 08:34 AM	#22
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	Very interesting opinions everybody. To Neil (AK797), in fact I so much prefer the black tapisserie to the mega tapisserie ... the way it catches the light. Cru, I am right there with you! All roads point to the 15400 :) __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

7 May 2013, 08:52 AM	#25
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Can't go wrong with any AP, However i'd go with the Diver. __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

7 May 2013, 08:54 AM	#26
Rashid.bk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas Watch: 12800ft = 3900m Posts: 11,173	I saw the Diver in the AP boutique and was absolutely floored by the dial. A few days later I spotted a gent with a 15400 on his wrist while reading a magazine next to me, the bracelet was incredible and the dial reflected and danced with light in beautiful ways. Have you had a chance to actually try on a Diver, I'd say definitely give it a shot. Very hard choice, having the Pam on leather and a Diver on Rubber....... I say get the 15400. Later, move the Pam and welcome the Diver.

7 May 2013, 09:04 AM	#27
dalip "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Dalip Location: Mumbai and Perth Watch: Rolex PAM Omega Posts: 18,656	The diver is one of my favourite watches .... And exceptionally comfortable. Love the 15400 also. But diver nips it __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ *"The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else." George Bernard Shaw*

7 May 2013, 11:10 AM	#28
Watchmaster17 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Cesar Location: Westchester co ny Watch: Ap Ro,Diver Gmt2G Posts: 107	I would go with the 15400 first then the diver later

7 May 2013, 11:14 AM	#29
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	I am loving this thread. I am getting more than what I bargained for :) Thanks! __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

7 May 2013, 01:34 PM	#30
Shade "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Norman Location: Jakarta Watch: All of 'em.. Posts: 2,926	It will be a difficult decision to make, however I prefer the 15400 slightly, I can always buy the leather conversion from AP bands... which I really like. And I'm sticking with my 15300 btw, I don't like the size and bezel/dial ratio on the new 15400.. I don't know why. __________________ My collections.. Plus PAM 233, 232, 249 & PAM 417.

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