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Old 13 May 2013, 03:48 AM   #1
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First post looking for feedback. Explorer 39mm or SubC no date?

I am visiting the NYC Rolex Boutique later today, not to buy, but to try.

Wanted to introduce myself as a new member here. I recently sold my Omega Planet Ocean Ceramic 42mm. I did it to originally fund the purchase of the Pelagos, but changed my mind.

I am now leaning toward either the Explorer or the subc no date. Go big or go home i guess.

Before you give me advice on which timepiece, let me explain why i sold every Omega i have owned and how I cant seem to commit to one watch. I want to be one watch type of guy. The Omega PO both with 2500 and 8500 cal were great. the 8500 calibre was almost as accurate as my quartz gshock. But it was too tall in height even in 42mm. especially for a 3 hand non chrono.

I decided not to get the pelagos because if i am going to spend $4k for tudor, why not go for rolex if i have the budget, to get the name, prestige and in house movement.

The only watch I do love and will never sell (Dont laugh) is my Hamilton Jazzmaster Power Reserve. 40mm, ETA 2897. It was a special gift and i love how premium it looks for a watch under $900.


I am in NYC and often see working professionals on the subway and metro north trains with Rolex Submariners. I see more Submariners than any high end sport watch. This somewhat bothers me. I have always wanted to be unique. But there must be valid reasons why so many people own the subc. and the new subc without date looks fantastic.

But I also really love the design language of the Explorer. Very clean without a rotating diver bezel. No date. elegant matte black dial.

Resale value is also important. As i hope i can hold onto either rolex forever, my track record says i wont. My guess is the subc will retain better value for what i pay since demand is so high?

I honestly think i will likely own both. But which do i get 1st?

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Old 13 May 2013, 05:05 AM   #2
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After you try them both on you should have your answer. You can't go wrong either way.
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Old 13 May 2013, 05:42 AM   #3
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Both nice.
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Old 13 May 2013, 05:43 AM   #4
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Explorer.

If it was between the Explorer and the older 14060 Sub...I'd go for the Sub. I'm not crazy about the ceramic.

I promise you, you'll LOVE both of them though.
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Old 13 May 2013, 05:51 AM   #5
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Older sub (date or no date). The way I look at it is if everyone has one then they must be worth it. Just be sure you can live with no date on your time piece. No need to feel ashamed about the Hamilton, I have a Khaki edition that I will never give up.
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Old 13 May 2013, 05:53 AM   #6
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flip a coin,though i give the edge to the sub,there is areason it is so popular
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Old 13 May 2013, 06:49 AM   #7
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Just left the ny wempe operated boutique. I am gonna get the new 114060 sub w/no date. But through an AD who will deal. In a few weeks i'll post a photo and possibly a youtube review.

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Old 13 May 2013, 07:18 AM   #8
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First welcome again. Next your watch is very cool. Third you can't go wrong with either, but your choice to go with the Rolex Sub IMHO is a good one.
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Old 13 May 2013, 07:26 AM   #9
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Sub to compliment tha Jazzmaster.
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Old 13 May 2013, 07:33 AM   #10
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Welcome, excellent choice on the Sub. You narrowed it down to two great models, good luck with the new piece
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Old 13 May 2013, 07:36 AM   #11
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Old 13 May 2013, 08:08 AM   #12
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Congrats on your decision, you'll love it.
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Old 13 May 2013, 08:40 AM   #13
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You will one day end up with both. So, buy the one you like best, then buy the second one.
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Old 13 May 2013, 08:44 AM   #14
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Old 13 May 2013, 09:11 AM   #15
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both R great - congrats and enjoy for many years to come
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Old 13 May 2013, 09:43 AM   #16
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Nice choice. I have the Sub-C ND and it is one of my favorites. Enjoy.
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Old 13 May 2013, 09:48 AM   #17
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Despite what they have in common, the Sub and the Explorer are two very different watches.

I would suggest getting the Sub first, because if you buy the Explorer, you'll wind up with the Sub anyway, since you've obviously got the watch bug.

If you have the Sub, then you'll be in a better position to choose the next one, because you will have already satisfied that itch to buy a Sub that will undoubtedly strike as soon as you strap any Rolex on your arm.
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Old 13 May 2013, 10:28 AM   #18
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Great decision, welcome to TRF!
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Old 13 May 2013, 10:35 AM   #19
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I prefer the Sub to the Explorer.
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Old 13 May 2013, 11:39 PM   #20
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A follow up question...

How is the new 3130 movement with parachrom perform? I am coming from the new Omega 8500 coaxial with silicone upgrades and it was very accurate. less than 1-2 seconds a week out of the box.

I have heard some submariners/rolex needing a lot of massaging to be accurate. yet some are as accurate as the omega mentioned out of the box too. Do i need to worry, is this a downgrade in movement?

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