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subtona · 21 June 2013, 04:37 AM

Submariner TT 16613 Bluesy. The watch was purchased new by me in 1991.

just came across these pics i took of my bracelet, if you ever asked how do they get so worn...

i wore it as my only watch for exactly 20years, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

just wanted to share the wear and tear after all that time.

the watch never came off my wrist regardless of the activity & work, it was cleaned only in the shower with me, occasionally i would use a toothbrush for the crevices.

it was previously polished once during a visit to RSCNY

SohAIS · 21 June 2013, 04:38 AM

wow amazing. Kudos for sticking to it for 20 yrs

Clay · 21 June 2013, 04:38 AM

I love it...

schinie · 21 June 2013, 04:42 AM

do you have pictures of the whole watch?

SohAIS · 21 June 2013, 04:44 AM

oh yes i would like to see that too

subtona · 21 June 2013, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schinie

do you have pictures of the whole watch?

cant find pictures of whole watch before, it cleaned up pretty well though

this is after a service and with a new SS bracelet... i sold watch a couple of years ago.

and the bezel wear (rounding out) was done courtesy of RSC, NOT 20 years of wear

ps if you look close in the straight on pic with the white background, you can see the inside lug wear from the point the old style 93150 bracelet would rub.

ray0750 · 21 June 2013, 05:02 AM

looks great

cop414 · 21 June 2013, 05:26 AM

Wow Gus, gotta ask, do you regret getting rid of it!

Rags · 21 June 2013, 05:34 AM

Looks great with a SS bracelet..

subtona · 21 June 2013, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cop414

Wow Gus, gotta ask, do you regret getting rid of it!

Tim,
I regret bringing it to RSC where they butchered it.... They tainted it enough that the magic was lost... But thats another story

& since then i have found some satisfactory replacements, thanks to TRF & the never ending supply of enablers

c.rod · 21 June 2013, 05:44 AM

what did they do to the bezel? looks weird

floater156 · 21 June 2013, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rags

Looks great with a SS bracelet..

x2

Daytona-Dan · 21 June 2013, 05:53 AM

Thanks for sharing! It's very cool to see how the gold centre links have worn much faster than the SS outer links. I know they were not solid, but it shows the main reason Rolex ditched the hollow links. Would love to see how sold links would hold up after 20 years..

stockae92 · 21 June 2013, 05:54 AM

Polished off too much metal?

Quote:

Originally Posted by subtona

Tim,
I regret bringing it to RSC where they butchered it.... They tainted it enough that the magic was lost... But thats another story

& since then i have found some satisfactory replacements, thanks to TRF & the never ending supply of enablers

subtona · 21 June 2013, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stockae92

Polished off too much metal?

*Rounded the bezel
*Replaced insert with luminova , vs tritium.
*Bezel insert also used a different color gold for the numerals
*Removed caseback sticker
*Scratched & replaced original dial

I call it butchered.

All the things are minor, but if i can take care of it for 20 years, its a bummer when someone alters it, when they were only supposed to service it.
Live & learn

stockae92 · 21 June 2013, 06:12 AM

I agree with you. they made it into a different watch

rolio · 21 June 2013, 08:59 AM

That is a beautiful watch. Now I know why JJ loved his so much.

Rolex-10 · 21 June 2013, 09:33 AM

Love that old bracelet.

Looks kinda cool on new SS too.

Sous · 21 June 2013, 09:39 AM

I gotta ask, Gus--did you wear the bracelet tight, or loose?

c.rod · 21 June 2013, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subtona

*Rounded the bezel
*Replaced insert with luminova , vs tritium.
*Bezel insert also used a different color gold for the numerals
*Removed caseback sticker
*Scratched & replaced original dial

I call it butchered.

All the things are minor, but if i can take care of it for 20 years, its a bummer when someone alters it, when they were only supposed to service it.
Live & learn

why would they round the bezel? is that protocol on any watch?

Bangel · 21 June 2013, 10:12 AM

Thanks for the pictures.

Given your experience when it returned from service, I can completely understand why some of the magic died for you.

nick c · 21 June 2013, 10:14 AM

GREAT

greekbum · 21 June 2013, 11:42 AM

Gus I like the look on the SS bracelet

cop414 · 21 June 2013, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subtona

Tim,
I regret bringing it to RSC where they butchered it.... They tainted it enough that the magic was lost... But thats another story

& since then i have found some satisfactory replacements, thanks to TRF & the never ending supply of enablers

Gus, that's a crying shame. You loved it for two deacdes and in one fell swoop they totally screwed things up. If you don't mind me asking who do you use now for any service or refurbishing?

JohnAndrew · 21 June 2013, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rags

Looks great with a SS bracelet..

X3

c.rod · 21 June 2013, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cop414

Gus, that's a crying shame. You loved it for two deacdes and in one fell swoop they totally screwed things up. If you don't mind me asking who do you use now for any service or refurbishing?

because it was so bad, maybe they let the apprentices' have a go at it?lol

GradyPhilpott · 21 June 2013, 01:24 PM

Did I understand you to say that Rolex put an SS bracelet on the watch?

I'm sorry they butchered the watch and I do understand your disappointment, not that that word captures your true sentiment.

Andad · 21 June 2013, 01:47 PM

Looks good.

Is that a replacement Tritium dial?

Atomant · 21 June 2013, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subtona

*Rounded the bezel
*Replaced insert with luminova , vs tritium.
*Bezel insert also used a different color gold for the numerals
*Removed caseback sticker
*Scratched & replaced original dial

I call it butchered.

All the things are minor, but if i can take care of it for 20 years, its a bummer when someone alters it, when they were only supposed to service it.
Live & learn

Thanks for sharing. Enjoy looking at pictures of real Rolex wearers. As for your watch I'm sorry to hear what RSC has done to it. I thought this only happens in RSC Singapore where they totally over polished and rounded the lugs off of a Rolex i sent it for a full service. cheers:

mruhland31 · 21 June 2013, 02:31 PM

I love the wear..my Sub is on my wrist every day. I assume mine will look like that too...very cool

21 June 2013, 04:37 AM	#1
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,599	Bracelet after 20 years of daily use. Submariner TT 16613 Bluesy. The watch was purchased new by me in 1991. just came across these pics i took of my bracelet, if you ever asked how do they get so worn... i wore it as my only watch for exactly 20years, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. just wanted to share the wear and tear after all that time. the watch never came off my wrist regardless of the activity & work, it was cleaned only in the shower with me, occasionally i would use a toothbrush for the crevices. it was previously polished once during a visit to RSCNY Attached Images __________________

21 June 2013, 05:26 AM	#8
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21 June 2013, 05:34 AM	#9
Rags 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chuck Location: SW Florida Watch: 16233,16610,214270 Posts: 11,196	Looks great with a SS bracelet.. __________________ 16233 Y Serial Datejust 16610 Z Serial Submariner 214270 Explorer *114300 Oyster Perpetual* *76200 Tudor Date+Day*

21 June 2013, 06:12 AM	#16
stockae92 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 4,964	I agree with you. they made it into a different watch __________________ 135 ├┼┼╕ 246 R

21 June 2013, 08:59 AM	#17
rolio "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: justRay Location: Back2California Watch: Birdies Posts: 1,921	That is a beautiful watch. Now I know why JJ loved his so much. __________________ JJ "Tranquil? Just wait till I get started!! LOL! LOL!" --JJ Rolex~By way of an extraordinary life, and all the simple pleasures it has to offer~

21 June 2013, 04:38 AM	#2
SohAIS ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Aamir Location: Atlanta, Georgia Watch: Patek, Rolex Posts: 34,546	wow amazing. Kudos for sticking to it for 20 yrs

21 June 2013, 04:38 AM	#3
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	I love it...

21 June 2013, 04:42 AM	#4
schinie "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: austria Posts: 53	do you have pictures of the whole watch?

21 June 2013, 04:44 AM	#5
SohAIS ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Aamir Location: Atlanta, Georgia Watch: Patek, Rolex Posts: 34,546	oh yes i would like to see that too

21 June 2013, 05:02 AM	#7
ray0750 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toronto Posts: 271	looks great

21 June 2013, 05:44 AM	#11
c.rod "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,252	what did they do to the bezel? looks weird

21 June 2013, 05:53 AM	#13
Daytona-Dan Banned Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Dan Location: UK Watch: 116528 Posts: 1,049	Thanks for sharing! It's very cool to see how the gold centre links have worn much faster than the SS outer links. I know they were not solid, but it shows the main reason Rolex ditched the hollow links. Would love to see how sold links would hold up after 20 years..

21 June 2013, 09:33 AM	#18
Rolex-10 Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: UK Posts: 288	Love that old bracelet. Looks kinda cool on new SS too.

21 June 2013, 09:39 AM	#19
Sous "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Paul Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 307	I gotta ask, Gus--did you wear the bracelet tight, or loose?

21 June 2013, 10:12 AM	#21
Bangel "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia Watch: 116610LN Posts: 15,802	Thanks for the pictures. Given your experience when it returned from service, I can completely understand why some of the magic died for you.

21 June 2013, 10:14 AM	#22
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	GREAT

21 June 2013, 11:42 AM	#23
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,418	Gus I like the look on the SS bracelet __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

21 June 2013, 01:24 PM	#27
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK047 Posts: 34,460	Did I understand you to say that Rolex put an SS bracelet on the watch? I'm sorry they butchered the watch and I do understand your disappointment, not that that word captures your true sentiment. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

21 June 2013, 01:47 PM	#28
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,533	Looks good. Is that a replacement Tritium dial? __________________ E

21 June 2013, 02:31 PM	#30
mruhland31 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Santa Clarita CA Posts: 1,028	I love the wear..my Sub is on my wrist every day. I assume mine will look like that too...very cool

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