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Tools · 20 January 2008, 11:18 AM

Submariner Reference Numbers: Since ~1989; 14060, 14060M, 16610, 16610V, 16613, 16618

Date of production:
Modern Sapphire crystal Subs, from mid-1980's into 2010 production year.

Weight
14060 - 127 grams
16610 - 135 grams
16613 - 148 grams
16618 - 175 grams
As a comparison, the: 1680 - 117 grams

Movement:
14060M - Calibre:3130, Jewels:31, Beats per hour:28,800
16610 - Calibre:3135, Jewels:31,
16610V - 3135
16613 - 3135

Power Reserve:

Photographs:
14060M:
SSSub2 copy.jpg

14060M-COSC Z-series,
(Photo courtesy of Mike)

16610
(Photo Courtesy of Mike)

16610 LV-F series-oval O
(Photo courtesy of Mike)

16610 LV-D series
(Photo courtesy of Mike)

V series 16610, LV and LN:
IMG_0452 copy.jpg

Rolex 3135 Movement:
Mvt7Close copy.jpg

Links:
Rolex Site - Submariner

The 3135 Movement

Andad · 16 October 2008, 05:53 PM

New YG Blue ceramic sub.
Ad rang me to come and see it today.
New clasp adjustment lift slide and re-clip - very nice.
Colour was almost identical to the current TT blue sub. First pix seems to wash the colour out. Second pix shows the correct darker blue.

tudorwatches · 16 October 2008, 06:28 PM

Looking great !
A lot of people were nagging about the blue..
Love it !!

golfball123 · 16 October 2008, 11:59 PM

great pics.. especially the yg sub..

JimC · 26 October 2008, 01:06 PM

Some excellent photos! Thanks, all!

Zman86 · 26 October 2008, 01:57 PM

I wonder if I'll be able to update the clasp on mine with that one eventually

Alcan · 26 October 2008, 02:17 PM

One of the great things about the 16613 Black TT Sub is that there's only one shade of black. They all look exactly the same regardless of the production year. And its as much at home in the boardroom as on the starting line of a yacht race.

adr · 26 October 2008, 03:17 PM

bravo

nice & appealing pictures

Cato · 30 October 2008, 03:32 PM

Wow, what a classic!

rilu · 30 October 2008, 03:45 PM

awsome pics

tommypit · 22 December 2008, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcan

One of the great things about the 16613 Black TT Sub is that there's only one shade of black. They all look exactly the same regardless of the production year. And its as much at home in the boardroom as on the starting line of a yacht race.

I bought the same watch a couple of weeks ago and I love it! The contrast of the black and gold is a real eye popper and feels great on the wrist. I dont go into board rooms or yachts. Im looking forward to wearing it on the first warm spring day with jeans and white t-shirt

hflee55 · 14 January 2009, 01:40 PM

Love the Subs....Awesome write-up.

sea-dweller · 16 January 2009, 11:28 PM

Great info !

Alfred24 · 7 February 2009, 02:03 AM

Great Subs. Thanks for sharing.

anipit · 5 March 2009, 12:08 AM

Beautiful pictures, my 2009 model series M has rolexrolexrolexrolexserialnumberrolexrolex on the ... rehault (sorry if mistake) like the 14060M-COSC Z-series,(Photo courtesy of Mike)

Sorry, a M serial number means 2007/2008 i think.

jimmjames · 11 March 2009, 12:42 AM

the pics of the 14060M make me want one soooooo bad.

The Mantis · 14 March 2009, 11:29 PM

Can one still buy from an AD a 14060M NON-COSC?

jtvision · 16 March 2009, 08:32 PM

I've never been a fan of the NonCSOCs; far too vast looking.

Yoda · 18 March 2009, 08:41 AM

I have a TT sub with black dial and have had it for three years now. All my other Rolex's stay in there pretty boxes as I love this watch some much. I recently took it to St James square for a service and leaving it with the Rolex service agent felt as if I was parting with a kidney!!!!!!!!!!!!

Imtiaz · 21 March 2009, 11:32 PM

The Sub ND 14060M has gone up in price by U$600 in 2 months.

I visited 6 stores in Tokyo today and 4 stores were sold out on new but one had a used F series.

Other 2 had 1 each. Prices are the same as for the Sub date. The model being discontinued makes it all the more popular.

Yes JJ is correct, why is Rolex killing off one of their most popular models?

3266 · 1 April 2009, 06:22 AM

A True Classic!

Butter Hook

The Alpha Beta · 3 April 2009, 06:48 AM

Hey All

Wondered if someone could answer something for me. I have just bought an M series 16610, also have the rolex engravings in the rehaut.

Are there meant to be any serial numbers on the bracelet? I thought I'd seen some on older submariner bracelets, how come there aren't any on my 2009 M model? Should there not be any on there or am I panicking about nothing!

khewett · 6 April 2009, 06:24 PM

Had the same panic on mine, the braclet numbers are on the ends of the solid inks where it joins the case. You will need to remove strap to see them.

The Alpha Beta · 6 April 2009, 06:33 PM

haha brilliant, thanks mate. Yeah it did worry me at first but thanks for confiming - can sleep easy now

superformance · 15 April 2009, 11:26 AM

Mates,

With regards to the 14060M: why is there 2 kinds of dial, one with extra writing of Superlative chronometer officially certified and the other without? Is it about the movement or the year/series?

Sorry for this question for am not that familiar to this model, Im just having interest because I plan to get one so that my 5513 will have an offspring.

TIA for all of you,

SP

3266 · 26 April 2009, 07:40 AM

The two lines of writing on the dial is for the Non COSC (Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified - Rolex talk for Swiss Chronometer).

While the 4 lines of text is for the COSC Version - Contrôle Officiel Suisse des Chronomètres, the Official Swiss Chronometer Testing Institute, which is the institute responsible for certifying the accuracy and precision of wristwatches in Switzerland.

The four lines of text is just a marketing ploy really, since the Explorer I uses the same movement (3030) as the 14060M Non Date Sub and is an Official Swiss Chronometer.

Proving the fact that any Rolex can be made into an Official Chronometer with a bit of tweaking. Not to mention the Fact that this is 'Rolex' we are talking about - So premature failure of the movement is something you need not be to concerned about.

I myself prefer the cleaner and more classic look of the Non COSC - Looks more 007!!!

greekbum · 1 September 2009, 12:01 AM

Submariner

mustangbrad · 5 September 2009, 05:26 PM

Great writeup. That black sub lools nuts. Almost want to buy over an older blue face.

Some Pair · 6 September 2009, 01:40 AM

...and pics as well! Thank you...

btw. JMO, but Lovin'the coloring of my Bluesy all the more now.... Lucky Me.

JohnnyT · 7 September 2009, 01:32 AM

Thanks for the info, I am planning on buy a sub for my first Rolex.

20 January 2008, 11:18 AM	#1
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,502	The Rolex Submariner (current model Pre-2010) Submariner Reference Numbers: Since ~1989; 14060, 14060M, 16610, 16610V, 16613, 16618 Date of production: Modern Sapphire crystal Subs, from mid-1980's into 2010 production year. Weight 14060 - 127 grams 16610 - 135 grams 16613 - 148 grams 16618 - 175 grams As a comparison, the: 1680 - 117 grams Movement: 14060M - Calibre:3130, Jewels:31, Beats per hour:28,800 16610 - Calibre:3135, Jewels:31, 16610V - 3135 16613 - 3135 Power Reserve: Photographs: 14060M: SSSub2 copy.jpg 14060M-COSC Z-series, (Photo courtesy of Mike) 16610 (Photo Courtesy of Mike) 16610 LV-F series-oval O (Photo courtesy of Mike) 16610 LV-D series (Photo courtesy of Mike) V series 16610, LV and LN: IMG_0452 copy.jpg Rolex 3135 Movement: Mvt7Close copy.jpg Links: Rolex Site - Submariner The 3135 Movement __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member Last edited by Tools; 1 April 2010 at 12:39 PM.. Reason: Contributions: Larry, Lol-X, Mike

16 October 2008, 11:59 PM	#4
golfball123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: thailand / m'sia Watch: YG DD & GMT,TT SUB Posts: 1,265	great pics.. especially the yg sub.. __________________ Present Collections TT Date-just, TT Sub. (Bluesy), YG Date-Date, YG GMT IIc (Black dial). SS GMT IIc

16 January 2009, 11:28 PM	#13
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	Great info ! __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

5 March 2009, 12:08 AM	#15
anipit "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Laura Location: Italy Watch: 16610 + 16220 Posts: 385	Beautiful pictures, my 2009 model series M has rolexrolexrolexrolexserialnumberrolexrolex on the ... rehault (sorry if mistake) like the 14060M-COSC Z-series,(Photo courtesy of Mike) Sorry, a M serial number means 2007/2008 i think. __________________ Laura from Italy. 16610 + 16220.

26 April 2009, 07:40 AM	#26
3266 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Dan Location: London Watch: Rolex Posts: 125	Non COSC vs COSC 14060M The two lines of writing on the dial is for the Non COSC (Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified - Rolex talk for Swiss Chronometer). While the 4 lines of text is for the COSC Version - Contrôle Officiel Suisse des Chronomètres, the Official Swiss Chronometer Testing Institute, which is the institute responsible for certifying the accuracy and precision of wristwatches in Switzerland. The four lines of text is just a marketing ploy really, since the Explorer I uses the same movement (3030) as the 14060M Non Date Sub and is an Official Swiss Chronometer. Proving the fact that any Rolex can be made into an Official Chronometer with a bit of tweaking. Not to mention the Fact that this is 'Rolex' we are talking about - So premature failure of the movement is something you need not be to concerned about. I myself prefer the cleaner and more classic look of the Non COSC - Looks more 007!!! __________________ “By the way Mr. Bond. That’s a particular handsome wristwatch your wearing, may I see it?” – Mr. BIG AKA Kananga, Live and Let Die (1973)

16 October 2008, 06:28 PM	#3
tudorwatches "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Suisse Posts: 411	Looking great ! A lot of people were nagging about the blue.. Love it !!

26 October 2008, 01:06 PM	#5
JimC "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Jim Location: Anchorage, Alaska Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,188	Some excellent photos! Thanks, all!

26 October 2008, 01:57 PM	#6
Zman86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 421	I wonder if I'll be able to update the clasp on mine with that one eventually

26 October 2008, 03:17 PM	#8
adr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Malaysia Posts: 185	bravo nice & appealing pictures

30 October 2008, 03:32 PM	#9
Cato Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Land of the Lost Watch: 116610LN Posts: 2,201	Wow, what a classic!

30 October 2008, 03:45 PM	#10
rilu Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: las Posts: 129	awsome pics

14 January 2009, 01:40 PM	#12
hflee55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: Kuala Lumpur, MY Watch: Me Watching You!! Posts: 3,260	Love the Subs....Awesome write-up.

7 February 2009, 02:03 AM	#14
Alfred24 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: St. Croix Posts: 8	Great Subs. Thanks for sharing.

11 March 2009, 12:42 AM	#16
jimmjames Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 16	the pics of the 14060M make me want one soooooo bad.

14 March 2009, 11:29 PM	#17
The Mantis Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: PA Watch: Sub 14060 Posts: 50	Can one still buy from an AD a 14060M NON-COSC?

16 March 2009, 08:32 PM	#18
jtvision Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver Watch: Seiko to Rolex Posts: 225	I've never been a fan of the NonCSOCs; far too vast looking.

18 March 2009, 08:41 AM	#19
Yoda Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: London Watch: PP AP RM Posts: 794	I have a TT sub with black dial and have had it for three years now. All my other Rolex's stay in there pretty boxes as I love this watch some much. I recently took it to St James square for a service and leaving it with the Rolex service agent felt as if I was parting with a kidney!!!!!!!!!!!!

21 March 2009, 11:32 PM	#20
Imtiaz Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: De Location: Tokyo Watch: Daytona, Sub, DS, Posts: 1,046	The Sub ND 14060M has gone up in price by U$600 in 2 months. I visited 6 stores in Tokyo today and 4 stores were sold out on new but one had a used F series. Other 2 had 1 each. Prices are the same as for the Sub date. The model being discontinued makes it all the more popular. Yes JJ is correct, why is Rolex killing off one of their most popular models?

1 April 2009, 06:22 AM	#21
3266 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Dan Location: London Watch: Rolex Posts: 125	A True Classic! Butter Hook

3 April 2009, 06:48 AM	#22
The Alpha Beta Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: London Watch: 16610 Posts: 45	Hey All Wondered if someone could answer something for me. I have just bought an M series 16610, also have the rolex engravings in the rehaut. Are there meant to be any serial numbers on the bracelet? I thought I'd seen some on older submariner bracelets, how come there aren't any on my 2009 M model? Should there not be any on there or am I panicking about nothing!

6 April 2009, 06:24 PM	#23
khewett "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Posts: 3	Had the same panic on mine, the braclet numbers are on the ends of the solid inks where it joins the case. You will need to remove strap to see them.

6 April 2009, 06:33 PM	#24
The Alpha Beta Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: London Watch: 16610 Posts: 45	haha brilliant, thanks mate. Yeah it did worry me at first but thanks for confiming - can sleep easy now

15 April 2009, 11:26 AM	#25
superformance "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Solomon Location: Islas de Filipina Watch: 16=55/65/80s Posts: 110	Mates, With regards to the 14060M: why is there 2 kinds of dial, one with extra writing of Superlative chronometer officially certified and the other without? Is it about the movement or the year/series? Sorry for this question for am not that familiar to this model, Im just having interest because I plan to get one so that my 5513 will have an offspring. TIA for all of you, SP

5 September 2009, 05:26 PM	#28
mustangbrad Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: brad Location: il Watch: 16613 Posts: 286	Great writeup. That black sub lools nuts. Almost want to buy over an older blue face.

6 September 2009, 01:40 AM	#29
Some Pair Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Rick Location: seFl.byWayOfBklyn Watch: The Rollie's..... Posts: 609	Great Info.... ...and pics as well! Thank you... btw. JMO, but Lovin'the coloring of my Bluesy all the more now.... Lucky Me.

7 September 2009, 01:32 AM	#30
JohnnyT "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 10	Thanks for the info, I am planning on buy a sub for my first Rolex.

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