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nymsportf30 · 8 July 2013, 06:12 AM

So my fiancee and I were at a AD on Long Island the other day, We are looking for a datejust 31mm with fluted bezel, mop with diamond marker dial. He had one in stock with a oyster band, but my fiancee really wants a jubilee band. When we told him this he stated that people in the rolex community refer to the jubilee as the "seiko" band but told us he would order us whichever style band we wanted. So was this a ploy by him to just try and sell us what he had in stock?

GradyPhilpott · 8 July 2013, 06:17 AM

Sadly, that's just a sales gimmick to get you to buy what's in stock.

I personally would go to another AD, just for spite.

Seiko band, indeed.

Rolex invented the Jubilee bracelet.

kieselguhr · 8 July 2013, 06:19 AM

"He" as in the sale's representative?
In which case he will say whatever he wants to sell you a product.
I can see why he would say something like that. I have seen the Seiko DJ "homages".

impalass · 8 July 2013, 06:21 AM

I agree with Grady, just a cheap ploy, and if I'm not mistaken Rolex pioneered the Jubilee bracelet many years before Seiko copied it.

superdog · 8 July 2013, 06:25 AM

i would absolutely not buy from that guy/store.

he just showed you that he is not trustworthy. when you are spending that type of money, you need to be able to trust your vendor.

Baco Noir · 8 July 2013, 06:28 AM

What a crock. I think the Jubilee is the best looking band for that watch. I'd take my business elsewhere - like the TRF FS section! Better prices, and more knowledgeable sales people BY FAR.

gas_electric · 8 July 2013, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by superdog

i would absolutely not buy from that guy/store.

he just showed you that he is not trustworthy. when you are spending that type of money, you need to be able to trust your vendor.

Yep... Always buy the seller! The seller in your scenario is either showing lack of knowledge (bad) or lack of honesty (also bad).

Jocke · 8 July 2013, 06:32 AM

Just send a letter to Rolex HQ and ask if their AD selling Seiko band to their Rolex watches.

Urosfan · 8 July 2013, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by nymsportf30

So my fiancee and I were at a AD on Long Island the other day, We are looking for a datejust 31mm with fluted bezel, mop with diamond marker dial. He had one in stock with a oyster band, but my fiancee really wants a jubilee band. When we told him this he stated that people in the rolex community refer to the jubilee as the "seiko" band but told us he would order us whichever style band we wanted. So was this a ploy by him to just try and sell us what he had in stock?

Typical hardup salesmanship, what dealer was this may I ask

kilyung · 8 July 2013, 07:04 AM

Buy somewhere else.

MonBK · 8 July 2013, 07:08 AM

What a Rolex AD says and my cat poops I put in the same pile.

Kobayashi · 8 July 2013, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

What a Rolex AD says and my cat poops I put in the same pile.

Now that is signature material

MonBK · 8 July 2013, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kobayashi

Now that is signature material

It's copyrighted.

nymsportf30 · 8 July 2013, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kieselguhr

"He" as in the sale's representative?
In which case he will say whatever he wants to sell you a product.
I can see why he would say something like that. I have seen the Seiko DJ "homages".

Yes the sale's rep. I figured I would get this response from everyone here, My fiancee and I felt the same way, so we just smiled and walked out lol.

anothernewphone · 8 July 2013, 07:16 AM

That's a pretty lousy attempt to get your to buy what they had in store. I love the jubilee and would always prefer it over an oyster on the DJ.

Trouble15 · 8 July 2013, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Buy somewhere else.

x2

Mystro · 8 July 2013, 07:25 AM

There is about as much guarantee of a clerk with integrity at a Rolex dealer as you might find at a car lot.

kieselguhr · 8 July 2013, 07:30 AM

I would call TRF a solid Rolex Community. I have never seen anyone refer to the Jubilee as a "Seiko band".
I bet he was arrogant too!

Thebiglagu · 8 July 2013, 07:44 AM

Not cool!

badgtho · 8 July 2013, 07:54 AM

Rolex invented the jubilee. I would actually say that the jubilee clad date just I the most commonly copied watch design out there.

landroverking · 8 July 2013, 08:25 AM

The guys an A$$.

Hairdude1 · 8 July 2013, 08:30 AM

Take your business elsewhere

jctrolex · 8 July 2013, 08:43 AM

I am looking at the exact same watch for my wife and the jubilee bracelet wins hands down in that combination. My AD had it with the oyster and the salesman agrees with me. He offered to switch the bracelet from another watch for me or order me a new watch, no pressure either way. Since I am in no rush I had him order one. I always go to the same AD and ask for one of the same two salesmen. They are always courteous, knowledgeable, gives an honest opinion, no pressure and no BS. That's why they get my business. Oh and they always give me the best discount without m asking.
I wouldn't buy anything from that guy if I have to go to the next state to find a watch. If he can't be honest with the sale what is he go

jctrolex · 8 July 2013, 08:45 AM

i was looking at the exact same watch for my wife and the jubilee bracelet wins hands down in that combination. My AD had it with the oyster and the salesman agrees with me. He offered to switch the bracelet from another watch for me or order me a new watch, no pressure either way. Since I am in no rush I had him order one. I always go to the same AD and ask for one of the same two salesmen. They are always courteous, knowledgeable, gives an honest opinion, no pressure and no BS. That's why they get my business. Oh and they always give me the best discount without me ever asking.
I wouldn't buy anything from that guy if I have to go to the next state to find a watch. If he can't be honest with the sale what is he going to be like when you need service?

jctrolex · 8 July 2013, 08:47 AM

Sorry double post, those dang little buttons

Chainring · 8 July 2013, 08:48 AM

Sad sales technique. I hope you went elswhere.

DCgator · 8 July 2013, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hairdude1

Take your business elsewhere

.... and make it a point to tell that sales person that is what you're going to do before leaving the store. It'll make his day.

nymsportf30 · 8 July 2013, 09:11 AM

Jctrolex it's a beautiful watch isn't it. I will absolutely be taking my bussiness somewhere else not only is it a pore sales technique It's like he though we were fools!

mailman · 8 July 2013, 09:12 AM

I'd contact a trusted seller here and buy from them

Boopie · 8 July 2013, 09:23 AM

He is, essentially, putting down one of Rolex's most popular products.

8 July 2013, 06:12 AM	#1
nymsportf30 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: New York Watch: Breitling Cronomat Posts: 543	Remarks made by an AD So my fiancee and I were at a AD on Long Island the other day, We are looking for a datejust 31mm with fluted bezel, mop with diamond marker dial. He had one in stock with a oyster band, but my fiancee really wants a jubilee band. When we told him this he stated that people in the rolex community refer to the jubilee as the "seiko" band but told us he would order us whichever style band we wanted. So was this a ploy by him to just try and sell us what he had in stock?

8 July 2013, 06:17 AM	#2
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK047 Posts: 34,460	Sadly, that's just a sales gimmick to get you to buy what's in stock. I personally would go to another AD, just for spite. Seiko band, indeed. Rolex invented the Jubilee bracelet. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

8 July 2013, 06:25 AM	#5
superdog 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Seth Location: nj Watch: Omega Posts: 24,834	i would absolutely not buy from that guy/store. he just showed you that he is not trustworthy. when you are spending that type of money, you need to be able to trust your vendor. __________________ If happiness is a state of mind, why look anywhere else for it? IG: gsmotorclub IG: thesawcollection (Both mostly just car stuff)

8 July 2013, 06:28 AM	#6
Baco Noir "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Roger Location: Colorado Watch: this ya'll Posts: 4,973	What a crock. I think the Jubilee is the best looking band for that watch. I'd take my business elsewhere - like the TRF FS section! Better prices, and more knowledgeable sales people BY FAR. __________________ Current Collection: Rolex 126619LB, 116710BLNR, and 216570 polar Explorer II; Omega Apollo 8 Speedmaster and Planet Ocean 42; Tudor BB Bronze Bucherer Blue Edition; Nomos Neomatik 42; Breitling Aerospace, Avenger Blackbird, & SuperOcean 44; Doxa 300 Pro Carbon; Stowa Limette; Laco Napa Flieger; Mickey Mouse Timex Electric; and dare I say it...an Apple Watch too

8 July 2013, 06:32 AM	#8
Jocke 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,541	Just send a letter to Rolex HQ and ask if their AD selling Seiko band to their Rolex watches. __________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

8 July 2013, 06:19 AM	#3
kieselguhr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Nick Location: Las Vegas Watch: 1601 Posts: 10,623	"He" as in the sale's representative? In which case he will say whatever he wants to sell you a product. I can see why he would say something like that. I have seen the Seiko DJ "homages".

8 July 2013, 06:21 AM	#4
impalass "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: Toronto, Canada. Watch: SD / LV / Daytona Posts: 2,089	I agree with Grady, just a cheap ploy, and if I'm not mistaken Rolex pioneered the Jubilee bracelet many years before Seiko copied it.

8 July 2013, 07:04 AM	#10
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Buy somewhere else.

8 July 2013, 07:08 AM	#11
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	What a Rolex AD says and my cat poops I put in the same pile.

8 July 2013, 07:16 AM	#15
anothernewphone Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Bill Location: Plymouth Meeting Watch: 116520 Posts: 3,209	That's a pretty lousy attempt to get your to buy what they had in store. I love the jubilee and would always prefer it over an oyster on the DJ.

8 July 2013, 07:25 AM	#17
Mystro 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: The Mystro ;) Location: Central Pa. Posts: 15,514	There is about as much guarantee of a clerk with integrity at a Rolex dealer as you might find at a car lot. __________________

8 July 2013, 07:30 AM	#18
kieselguhr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Nick Location: Las Vegas Watch: 1601 Posts: 10,623	I would call TRF a solid Rolex Community. I have never seen anyone refer to the Jubilee as a "Seiko band". I bet he was arrogant too!

8 July 2013, 07:44 AM	#19
Thebiglagu "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: Tommy Location: New jersey Watch: Rolex 16610 Posts: 457	Not cool!

8 July 2013, 07:54 AM	#20
badgtho "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CT Posts: 274	Rolex invented the jubilee. I would actually say that the jubilee clad date just I the most commonly copied watch design out there. __________________ 16610 Sub 1601 Datejust PAM 000 CA1215 Formula 1 Chrono Etc...

8 July 2013, 08:25 AM	#21
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	The guys an A$$.

8 July 2013, 08:30 AM	#22
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	Take your business elsewhere

8 July 2013, 08:43 AM	#23
jctrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Canada Watch: 1675 Posts: 1,163	I am looking at the exact same watch for my wife and the jubilee bracelet wins hands down in that combination. My AD had it with the oyster and the salesman agrees with me. He offered to switch the bracelet from another watch for me or order me a new watch, no pressure either way. Since I am in no rush I had him order one. I always go to the same AD and ask for one of the same two salesmen. They are always courteous, knowledgeable, gives an honest opinion, no pressure and no BS. That's why they get my business. Oh and they always give me the best discount without m asking. I wouldn't buy anything from that guy if I have to go to the next state to find a watch. If he can't be honest with the sale what is he go

8 July 2013, 08:45 AM	#24
jctrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Canada Watch: 1675 Posts: 1,163	i was looking at the exact same watch for my wife and the jubilee bracelet wins hands down in that combination. My AD had it with the oyster and the salesman agrees with me. He offered to switch the bracelet from another watch for me or order me a new watch, no pressure either way. Since I am in no rush I had him order one. I always go to the same AD and ask for one of the same two salesmen. They are always courteous, knowledgeable, gives an honest opinion, no pressure and no BS. That's why they get my business. Oh and they always give me the best discount without me ever asking. I wouldn't buy anything from that guy if I have to go to the next state to find a watch. If he can't be honest with the sale what is he going to be like when you need service?

8 July 2013, 08:47 AM	#25
jctrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Canada Watch: 1675 Posts: 1,163	Sorry double post, those dang little buttons

8 July 2013, 08:48 AM	#26
Chainring "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: Grand Junction CO Watch: A few, not enough. Posts: 1,725	Sad sales technique. I hope you went elswhere.

8 July 2013, 09:11 AM	#28
nymsportf30 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: New York Watch: Breitling Cronomat Posts: 543	Jctrolex it's a beautiful watch isn't it. I will absolutely be taking my bussiness somewhere else not only is it a pore sales technique It's like he though we were fools!

8 July 2013, 09:12 AM	#29
mailman TRF Moderator & SubLV41 2024 Patron Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: . Watch: 126610LN Posts: 35,510	I'd contact a trusted seller here and buy from them __________________ JJ

8 July 2013, 09:23 AM	#30
Boopie "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Beverly Hills, CA Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 3,952	He is, essentially, putting down one of Rolex's most popular products.

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