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Watchcentric · 25 July 2013, 06:23 PM

Hello,

I'm interested in buying a Daytona 116509 White Gold with Silver Dial.

I tried one out recently at my AD and I noticed that the markers at 3, 6 and 9 are much smaller (about half of the size!) of the markers of the same watch on the Rolex website.

I have included pictures of both watches. I noticed the same differences when looking at some 116509's on chrono24.

Can someone please enlighten me about these dial differences?

Is the dial with the small 3, 6 and 9 markers an older dial? If so, I would be surprised as the AD where I tried the watch sells a lot of Rolexes so I expect him to carry only the latest models.

On the other hand, the Rolex website should have the latest watches pictured as well...

Is there somewhere an overview of all (historical) Daytona dials??

Thanks!

Daytona-Dan · 25 July 2013, 09:55 PM

I can't say I've ever noticed but I believe the images on rolex.com are all photoshop touch-ups so I wouldn't take what you see there too seriously.

For example: This is the real dial:

And this is the one on the rolex.com website, they look very different.
It almost looks cartoon like:

77T · 25 July 2013, 10:04 PM

No difference in the current era Daytona silver dials - just differences in picture exposure from different websites.

Watchcentric · 25 July 2013, 10:50 PM

Thanks for the replies, but I'm sure it's not due to exposure differences or because of photoshop touch-ups.

Below are two real life photo's from chrono24 where you can clearly see the difference again in the 3, 6 and 9 mark sizes.

Who was some insights into these changes? Could it be that we have to do with fake Daytona silver dials? Would be a major issue imo, ie some AD's would sell fake Daytona's (or at least with fake dials?).

Thanks in advance

nickng · 25 July 2013, 11:00 PM

Couldn't find any difference between mine either.

Manofsteelpt · 26 July 2013, 01:33 AM

What serial prefix is the one you tried on (with the smaller hour markers)? I believe that is a slightly older serial... I thought they started the larger markers with the V serials, maybe late M's.

Edit: does it have the older styled clasp?

Manofsteelpt · 26 July 2013, 01:36 AM

Also, it's not uncommon for a watch like that to sit around for a cpl yrs. If it were me, I would like a hefty discount on it, or ask for a new Random serial.

PerioBear · 28 July 2013, 03:59 AM

Since reading this post I've looked at some of the WG Daytona photos that I have and I agree that in some models the 3, 6 and 9 markers are either square or rectangular. I'm not sure which is older but the difference is noticeable. Now I'm also interested in knowing which is older, etc. Anyone?

normandy · 28 July 2013, 04:19 AM

Yes, older dial has smaller size markers at 3, 6, 9

Older dial

Newer dial

Furbo · 28 July 2013, 06:12 AM

Very interesting, so this is daytona's version of maxidial :)

Nycturbovr6 · 28 July 2013, 06:57 AM

I love it

ecsub44 · 28 July 2013, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daytona-Dan

I can't say I've ever noticed but I believe the images on rolex.com are all photoshop touch-ups so I wouldn't take what you see there too seriously.

For example: This is the real dial:

And this is the one on the rolex.com website, they look very different.
It almost looks cartoon like:

What looks different?

ecsub44 · 28 July 2013, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecsub44

What looks different?

Ok..the bezel is different.

And yours has stickers.

Otherwise, they look the same to me.

watchwatcher · 28 July 2013, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by normandy

Yes, older dial has smaller size markers at 3, 6, 9

Older dial

Newer dial

I think I'm in love. Oh my.

Daytona-Dan · 28 July 2013, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecsub44

Ok..the bezel is different.

And yours has stickers.

Otherwise, they look the same to me.

You are talking about specifics, I'm talking about the fact that the Rolex images are touched up and look like artist renditions. All rolex.com images look almost like cartoon drawings. If you don't see it, I guess you never will so just ignore my post

Billywiz · 28 July 2013, 02:11 PM

The number make the dial very busy...prefer the stick dials.

Watchcentric · 29 July 2013, 07:15 AM

Thanks for solving this mystery!;)

Any idea about when the change to the new dial took place? Did anything else change on/in the watch change or was it just that small 'marker' change?

25 July 2013, 06:23 PM	#1
Watchcentric "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NL Posts: 115	Daytona mystery - Did the silver dial recently change??? Hello, I'm interested in buying a Daytona 116509 White Gold with Silver Dial. I tried one out recently at my AD and I noticed that the markers at 3, 6 and 9 are much smaller (about half of the size!) of the markers of the same watch on the Rolex website. I have included pictures of both watches. I noticed the same differences when looking at some 116509's on chrono24. Can someone please enlighten me about these dial differences? Is the dial with the small 3, 6 and 9 markers an older dial? If so, I would be surprised as the AD where I tried the watch sells a lot of Rolexes so I expect him to carry only the latest models. On the other hand, the Rolex website should have the latest watches pictured as well... Is there somewhere an overview of all (historical) Daytona dials?? Thanks!

25 July 2013, 09:55 PM	#2
Daytona-Dan Banned Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Dan Location: UK Watch: 116528 Posts: 1,049	I can't say I've ever noticed but I believe the images on rolex.com are all photoshop touch-ups so I wouldn't take what you see there too seriously. For example: This is the real dial: And this is the one on the rolex.com website, they look very different. It almost looks cartoon like: Attached Images

25 July 2013, 10:04 PM	#3
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,017	No difference in the current era Daytona silver dials - just differences in picture exposure from different websites. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

25 July 2013, 10:50 PM	#4
Watchcentric "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NL Posts: 115	New real life photo's to illustrate Daytona dial mystery Thanks for the replies, but I'm sure it's not due to exposure differences or because of photoshop touch-ups. Below are two real life photo's from chrono24 where you can clearly see the difference again in the 3, 6 and 9 mark sizes. Who was some insights into these changes? Could it be that we have to do with fake Daytona silver dials? Would be a major issue imo, ie some AD's would sell fake Daytona's (or at least with fake dials?). Thanks in advance

25 July 2013, 11:00 PM	#5
nickng "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: NickN Location: Singapore Watch: Rolex Posts: 524	Couldn't find any difference between mine either. __________________ NickN

26 July 2013, 01:33 AM	#6
Manofsteelpt "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,971	What serial prefix is the one you tried on (with the smaller hour markers)? I believe that is a slightly older serial... I thought they started the larger markers with the V serials, maybe late M's. Edit: does it have the older styled clasp?

26 July 2013, 01:36 AM	#7
Manofsteelpt "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,971	Also, it's not uncommon for a watch like that to sit around for a cpl yrs. If it were me, I would like a hefty discount on it, or ask for a new Random serial.

28 July 2013, 03:59 AM	#8
PerioBear "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 763	Since reading this post I've looked at some of the WG Daytona photos that I have and I agree that in some models the 3, 6 and 9 markers are either square or rectangular. I'm not sure which is older but the difference is noticeable. Now I'm also interested in knowing which is older, etc. Anyone?

28 July 2013, 04:19 AM	#9
normandy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Dominic Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,183	Yes, older dial has smaller size markers at 3, 6, 9 Older dial Newer dial

28 July 2013, 06:12 AM	#10
Furbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Slovenia, EU Watch: BLNR Posts: 1,507	Very interesting, so this is daytona's version of maxidial :)

28 July 2013, 06:57 AM	#11
Nycturbovr6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New York Posts: 7,630	I love it

28 July 2013, 02:11 PM	#16
Billywiz Banned Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: John Location: Florida Watch: YG President Posts: 2,090	The number make the dial very busy...prefer the stick dials.

29 July 2013, 07:15 AM	#17
Watchcentric "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NL Posts: 115	Thanks for solving this mystery!;) Any idea about when the change to the new dial took place? Did anything else change on/in the watch change or was it just that small 'marker' change?

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