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greekbum · 17 September 2013, 02:00 PM

I have been asked by a few about this watch in the past week and my observations are as follows
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-7928-Ro...item5af51eb35f

1.Fake (aftermarket) bracelet and end pieces with a USA made Rolex clasp. Although this seller usually gives great descriptions they seem to have danced around the bracelet issue......

2. Fake (Aftermarket bezel insert)

3. Then there is the dial in the Destro configuration. IMHO not original and only way to have made this work is to cut off the dial feet and glue it on or refinish the dial so the dial feet are in the right position. This is something that is of great importance and is omitted in the description.

Lgear080 · 17 September 2013, 02:25 PM

I agree on all points and have a few majors myself.
The terrible relume is unfortunate too.

It's a real disappointment to see this great seller try
To pawn off a piece w so many issues. I've gotten some
Really interesting stuff from Hess / old north over the
Years.

tudorman8276 · 17 September 2013, 03:58 PM

...Greek is spot on about the dial!

...looks like Anna has been at it again.

"HESSFINE's ROLEX SALES ARE GUARANTEED TO BE GENUINE"

"Described by: Anna"

"Description: The head dates to 1961 and the bracelet dates to 1973. All are genuine."

Goiguidoc · 17 September 2013, 04:11 PM

Interesting piece...
Totally agree with the above.
The dial doesn't look like a refinished one (despite terrible relume).
I vote for the 'feet cut off' solution , which makes the watch worthless IMHO.

crowncollection · 17 September 2013, 07:31 PM

I agree with the above, not good

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Lgear080 · 17 September 2013, 09:21 PM

I've personally met them before ... An interesting bunch.
Impressive estate stuff some of the time.

springer · 18 September 2013, 04:26 AM

This watch was listed by Anna Hess who, in my opinion, knows so little about Rolex and Tudor that she shouldn't be let anywhere near a keyboard to list items on ebay - unless of course she does know better. It is really a shame that this continues to happen with hessfineauctions.

As evidence, look no further than this Tudor description provided by Anna Hess, who stated that this dial might be relumed. My question to her is - if this dial hasn't been relumed, what the hell happened to it, not to mention all of the other comments in this thread regarding this watch.

Frankly, I believe Anna Hess learned her trade well from the master himself. These misleading, deceitful auctions are shameful, downright disgusting and again, shameful.

springer · 20 September 2013, 11:20 AM

Greek, I went back and looked at this again after talking with you. That bracelet is the "bomb" of all bracelets. How the hell can she call that "original." That has more cobbled together parts than anything I've seen in many years. Mr. Hess should stay home more and take care of these listing issues.

Lgear080 · 20 September 2013, 12:34 PM

As a side note I argued with them vigorously over a watch I purchased
From them (non-rolex) that was stated as being broken, yet repairable
By a watchmaker. Ultimately the watch was not repairable, and would
Have req'd a replacement movement. I got a great deal from a scrap
standpoint, And decided not to file a PayPal claim. Def caveat emptor
With them. They are not pleasant via email on any level either.

Totally different story in person.

springer · 20 September 2013, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lgear080

As a side note I argued with them vigorously over a watch I purchased
From them (non-rolex) that was stated as being broken, yet repairable
By a watchmaker. Ultimately the watch was not repairable, and would
Have req'd a replacement movement. I got a great deal from a scrap
standpoint, And decided not to file a PayPal claim. Def caveat emptor
With them. They are not pleasant via email on any level either.

Totally different story in person.

You should read some of his responses here on the forum!!! You pretty much nailed it.

Lgear080 · 20 September 2013, 05:58 PM

Huh.... Somehow I missed the posts. What's the username they communicated with?

RolexWatcher · 20 September 2013, 11:39 PM

hessfineauctions - they are known to be deceptive and misleading in their ads. Lots of posts about them in TRF.

springer · 21 September 2013, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lgear080

Huh.... Somehow I missed the posts. What's the username they communicated with?

Go to the thread below. One of my posts contains a link to other auctions from hessfineauctions that have been discussed here in the past.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...12949#poststop

jatco · 22 September 2013, 03:50 AM

...and it sold for $4722.00 with 56 bids.... !
I guess the buyer isnt a member of TRF...

17 September 2013, 02:00 PM	#1
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,418	Tudor 7928 ebay I have been asked by a few about this watch in the past week and my observations are as follows http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-7928-Ro...item5af51eb35f 1.Fake (aftermarket) bracelet and end pieces with a USA made Rolex clasp. Although this seller usually gives great descriptions they seem to have danced around the bracelet issue...... 2. Fake (Aftermarket bezel insert) 3. Then there is the dial in the Destro configuration. IMHO not original and only way to have made this work is to cut off the dial feet and glue it on or refinish the dial so the dial feet are in the right position. This is something that is of great importance and is omitted in the description. __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

17 September 2013, 03:58 PM	#3
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...hmmmm...here we go again... ...Greek is spot on about the dial! ...looks like Anna has been at it again. "HESSFINE's ROLEX SALES ARE GUARANTEED TO BE GENUINE" "Described by: Anna" "Description: The head dates to 1961 and the bracelet dates to 1973. All are genuine."

17 September 2013, 07:31 PM	#5
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	I agree with the above, not good Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free __________________ watches many

18 September 2013, 04:26 AM	#7
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	This watch was listed by Anna Hess who, in my opinion, knows so little about Rolex and Tudor that she shouldn't be let anywhere near a keyboard to list items on ebay - unless of course she does know better. It is really a shame that this continues to happen with hessfineauctions. As evidence, look no further than this Tudor description provided by Anna Hess, who stated that this dial might be relumed. My question to her is - if this dial hasn't been relumed, what the hell happened to it, not to mention all of the other comments in this thread regarding this watch. Frankly, I believe Anna Hess learned her trade well from the master himself. These misleading, deceitful auctions are shameful, downright disgusting and again, shameful. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

20 September 2013, 11:20 AM	#8
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	Greek, I went back and looked at this again after talking with you. That bracelet is the "bomb" of all bracelets. How the hell can she call that "original." That has more cobbled together parts than anything I've seen in many years. Mr. Hess should stay home more and take care of these listing issues. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

17 September 2013, 02:25 PM	#2
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	I agree on all points and have a few majors myself. The terrible relume is unfortunate too. It's a real disappointment to see this great seller try To pawn off a piece w so many issues. I've gotten some Really interesting stuff from Hess / old north over the Years.

17 September 2013, 04:11 PM	#4
Goiguidoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: Europe Watch: Rolex vintage Posts: 1,062	Interesting piece... Totally agree with the above. The dial doesn't look like a refinished one (despite terrible relume). I vote for the 'feet cut off' solution , which makes the watch worthless IMHO.

17 September 2013, 09:21 PM	#6
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	I've personally met them before ... An interesting bunch. Impressive estate stuff some of the time.

20 September 2013, 12:34 PM	#9
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	As a side note I argued with them vigorously over a watch I purchased From them (non-rolex) that was stated as being broken, yet repairable By a watchmaker. Ultimately the watch was not repairable, and would Have req'd a replacement movement. I got a great deal from a scrap standpoint, And decided not to file a PayPal claim. Def caveat emptor With them. They are not pleasant via email on any level either. Totally different story in person.

20 September 2013, 05:58 PM	#11
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Huh.... Somehow I missed the posts. What's the username they communicated with?

20 September 2013, 11:39 PM	#12
RolexWatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Vincent Location: LON HKG SYD Posts: 1,236	hessfineauctions - they are known to be deceptive and misleading in their ads. Lots of posts about them in TRF.

22 September 2013, 03:50 AM	#14
jatco 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Thomas Location: YVR Watch: 116233/79190 Posts: 50,551	...and it sold for $4722.00 with 56 bids.... ! I guess the buyer isnt a member of TRF... __________________ . ..- ' A Crown for every achievement '

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