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Hatchet · 12 February 2008, 12:24 PM

What do you guys estimate just the cosmetic repairs on this watch would run? That poor bracelet is a mess.

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gaijin1 · 12 February 2008, 02:57 PM

OK, this is a SWAG (Silly, Wild-a**ed Guess) based on the recent service of my 18K GMT Master 16758 at RSC New York:

- Factory movement service, gaskets & water/pressure test
$495.00

- Refinish case and bracelet
$0.00

- New dial (you may not want to do this in this case)
$225.00

- New sapphire crystal
$90.00

- New winding crown, monobloc
$78.00

- New bezel
$51.00

- New case tube
$45.00

- New pair yellow gold hands
$42.00

- New yellow gold second hand
$21.00

- New 24 hour hand
$21.00

Total for a watch that will look and perform as new: $1,068.00 with new dial, $843.00 with the old dial.

My guess on the bracelet is that pins would be replaced as necessary for a nominal additional cost.

HTH

SPACE-DWELLER · 12 February 2008, 06:54 PM

IMHO, nothing much has to be or MUST be done to a watch like this one:

Firstly, NEVER touch that dial or the hands, or exchange it/them! An exchange of the dial and hands would destroy the collector's value of the watch. I'd leave the bezel alone, too.

A saphire crystal can NOT be added to the watch since it has a plexi crystal.

Yes, the bracelet is a mess. I'd have classiswatchparts.com refurbish it.

Probably, RSC would not touch the watch (too old), so I would have it serviced by an independant RSC like RSC San Francisco.

Price: approx. the "standard" 500 US $. On top of that comes the price for refurbishing the bracelet.

BTW: It's a GMT, not a Sub.

mike · 12 February 2008, 08:44 PM

Well,..As stated a basic service will be in the area of $500 USD. Whether RSC will take it or not is a simple phone call, if not one of the Independents in either Chicago or San Fransisco is another choice. Also consider a good private watchmaker.

The hands are shot. I would replace them. In fact I'd probably have the case polished. The real issue is the bracelet. I thought a new TT jubliee was in the area of 2K.

An alternative some collectors use is a nice leather strap.

padi56 · 12 February 2008, 08:51 PM

Have to agree with Mike pity it was not S.Steel GMT.

BLSampson · 13 February 2008, 02:23 AM

I recommend you find one in better condition and pay a little more for it as opposed to not knowing what you are getting into with this one. I know of a place that gets these on a regular basis.

Tools · 13 February 2008, 02:54 AM

Watch reconstruction or rescue is a hobby of passion..

If you take on the job of rescuing this very excellent GMT, the inner rewards are worth something..

Even if you set the value at 4 to 5,000, and it costs you a thou to refurbish and another 2 thou for a new bracelet, plus initial cost....won't it feel good....won't you have something of yourself invested in the final product..

If you are a businessman, and you want a quick return....it may not be worth it..

If you are a hobbyist, or enthusiast....go for it...You won't be able to wipe the smile off your face for weeks...

12 February 2008, 12:24 PM	#1
Hatchet "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 444	For your discussion--68 Sub--rough condition What do you guys estimate just the cosmetic repairs on this watch would run? That poor bracelet is a mess. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=011 __________________ And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice. --Carl Spackler in Caddyshack

12 February 2008, 06:54 PM	#3
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	IMHO, nothing much has to be or MUST be done to a watch like this one: Firstly, NEVER touch that dial or the hands, or exchange it/them! An exchange of the dial and hands would destroy the collector's value of the watch. I'd leave the bezel alone, too. A saphire crystal can NOT be added to the watch since it has a plexi crystal. Yes, the bracelet is a mess. I'd have classiswatchparts.com refurbish it. Probably, RSC would not touch the watch (too old), so I would have it serviced by an independant RSC like RSC San Francisco. Price: approx. the "standard" 500 US $. On top of that comes the price for refurbishing the bracelet. BTW: It's a GMT, not a Sub. __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

12 February 2008, 08:51 PM	#5
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,063	Have to agree with Mike pity it was not S.Steel GMT. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

13 February 2008, 02:23 AM	#6
BLSampson "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bryan Location: Kansas City, MO Watch: TT Blue Submariner Posts: 930	I recommend you find one in better condition and pay a little more for it as opposed to not knowing what you are getting into with this one. I know of a place that gets these on a regular basis. __________________ Yoboman "People sleep safely in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

13 February 2008, 02:54 AM	#7
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Watch reconstruction or rescue is a hobby of passion.. If you take on the job of rescuing this very excellent GMT, the inner rewards are worth something.. Even if you set the value at 4 to 5,000, and it costs you a thou to refurbish and another 2 thou for a new bracelet, plus initial cost....won't it feel good....won't you have something of yourself invested in the final product.. If you are a businessman, and you want a quick return....it may not be worth it.. If you are a hobbyist, or enthusiast....go for it...You won't be able to wipe the smile off your face for weeks... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

12 February 2008, 02:57 PM	#2
gaijin1 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA Posts: 32	OK, this is a SWAG (Silly, Wild-a**ed Guess) based on the recent service of my 18K GMT Master 16758 at RSC New York: - Factory movement service, gaskets & water/pressure test $495.00 - Refinish case and bracelet $0.00 - New dial (you may not want to do this in this case) $225.00 - New sapphire crystal $90.00 - New winding crown, monobloc $78.00 - New bezel $51.00 - New case tube $45.00 - New pair yellow gold hands $42.00 - New yellow gold second hand $21.00 - New 24 hour hand $21.00 Total for a watch that will look and perform as new: $1,068.00 with new dial, $843.00 with the old dial. My guess on the bracelet is that pins would be replaced as necessary for a nominal additional cost. HTH

12 February 2008, 08:44 PM	#4
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Well,..As stated a basic service will be in the area of $500 USD. Whether RSC will take it or not is a simple phone call, if not one of the Independents in either Chicago or San Fransisco is another choice. Also consider a good private watchmaker. The hands are shot. I would replace them. In fact I'd probably have the case polished. The real issue is the bracelet. I thought a new TT jubliee was in the area of 2K. An alternative some collectors use is a nice leather strap.

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