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Old 16 January 2014, 08:43 AM   #1
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AP price rise - did it actually happen

I was under the impression that the price rise was due 2nd jan, but looking at online ADs here in the UK (watch gallery) it doesn't seem to have happened...can anyone confirm if any ADs have bumped the price up?
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Old 16 January 2014, 08:55 AM   #2
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Dealer margins went down, retail stayed the same. Also mainstays like the Panda, Safari have been subjected to lower production runs.


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Old 16 January 2014, 09:03 AM   #3
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I was in watch gallery Saturday and was told any time now for price increase
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Old 16 January 2014, 09:20 AM   #4
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Yes prices gone up in the UK, RGRC is now £29700, RG 44 mm is £34400 and SS 44 mm is £24400.
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Old 16 January 2014, 10:55 AM   #5
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Yes, it went up at my local AD. I was there at lunch break for some eye candies
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Old 16 January 2014, 11:27 AM   #6
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Have only seen steel pieces so far but it looked like a $400 dollar increase on royal oaks.
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Old 16 January 2014, 11:47 AM   #7
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Prices in Sydney AD has gone up since 2nd Jan. ROO Panda, Safari, Navy are up by AU$1,000. Not sure about other APs
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Old 16 January 2014, 12:46 PM   #8
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Dealer margins went down, retail stayed the same. Also mainstays like the Panda, Safari have been subjected to lower production runs.


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Old 16 January 2014, 01:35 PM   #9
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Yup,in Sydney. Ap,diver up by circa 1500 according to AD.
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Old 16 January 2014, 03:38 PM   #10
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Dealer margins went down, retail stayed the same. Also mainstays like the Panda, Safari have been subjected to lower production runs.


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So it made us have to pay more…. :bang head:

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Old 16 January 2014, 07:15 PM   #11
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No price rise here.
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Old 16 January 2014, 09:44 PM   #12
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In Singapore, the MSRP for most of the SS models and popular models (incl FC, ceramic, novelties, 4101, etc) have seen increase from 2-4%, but the gold pieces such as RGRC, RG44mm, RG RO Skeleton, etc have minor reduction of 1-2%.


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Old 16 January 2014, 10:00 PM   #13
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Schmacher TI in the UK has gone up from £31550 to £33300.
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Old 16 January 2014, 10:53 PM   #14
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Schmacher TI in the UK has gone up from £31550 to £33300.
Do you know about the Diver and 15400?

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Old 16 January 2014, 11:27 PM   #15
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Small increase only on steel, 2k + on rgrc which has increased to £29800.
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Old 16 January 2014, 11:40 PM   #16
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It seems like those are mostly modest price increases. I doubt it will affect the people who want to buy an AP.
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Old 17 January 2014, 12:03 AM   #17
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It seems like those are mostly modest price increases. I doubt it will affect the people who want to buy an AP.
Well, for those paying full retail, the price increases have been negligible. However, some gray dealers have increased pricing between 10-15%, which presumably was what ap was hoping to achieve.
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Old 17 January 2014, 12:37 AM   #18
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15400 went up just a little to $17100 IIRC.


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Old 17 January 2014, 02:07 AM   #19
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It's not so much the reatil price increase guys, it's the dealer cost has gone up 10% which makes it in turn more expensive for us dealers buying them.
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Old 17 January 2014, 11:03 AM   #20
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It's not so much the reatil price increase guys, it's the dealer cost has gone up 10% which makes it in turn more expensive for us dealers buying them.
Which in turn means less discount=more expensive for us lonely buyers
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Old 17 January 2014, 12:09 PM   #21
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Giving the boutiques an advantage...their internal wholesale price is lower than ADs. When ADs can afford less consideration, boutiques become a more viable alternative.
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Old 18 January 2014, 06:53 AM   #22
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The FC diver has gone up over £1,000 to £20,000. Can't say I understand the logic in raising the price of a model when most people aren't currently willing to pay the original retail price in the first place (grey dealers seem to be selling them for about £14,500). When you add to the mix raising the wholesale price as well it makes even less sense to me.

If AP really want to stop heavy discounting they need to price some of their watches more keenly to begin with. I think the 15400 is actually quite well priced when compared to other brands. However, many of the ROOs, like the FC diver, in my view, are unrealistically priced. It is, therefore, unsurprising people want/expect discounts.

I think merely raising the retail and wholesale prices is unlikely to solve this problem. Buyers need to believe that the retail price is close to the real/perceived value of the watch. It seems to me that people are willing to pay £5,000 for a new Rolex sub with little or no discount because they believe the real value of the watch (i.e. taking everything in to account such as quality, heritage, desirability, brand recognition etc.) is some where close to the retail price. Anyway time will tell if this is the right strategy.
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Old 18 January 2014, 07:15 AM   #23
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Looks like the Diver went from $18,900 to $19,000...
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Old 18 January 2014, 08:25 AM   #24
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I look at other sport watches for example Hublot, believe me I have had both and much prefer ap roo but they answered there customers by 1 in house movement, 2 updated the big bang in which I personally think they look awesome. They are priced in the mid to low 20s with there new big bang and in house movement. Add discount and you have a great watch for the price. The roo is 15 to 18 thousand more. Will this make people look at different choices? Not here to compare brands but just a thought .
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Old 18 January 2014, 08:46 AM   #25
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Sorry 10 to 12 thousand
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Old 18 January 2014, 02:18 PM   #26
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Looks like the Diver went from $18,900 to $19,000...
Sweet! Glad I have mine!
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