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jmiicustomz · 14 August 2014, 12:39 AM

I was set to purchase a "homage" watch from a fellow in Canada. He builds them and regulates them using Asian movements and seems to do a pretty good job. I don't own a Panerai and am not sure I like the look but have several customers coming in telling me to give them a try. So I figured I would get an inexpensive but decent "homage" piece and see how it wore and decide from there. The wife is on me about spending money as she wants a new kitchen and bathrooms yesterday, so I sent him a money order so she couldn't track my spending. I had one of my employees run up to the post office and get a MO and send it priority (knowing that priority mail comes with tracking.) Well it doesn't come with tracking when shipped to Canada when no customs label is required. Now it has been three weeks and he still doesn't have it. USPS says they have no way to track it and that Canadian mail is just that slow. Is there anything I can do other than suck it up accept that I lost the money and move on? I thought there was a way they could do an inquiry into it but they say no to me on the phone.

Kingair · 14 August 2014, 12:42 AM

Don't know if you are allowed to discuss these 'things' on TRF

And I don't mean USPS . . .

Tools · 14 August 2014, 01:45 AM

considering it's only been 3 weeks, and you say that was when the money order was sent, I don't think that you should be at the point of panic yet.. Yes, USPS and crossing into Canada is that slow..

brandrea · 14 August 2014, 01:58 AM

My guess is its hung up in customs. Did you use your own broker, or was the seller clearing it? If it wasn't cleared through customs properly .. Eg mailed but not identified properly as to the contents of the package, you may have a problem.

locutus49 · 14 August 2014, 02:26 AM

So he builds and sells fakes? If they are branded Panerai they are fake and thus dishonest. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

MonBK · 14 August 2014, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

My guess is its hung up in customs. Did you use your own broker, or was the seller clearing it? If it wasn't cleared through customs properly .. Eg mailed but not identified properly as to the contents of the package, you may have a problem.

I thought the OP sent a letter with a MO?

brandrea · 14 August 2014, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

I thought the OP sent a letter with a MO?

I stand corrected

he did state that. Not being upfront with your wife will bring you negative karma

jmiicustomz · 14 August 2014, 03:05 AM

I did send a letter and he does not have panerai on the dials or anywhere else for that matter. His entire website states what Asian movts, bands, and cases he uses and markets them as watches that are mechanical or automatic that are for budget minded people who want accuracy and not names. He prides himself on regulating his movements and being able to double the factory movement warranty because he tears wash movement down and cleans up any and all issues qc missed at the factory

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77T · 14 August 2014, 04:07 AM

Letters to Canada don't take that long. Heck I sent one to Sweden and it took a week.

If you are lucky, your employee bought you a Postal Money Order...if that's the case, file a claim that it's lost in the mail. That way USPS would check if it was cashed (and by whom) as part of the claim investigation.

If it is some other type of money order, then you can claim with the issuer. So you have a chance to get your money back.

If it's been cashed by the seller then you'll know something, if it's been lost you'll get your money back.

Runnin' Rebel · 14 August 2014, 04:48 AM

Your wife probably intercepted that envelope at the border. They're tricky like that

jmiicustomz · 14 August 2014, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

Letters to Canada don't take that long. Heck I sent one to Sweden and it took a week.

If you are lucky, your employee bought you a Postal Money Order...if that's the case, file a claim that it's lost in the mail. That way USPS would check if it was cashed (and by whom) as part of the claim investigation.

If it is some other type of money order, then you can claim with the issuer. So you have a chance to get your money back.

If it's been cashed by the seller then you'll know something, if it's been lost you'll get your money back.

Sounds good I will look into it and it was a postal mo

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jmiicustomz · 14 August 2014, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

Your wife probably intercepted that envelope at the border. They're tricky like that

My ex wife did that with three months mortgage payments. That was a nightmare to fix but that's why she's the ex

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jmiicustomz · 14 August 2014, 11:38 AM

So I guess I was pre mature as it arrived this evening! Thanks for the input and I will find a better way next time I send a letter to Canada

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Kingair · 14 August 2014, 11:59 AM

I won't be me sending this kind of letters to Canada

I rather save money to get something genuine . . .

Fake or look-a-like is not my way of living

I rather safe the money untill I can buy it

And cash out of hand . . . no 48 easy payments . . .

But hey . . . that's just me ;)

cop414 · 14 August 2014, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jmiicustomz

My ex wife did that with three months mortgage payments. That was a nightmare to fix but that's why she's the ex

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Nothing worse than getting that call from the bank... been there, done that.

Kingair · 14 August 2014, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cop414

Nothing worse than getting that call from the bank... been there, done that.

Sorry to hear this Tim

cop414 · 14 August 2014, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingair

Sorry to hear this Tim

Oh it's okay Marc, that was over 15 years ago. It was quite a shock though getting that phone call, I had to scramble to get the money fast but was able to do so. All in the past now and believe it or not I'm better from the experience!

Kingair · 14 August 2014, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cop414

Oh it's okay Marc, that was over 15 years ago. It was quite a shock though getting that phone call, I had to scramble to get the money fast but was able to do so. All in the past now and believe it or not I'm better from the experience!

We'll we all go through some rough times apparently . . .

HAGOne buddy

jmiicustomz · 14 August 2014, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingair

I won't be me sending this kind of letters to Canada

I rather save money to get something genuine . . .

Fake or look-a-like is not my way of living

I rather safe the money untill I can buy it

And cash out of hand . . . no 48 easy payments . . .

But hey . . . that's just me ;)

And that is fine. I am really looking for a speedy pro to buy outright and never buy anything but a house on credit( put everything on discover and pay off every month) I just don't see the need in dropping several thousands of dollars on something I don't expect to like. If I do like it I will buy the real deal and give this thing to my younger cousin (14 yrs old.) But I want the speedmaster first and will need 6-8 months to save the coin after that if i want a Pam.

I had to sell my beloved supra to cover the mortgage and credit card debt I didn't know I had and get divorced ASAP. Looking back I was stupid to get married at 19 but man was she pretty lol. Not so much now as she is strung out on meth and pills.

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77T · 14 August 2014, 10:15 PM

Wow John, that last post makes your initial one look like the least of your worries. Sorry such things happened - hope the next few years wipe those problems away.

Kingair · 15 August 2014, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jmiicustomz

And that is fine. I am really looking for a speedy pro to buy outright and never buy anything but a house on credit( put everything on discover and pay off every month) I just don't see the need in dropping several thousands of dollars on something I don't expect to like. If I do like it I will buy the real deal and give this thing to my younger cousin (14 yrs old.) But I want the speedmaster first and will need 6-8 months to save the coin after that if i want a Pam.

I had to sell my beloved supra to cover the mortgage and credit card debt I didn't know I had and get divorced ASAP. Looking back I was stupid to get married at 19 but man was she pretty lol. Not so much now as she is strung out on meth and pills.

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Unfortunately most of us go through rough times . . .
I am really sorry to hear this sad news

Now luckily there are many Supra out there . . . and you'll find another one

Maybe a Nissan GTR ;)

Take care

jmiicustomz · 15 August 2014, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingair

Unfortunately most of us go through rough times . . .
I am really sorry to hear this sad news

Now luckily there are many Supra out there . . . and you'll find another one

Maybe a Nissan GTR ;)

Take care

The current wife says no to sports cars to save my license as I had 33 speeding tickets before I turned25. And one was 172 mph in a 70 so I get to deal with a BMW instead.

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jmiicustomz · 15 August 2014, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

Wow John, that last post makes your initial one look like the least of your worries. Sorry such things happened - hope the next few years wipe those problems away.

Thanks and they are far behind me now that was 6 yrs ago and what seems like a lifetime now

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Kingair · 15 August 2014, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jmiicustomz

The current wife says no to sports cars to save my license as I had 33 speeding tickets before I turned25. And one was 172 mph in a 70 so I get to deal with a BMW instead.

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33 tickets at 25 . . . ?

So you must be really glad that the Supra is gone !

Gonna save you lots of bucks and an easy way to get PAM ;)

To be honest if I was a Judge and pulled up your records . . . I would have ran your DL through a shredder . . .

I am driving for more than 25 years . . . 2 tickets

#1 for driving 5 miles to fast in Hungary. But that was probably just a Police Officer raising money for himself . . . since I always use Cruise Control . . .

#2 forgot to change my car to the other side at night 15 years ago in Burbank, CA

And this is even 2 to much if you ask me

Not that I have to tell you anything of what to do but driving = responsibility

And most forget it until . . . .

But that's just my .02

Anyway the Omega is a nice one

Go for a 321 ;)

jmiicustomz · 15 August 2014, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingair

33 tickets at 25 . . . ?

So you must be really glad that the Supra is gone !

Gonna save you lots of bucks and an easy way to get PAM ;)

To be honest if I was a Judge and pulled up your records . . . I would have ran your DL through a shredder . . .

I am driving for more than 25 years . . . 2 tickets

#1 for driving 5 miles to fast in Hungary. But that was probably just a Police Officer raising money for himself . . . since I always use Cruise Control . . .

#2 forgot to change my car to the other side at night 15 years ago in Burbank, CA

And this is even 2 to much if you ask me

Not that I have to tell you anything of what to do but driving = responsibility

And most forget it until . . . .

But that's just my .02

Anyway the Omega is a nice one

Go for a 321 ;)

Good attorney is the only thing that saved my license and I am ticket free now for 4 yrs. Thanks for the input on what model I need.

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crew · 15 August 2014, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jmiicustomz

The current wife says no to sports cars to save my license as I had 33 speeding tickets before I turned25. And one was 172 mph in a 70 so I get to deal with a BMW instead.

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Wow. You're lucky to be alive.

And so is everyone else.

14 August 2014, 01:45 AM	#3
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	considering it's only been 3 weeks, and you say that was when the money order was sent, I don't think that you should be at the point of panic yet.. Yes, USPS and crossing into Canada is that slow.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

14 August 2014, 04:07 AM	#9
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,017	Letters to Canada don't take that long. Heck I sent one to Sweden and it took a week. If you are lucky, your employee bought you a Postal Money Order...if that's the case, file a claim that it's lost in the mail. That way USPS would check if it was cashed (and by whom) as part of the claim investigation. If it is some other type of money order, then you can claim with the issuer. So you have a chance to get your money back. If it's been cashed by the seller then you'll know something, if it's been lost you'll get your money back. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

14 August 2014, 10:15 PM	#20
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,017	Wow John, that last post makes your initial one look like the least of your worries. Sorry such things happened - hope the next few years wipe those problems away. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

14 August 2014, 12:39 AM	#1
jmiicustomz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: John Location: North Carolina Watch: 1953 pre explorer Posts: 2,758	USPS help needed I was set to purchase a "homage" watch from a fellow in Canada. He builds them and regulates them using Asian movements and seems to do a pretty good job. I don't own a Panerai and am not sure I like the look but have several customers coming in telling me to give them a try. So I figured I would get an inexpensive but decent "homage" piece and see how it wore and decide from there. The wife is on me about spending money as she wants a new kitchen and bathrooms yesterday, so I sent him a money order so she couldn't track my spending. I had one of my employees run up to the post office and get a MO and send it priority (knowing that priority mail comes with tracking.) Well it doesn't come with tracking when shipped to Canada when no customs label is required. Now it has been three weeks and he still doesn't have it. USPS says they have no way to track it and that Canadian mail is just that slow. Is there anything I can do other than suck it up accept that I lost the money and move on? I thought there was a way they could do an inquiry into it but they say no to me on the phone.

14 August 2014, 12:42 AM	#2
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	Don't know if you are allowed to discuss these 'things' on TRF And I don't mean USPS . . .

14 August 2014, 01:58 AM	#4
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,126	My guess is its hung up in customs. Did you use your own broker, or was the seller clearing it? If it wasn't cleared through customs properly .. Eg mailed but not identified properly as to the contents of the package, you may have a problem.

14 August 2014, 02:26 AM	#5
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	So he builds and sells fakes? If they are branded Panerai they are fake and thus dishonest. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

14 August 2014, 03:05 AM	#8
jmiicustomz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: John Location: North Carolina Watch: 1953 pre explorer Posts: 2,758	I did send a letter and he does not have panerai on the dials or anywhere else for that matter. His entire website states what Asian movts, bands, and cases he uses and markets them as watches that are mechanical or automatic that are for budget minded people who want accuracy and not names. He prides himself on regulating his movements and being able to double the factory movement warranty because he tears wash movement down and cleans up any and all issues qc missed at the factory Sent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2

14 August 2014, 04:48 AM	#10
Runnin' Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: 🤔 Posts: 8,424	Your wife probably intercepted that envelope at the border. They're tricky like that

14 August 2014, 11:38 AM	#13
jmiicustomz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: John Location: North Carolina Watch: 1953 pre explorer Posts: 2,758	So I guess I was pre mature as it arrived this evening! Thanks for the input and I will find a better way next time I send a letter to Canada Sent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2

14 August 2014, 11:59 AM	#14
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	I won't be me sending this kind of letters to Canada I rather save money to get something genuine . . . Fake or look-a-like is not my way of living I rather safe the money untill I can buy it And cash out of hand . . . no 48 easy payments . . . But hey . . . that's just me ;)

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