TNM - The new measure (wAtch)...

[mattyo]

Thought I would start a new more specific thread. surrounding the web page title and SWF animation clues..

The other one was on 8 pages..

Originally Posted by mattyo

"TNM" could be a clue..

'Txxx Nxxx Master'

'The new Mxxxxx'

as it is the name of the picture file..

http://binary.rolex.com/en/media/ima...tnm-teaser.jpg

this makes sense when you compare to


http://binary.rolex.com/en/media/ima...s/bg-gmtII.jpg

I guess it could be for something boring like

'the new model'

It's 'The New Measure'



Clearly see it's a picture from 6 o'clock with crown on right and lume dot at 12 o'clock, hold your Sub in front and it looks the same.

working on this principle. you can extrapolate the size of the case.

I will when I get time measure my winding crown diameter, use this as a calibration point of scale compared to the pic. Which should easily determine the diameter of the case unless someone beats me to it.. which would be good..

My guess is black sub with black ceramic dial / cyclops..

[sbakar]

That sounds like a good idea, but the left side of the image looks cropped?? Or maybe its just the way the silhouette looks.

Maybe you can extrapolate from the other parts of the watch, too, to make it every more accurate!

Black sub w/ceramic bezel and cyclops sounds very probable. Hopefully, thats not a SD :)

SNB

[mattyo]

actual sub 16610

Winding crown on = 6.5mm
Case diameter = 40mm
lume dot = 2mm
most straight on
Serated edge = 1mm

newly pictured on my laptop screen

Winding crown on = 34mm
lume dot = 10mm
case diameter = 190mm
most straight on
Serated edge = 6mm


so if the winding crown is the same size 34 / 6.5 = 5.2308

the pic is 5.2308 bigger than real life

190mm / 5.2308

which indicates a size of 36 mm..???

I double checked using the

lume dot = 10 mm / 2 = 5 (looks o.k)

I've done something wrong, or the crown size has changed, or it's a

mini-sub ?

be good if someone could chime in with the dimensions of their GMT II / SD

matt

[sbakar]

Shadows, maybe? Distortion in the photo?

There are many variables that can screw up this calculation. It will be difficult picking up 36 vs 40 vs 42 mm.

Good try though!

SNB

[sbakar]

OK, looking at your calculations, you did take into account the fact that the lume dot is further away from you in the photo, right??? And the winding crown is closer than the lume dot? And the serrations on the bezel are grossly over-magnified as compared to the crown and lume dot?

Easy error? Or am I missing something?

SNB

[mattyo]

Originally Posted by sbakar

OK, looking at your calculations, you did take into account the fact that the lume dot is further away from you in the photo, right??? And the winding crown is closer than the lume dot? And the serrations on the bezel are grossly over-magnified as compared to the crown and lume dot?

Easy error? Or am I missing something?

SNB

All good points..

Just need someone who is good at maths on this forum to throw their 2 cents in...

And some more crown measurements of other watches

[sbakar]

I would be happy to help but I don't have an SD to play with...yet!

What you need to do is to take the picture of your watch in the SAME angle as the photo...and roughly the same magnification. This will help minimize errors in measurement.

Please do try again!

This reminds me of a CSI episode where they perform triangulation through a window on a clock tower in the distance...to find out what, I have no idea!

SNB

[sbakar]

If you are interested, there are some trigonometric calculations you can perform to try to compensate for errors, but this will take me a LOT of time and space to explain...

Try taking a photo at the same angle and magnification, first!

SNB

[HYDROMAROC]

STOP.... My head hurts...

[sbakar]

Originally Posted by HYDROMAROC

STOP.... My head hurts...

...I haven't even started!

Seriously, though, if I had a SD in front of me, I'd be all over this right now. I'd even make a PDF showing the minutiae of m calculations...but sorry, I'll leave it to the other competent people here!

SNB

[1MAC]

Great idea! Using the picture to measure relative size of crown and bezel. Wish I'd thought of it.

I would think that the 2d image would still work for measurement, since the winding crown (when viewed at this angle) is as far from the camera as the maximum width of the bezel. This is kind of hard to explain, but the 3-9 axis of the watch and the top-bottom axis of the crown are equidistant from the camera.

[1MAC]

I repeated your exercise, measuring the original photo and my 16610. If the crown in the picture is the same size, the bezel figures to be approximately 36mm.
However, if the winding crown were slightly larger, then the bezel would also be larger.

[mattyo]

Originally Posted by 1MAC

Great idea! Using the picture to measure relative size of crown and bezel. Wish I'd thought of it.

I would think that the 2d image would still work for measurement, since the winding crown (when viewed at this angle) is as far from the camera as the maximum width of the bezel. This is kind of hard to explain, but the 3-9 axis of the watch and the top-bottom axis of the crown are equidistant from the camera.

yep.. thats what i thought..

but only
2 days and we'll know if the mini-sub guess is right?

[1MAC]

I hope we're wrong! I'd like to see an update to the Sub, as long as they continue to make the old style.

[ohsixx]

Who wants a mini-sub? Ugh!!!