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rmurphy · 6 February 2015, 07:53 PM

I'm looking to buy a used Tudor Jumbo Oyster Date from the 80's ....... It's a stainless model with a gold fluted bezel and the crown is gold in color as well ...., what does it mean when he says the crown is not signed? Does it mean the watch is not worth buying? Or could I simply replace the crown and stem?
I hope it doesn't sound like a stupid question but I don't want to get myself into a situation where I'm stuck with the watch and I'm not happy with it, it looks great other than that, and priced right for a beater in my terms for a beater. I'm never hard on any of my watches but it does concern me when I see you all other Tudors with a signed Rolex crown and this one doesn't in the seller has even disclosed that he doesn't know if it's a replacement, every other one that I've looked at seems to at least have the Rolex signed crown and I've even seen some that look like it's Tudor shield crown but they might just be an optical illusion… :-)
Thanks for all your guys's help
Rich

PS. This was originally posted in the for sale section, maybe it was moved and if I'm posting this in the wrong section mods please delete, but I do need the forums advice.

Old Expat Beast · 6 February 2015, 08:21 PM

1980s Tudor should have a Rolex marked crown and caseback. More recent ones have tne Tudor shield on the crown. Do you have a photo ir link?

rmurphy · 6 February 2015, 08:26 PM

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=161584301185

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rmurphy · 6 February 2015, 08:32 PM

Blurry photos and in his description he did say he thought it might be a replacement.... The case back and face look ok but I know the crown is wrong. Should that be a deal breaker? I messaged him for better photos and other info and he has been selling since 2007, albeit not a lot ..... But a Rolex or two so he's not a dummy to someone asking questions. He just didn't answer mine as fast as I'd like, maybe he figures he has plenty of time. I like it mostly because it's the larger of the older Tudor sizes. I wish someone on here had one for sale.

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Old Expat Beast · 6 February 2015, 08:36 PM

Hard to tell from the pics on my iPad, but looks ok in general. If you like it. I wouldn't care too much about the crown, as the watch isn't a collectors item.

rmurphy · 6 February 2015, 08:41 PM

Thanks Mr. Adam! I wasn't planning anything other than a nice knock around in watch. I can always put the correct crown on at some point .... Right?

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Old Expat Beast · 6 February 2015, 08:42 PM

Exactly...wear and enjoy!

Dan Pierce · 6 February 2015, 11:24 PM

Wouldn't touch it from a seller at 90%.
dP

Tudor66 · 7 February 2015, 12:36 AM

Mismatched - stainless band on a two tone watch. I would pass.

Oddly enough I almost bought a gray dial all stainless Tudor oysterdate this week, though it has a Rolex folded link band.

I like the 38mm Tudor jumbos as well..!

Good luck

Al

rmurphy · 7 February 2015, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

Wouldn't touch it from a seller at 90%.
dP

Thanks Dan, after the knowledge that I have gained from the last two years of being apart of the Forum, the seller of this watch removed the listing. He knew and I knew something was amiss. Thanks to everyone who chimed in, the watch I'm looking for doesn't have to be super anything just .... something that is what it is, AND THIS ONE WAS CLEARLY NOT CLOSE!

Old Expat Beast · 7 February 2015, 06:11 AM

What was so wrong that he removed the listing?

rmurphy · 7 February 2015, 06:15 AM

No clue mr. Adam

Old Expat Beast · 7 February 2015, 06:19 AM

Then what does "clearly not close" mean? Am I missing something?

rmurphy · 7 February 2015, 06:43 AM

I don't really know what I meant by that I think that I just found one that wasn't what it was, I asked him questions about the difference in the band and the bezel it has and it was a different band than original and I think because the crown has been changed that probably once the back was opened up it wouldn't be everything that it was supposed to be .... that's my own opinion. Because I asked him for model numbers and serial numbers and better pictures and he continued to blow me off with stupid answers. So I think he knew we was found out maybe somebody reported the listing is being fraudulent I don't know.

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6 February 2015, 07:53 PM	#1
rmurphy 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Richard Location: Augusta Georgia Watch: 16600 Posts: 1,058	need some advice before purchasing a used Tudor Jumbo I'm looking to buy a used Tudor Jumbo Oyster Date from the 80's ....... It's a stainless model with a gold fluted bezel and the crown is gold in color as well ...., what does it mean when he says the crown is not signed? Does it mean the watch is not worth buying? Or could I simply replace the crown and stem? I hope it doesn't sound like a stupid question but I don't want to get myself into a situation where I'm stuck with the watch and I'm not happy with it, it looks great other than that, and priced right for a beater in my terms for a beater. I'm never hard on any of my watches but it does concern me when I see you all other Tudors with a signed Rolex crown and this one doesn't in the seller has even disclosed that he doesn't know if it's a replacement, every other one that I've looked at seems to at least have the Rolex signed crown and I've even seen some that look like it's Tudor shield crown but they might just be an optical illusion… :-) Thanks for all your guys's help Rich PS. This was originally posted in the for sale section, maybe it was moved and if I'm posting this in the wrong section mods please delete, but I do need the forums advice.

6 February 2015, 11:24 PM	#8
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,216	Wouldn't touch it from a seller at 90%. dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

7 February 2015, 12:36 AM	#9
Tudor66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Al Location: California, USA Watch: GMT- Pepsi Posts: 3,462	Mismatched - stainless band on a two tone watch. I would pass. Oddly enough I almost bought a gray dial all stainless Tudor oysterdate this week, though it has a Rolex folded link band. I like the 38mm Tudor jumbos as well..! Good luck Al __________________ -NAWCC Member

7 February 2015, 06:43 AM	#14
rmurphy 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Richard Location: Augusta Georgia Watch: 16600 Posts: 1,058	need some advice before purchasing a used Tudor Jumbo I don't really know what I meant by that I think that I just found one that wasn't what it was, I asked him questions about the difference in the band and the bezel it has and it was a different band than original and I think because the crown has been changed that probably once the back was opened up it wouldn't be everything that it was supposed to be .... that's my own opinion. Because I asked him for model numbers and serial numbers and better pictures and he continued to blow me off with stupid answers. So I think he knew we was found out maybe somebody reported the listing is being fraudulent I don't know. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 February 2015, 08:21 PM	#2
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,826	1980s Tudor should have a Rolex marked crown and caseback. More recent ones have tne Tudor shield on the crown. Do you have a photo ir link?

6 February 2015, 08:26 PM	#3
rmurphy 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Richard Location: Augusta Georgia Watch: 16600 Posts: 1,058	http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=161584301185 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 February 2015, 08:32 PM	#4
rmurphy 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Richard Location: Augusta Georgia Watch: 16600 Posts: 1,058	Blurry photos and in his description he did say he thought it might be a replacement.... The case back and face look ok but I know the crown is wrong. Should that be a deal breaker? I messaged him for better photos and other info and he has been selling since 2007, albeit not a lot ..... But a Rolex or two so he's not a dummy to someone asking questions. He just didn't answer mine as fast as I'd like, maybe he figures he has plenty of time. I like it mostly because it's the larger of the older Tudor sizes. I wish someone on here had one for sale. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 February 2015, 08:36 PM	#5
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,826	Hard to tell from the pics on my iPad, but looks ok in general. If you like it. I wouldn't care too much about the crown, as the watch isn't a collectors item.

6 February 2015, 08:41 PM	#6
rmurphy 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Richard Location: Augusta Georgia Watch: 16600 Posts: 1,058	Thanks Mr. Adam! I wasn't planning anything other than a nice knock around in watch. I can always put the correct crown on at some point .... Right? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 February 2015, 08:42 PM	#7
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,826	Exactly...wear and enjoy!

7 February 2015, 06:11 AM	#11
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,826	What was so wrong that he removed the listing?

7 February 2015, 06:15 AM	#12
rmurphy 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Richard Location: Augusta Georgia Watch: 16600 Posts: 1,058	No clue mr. Adam

7 February 2015, 06:19 AM	#13
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,826	Then what does "clearly not close" mean? Am I missing something?

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