Any of you guys use radar jammers in your car?

[Rock]

Both stationary and mobile radar speed monitoring is very prolific in Australia and not always used in a fair manner (there are places where its use is desirable and others where it serves no purpose other than revenue raising).
Radar detection devices are illegal and were regarded as unreliable before that.
The big problem in most of non-metropolitan Australia is that the roads are single lane and it is virtually impossible to pass the large numbers of long heavy vehicles without exceeding the limit by a big margin.
I am resigned to the fact that you have to just sit behind the slow drivers and wait for them to stop or turn off. I used to enjoy driving on long trips but now we go by air instead.

[rozyd]

Only thing to remind everyone -- radar detectors fair poorly against instant on. If you are lucky, the rozzers will laze/time someone ahead of you and you'll pick it up. But chances are if you are being silly/imprudent, you'll get nailed eventually.

As for the comment about saving racing for the track... that's the cop out everyone "responsible" uses. No one here has posted about going into the triple digits, or endangering others. What about the idiots who drive at 55mph in a 70mph zone, because they can, and because it's the minimum posted speed? They are just as much a hazard if not worse, since usually they are rather unpredictable. One minute 55mph, the next 70mph. Then back to 55mph again. Or better yet (and I hope this is only a Michigan thing) where people change lanes to the left near off ramps to let merging traffic in. That's fine and dandy if there is no one in the left lane, or if you are at least traveling at the speed limit. Most of the time these people who allow this "courtesy" for the mergers fail to realize or care that there is someone else slamming on the breaks when they do this, to avoid hitting them. And of course they are usually running 10-15% below the speed limit, causing others to bottleneck.

Drive at the speed that conditions and the flow of traffic allow.

[mjclark32]

I used to have a detector, but now just use awareness. Know where police usually hang out. Look for brake lights up ahead. It seems to be a natural reaction for people to hit the brakes when they see a cop car. Follow a faster car. Stay out of the fast lane.
If I'm the only one on the road I'll usually just leave it at 10 mph over the limit.

[Culley22]

ALWAYS go to the court and ask for Suspend Imposition of Sentence if available, and usually you have to take a "safe driving" class for it, and send in the certificate afterwards. This will allow you to get no points on your record, and it won't be sent to your insurance that you got a ticket.

A LEO can't "re-adjust" the ticket in court. That would basically tell everyone they lied on an official docuement with the lower speed.

Had the Valentine 1, loved it. Was a toss up between that and the Escort. 6 one way, half a dozen the other IMHO.

A lot of freeways in the lower 48 use air monitoring. You'll see the white dashes and the "airplane" picture painted on the right hand side of the rode. Those are used to tell speed from air. No detector will help you on that.

[cop414]

Originally Posted by Culley22

ALWAYS go to the court and ask for Suspend Imposition of Sentence if available, and usually you have to take a "safe driving" class for it, and send in the certificate afterwards. This will allow you to get no points on your record, and it won't be sent to your insurance that you got a ticket.

A LEO can't "re-adjust" the ticket in court. That would basically tell everyone they lied on an official docuement with the lower speed.

Had the Valentine 1, loved it. Was a toss up between that and the Escort. 6 one way, half a dozen the other IMHO.

A lot of freeways in the lower 48 use air monitoring. You'll see the white dashes and the "airplane" picture painted on the right hand side of the rode. Those are used to tell speed from air. No detector will help you on that.

In PA we can lower the speed on the citation with the blessing of the District Court Judge, it's done all the time. Both speeds are still on the citation, our citations even have a section or at least they did when I was on the job that read something to the effect of operator pled guilty to a lesser speed at or before the court hearing. All states are different but in PA it can be amended and it's done all the time.

[JohnAndrew]

I've owned Escort, Passport and currently a Valentine1. I've been most pleased with the Valentine1. I've only once, gotten a ticket while it was in the car. The Mrs had turned it off the day before. I didn't find out until I got pulled over doing twenty over the limit. I called the prosecutors office and asked if I could have it reduced to a no point violation and then paid a very small fine. I've actually had the V1 for a little over ten years. A year or so back, I sent it in to have the electronics upgraded, with a check to cover the costs. They sent it back upgraded, with the check uncashed. My kind of company.

[Widows Son]

The only time I've agreed to lessen a penalty is when it involves a juvenile. Their license is suspended 90 days for any moving violation. As for writing a lesser speed at the scene, I think that's a good way for the officer to get himself in hot water. If someone wants it reduced, or no points, go to court. I haven't been to court in ages on traffic, so either my statement of facts is airtight, or it's been plead without me knowing it. 95% of my cites are out of crashes, don't ever remember losing one of those in court.

[threemonkeys]

Originally Posted by darlinboy

if you want to drive that fast, head to the track.

Much safer for everyone.

x2

[VICI]

My choice:

[SUBversive]

Speed limits are randomly set and not uniformity enforced. 55 versus 65 on a superhighway ? What is the difference? Departments deny it but they have ticket quotas. That's a tax folks. Used for revenue not safety. A big reason people don't respect the law.

Hello escort ,,, ill take two ....

[Robert Cross]

They plead down in our Town all the time, a speeding ticket fine goes to the state,
unsafe lane change stays in the County.

Buffalo News...."The long-standing practice of allowing drivers caught speeding in the region’s towns and villages to plead down their tickets to parking violations could be dramatically curtailed under Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s budget"

Bob.

[s14roller]

I flow with traffic so use radar as just a way to make sure I'm doing speed limit if radar is being used.

V1 for me. Have considered Passport Max for GPS lockout but most radar detector
Forums still think V1 is a bit better. You may have to change a setting or 2 so it doesnt false but once you do, its awesome.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Robert Cross

They plead down in our Town all the time, a speeding ticket fine goes to the state,
unsafe lane change stays in the County.

Buffalo News...."The long-standing practice of allowing drivers caught speeding in the region’s towns and villages to plead down their tickets to parking violations could be dramatically curtailed under Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s budget"

Bob.

Shit bob! That's crap news had a Leo tag me illegal lane change a couple years back on the 90 near the mall when he had me dead to rights 81 in a 55. Now I know why!

[Culley22]

Originally Posted by cop414

In PA we can lower the speed on the citation with the blessing of the District Court Judge, it's done all the time. Both speeds are still on the citation, our citations even have a section or at least they did when I was on the job that read something to the effect of operator pled guilty to a lesser speed at or before the court hearing. All states are different but in PA it can be amended and it's done all the time.

Lowering can be done, as it's a lesser penalty, and both speeds are noted. But going in later and saying "hey, well I lied on what I wrote the ticket for, he was really going faster." And trying to get a stiffer penalty...well, it wouldn't fly. But a lesser penalty is doable, and the guilty party is usually happy to have been given a break they take whatever it is.

[cop414]

Originally Posted by Culley22

Lowering can be done, as it's a lesser penalty, and both speeds are noted. But going in later and saying "hey, well I lied on what I wrote the ticket for, he was really going faster." And trying to get a stiffer penalty...well, it wouldn't fly. But a lesser penalty is doable, and the guilty party is usually happy to have been given a break they take whatever it is.

Never would I "lie" about what I wrote the ticket for. If I would lower the speed the wording on the ticket would be the speed equivalent to the fine posted and also on the same line "actual speed" posted, all above board, as... speeding 65 in a 55 zone, actual speed timed 73 in a 55 zone. Also all of the timing device information would be on the actual speed. I would testify under oath to the judge that the defendant was timed at the "actual" speed. This is legally allowable and common practice in Pa. We also had a section in the code titled, "obedience to traffic control devices" that could be written to give someone a break. The control device that was disobeyed was a speed limit sign, minimum fine and no points. I've heard though that this fine has now gone up quite a bit.
All 50 states do this differently, how it works here in Pa isn't how it might work in NY or MD or in Alaska for that matter.