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indosurf · 10 March 2015, 11:10 AM

Im looking for a new SS Submariner, well new to me anyway.
I had a 2005 submariner that I sold

, and kept a SS Datejust, but
I WANT MY SUB BACK Lol.
I do not like the new Hulk style and prefer the 16610.
Ive been searching high and low and am surprised at the prices I am seeing on the 16610.
There are a couple of new old stock watches out there, that have never been worn, with all the original protective stickers on them, but the sellers are asking more than the retail price of a new sub!
Is this the norm? I am a patient man and will wait to find the right deal, but should I give up hope of finding a last model year 16610 nos for less than $6500??

Casio · 10 March 2015, 10:39 PM

I was in the same situation a year ago and searched high and low for a nos 16610. Called every AD in Canada and U.S. No one had one except one AD. Wanted 8500 OTD. I bit the bullet and bought it at top dollar. For me, it was nos or nothing. I know I could have purchased the SubC for less. SubC does not look great on my wrist, so it was either buy old sub or the Sub dream ends. Anyways, I've been wearing it everyday for the last year and I love it more everyday.

azguy · 10 March 2015, 10:56 PM

silly, buy LNIB and be done with it...IMHO

capote · 10 March 2015, 11:35 PM

The resale on a NOS is obviously very bad. I would get a nice pre-owned myself.

indosurf · 10 March 2015, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by azguy

silly, buy LNIB and be done with it...IMHO

Agreed, but.....
I'm looking mostly on an auction site e something lol
Every single watch for sale, and there are hundreds, are being offered by people in the watch business and they seem to have cornered the market, also most have been polished, "serviced", missing box or papers etc, plus they have their profit built into the price!
I would much rather find one from the original owner who never wore it and kept it wrapped in a diaper in his safe lol.
I'll keep looking :)

Casio · 11 March 2015, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by azguy

silly, buy LNIB and be done with it...IMHO

If we are talking silly, buying a multi-thousand dollar watch is far from rational. You are already 90% of the way there so why not spend the extra couple of bucks to get what you want.

GradyPhilpott · 11 March 2015, 12:13 AM

Don't buy BNIB NOS.

At this stage of the game, it's just price gouging.

As soon as you take the stickers off, it will be no different than any other used 16610.

Mr DateJust · 11 March 2015, 12:13 AM

I got my explorer 2 NOS and paid retail for it. As far as I know AD's are not allowed to offer NOS watches at inflated prices. They must sell them at what ever the final retail for that mode is. I am not sure Rolex would be happy about it.

Clay · 11 March 2015, 12:49 AM

Almost any discontinued piece that you can find in true NOS condition will command a premium...

If a new, unworn watch is what you want, you have no choice but to pay what ever premiums they are commanding...

c41006 · 11 March 2015, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capote

The resale on a NOS is obviously very bad. I would get a nice pre-owned myself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Don't buy BNIB NOS.

At this stage of the game, it's just price gouging.

As soon as you take the stickers off, it will be no different than any other used 16610.

Agreed. You will take a huge hit on resale. The only way I see a NOS 16610 making sense is if you plan to stash it in a safe and never take the stickers off. Who wants to do that?

Casio · 11 March 2015, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by c41006

Agreed. You will take a huge hit on resale. The only way I see a NOS 16610 making sense is if you plan to stash it in a safe and never take the stickers off. Who wants to do that?

Or if you don't care about resale. If the watch is purchased and kept for life, and you can truly afford it...why not. Being able to afford it is the big issue for most. If you can truly afford it, you will never have to sell it for any reason.

watchwatcher · 11 March 2015, 03:11 AM

If the NOS is what you really want, you're going to have to pay for it. I wouldn't, but that's me.

locutus49 · 11 March 2015, 03:31 AM

Agree. Either buy a new Rolex or a LNIB of the older model. Like one gent said, as soon as you take the stickers off you lose thousands and it is LNIB.

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Originally Posted by watchwatcher

If the NOS is what you really want, you're going to have to pay for it. I wouldn't, but that's me.

10 March 2015, 11:10 AM	#1
indosurf "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: California Posts: 15	"nos" Im looking for a new SS Submariner, well new to me anyway. I had a 2005 submariner that I sold , and kept a SS Datejust, but I WANT MY SUB BACK Lol. I do not like the new Hulk style and prefer the 16610. Ive been searching high and low and am surprised at the prices I am seeing on the 16610. There are a couple of new old stock watches out there, that have never been worn, with all the original protective stickers on them, but the sellers are asking more than the retail price of a new sub! Is this the norm? I am a patient man and will wait to find the right deal, but should I give up hope of finding a last model year 16610 nos for less than $6500??

11 March 2015, 12:13 AM	#7
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK047 Posts: 34,460	Don't buy BNIB NOS. At this stage of the game, it's just price gouging. As soon as you take the stickers off, it will be no different than any other used 16610. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

10 March 2015, 10:39 PM	#2
Casio "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Toronto Posts: 51	I was in the same situation a year ago and searched high and low for a nos 16610. Called every AD in Canada and U.S. No one had one except one AD. Wanted 8500 OTD. I bit the bullet and bought it at top dollar. For me, it was nos or nothing. I know I could have purchased the SubC for less. SubC does not look great on my wrist, so it was either buy old sub or the Sub dream ends. Anyways, I've been wearing it everyday for the last year and I love it more everyday.

10 March 2015, 10:56 PM	#3
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	silly, buy LNIB and be done with it...IMHO

10 March 2015, 11:35 PM	#4
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	The resale on a NOS is obviously very bad. I would get a nice pre-owned myself.

11 March 2015, 12:13 AM	#8
Mr DateJust "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Glasgow, UK Watch: 16570 Posts: 909	I got my explorer 2 NOS and paid retail for it. As far as I know AD's are not allowed to offer NOS watches at inflated prices. They must sell them at what ever the final retail for that mode is. I am not sure Rolex would be happy about it.

11 March 2015, 12:49 AM	#9
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	Almost any discontinued piece that you can find in true NOS condition will command a premium... If a new, unworn watch is what you want, you have no choice but to pay what ever premiums they are commanding...

11 March 2015, 03:11 AM	#12
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,047	If the NOS is what you really want, you're going to have to pay for it. I wouldn't, but that's me.

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