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slowhand · 30 April 2015, 12:50 AM

Functional elegance (PP) vs romantic beauty (ALS)..

The Patek 3940 was produced for a long time, yet isn't so easy to find on the market, while the Lange 1815 MP being an LE is rare and even harder to come by.

What is your choice? Help a brother decide..

PJ S · 30 April 2015, 02:45 AM

Lange – no contest, even though the 4 and 8 are missing.
The PP is not functional elegance, there's nothing elegant about that dial – that's the ALS.
The romantic beauty is the PP, because of the name attached to an otherwise messy layout.

Then again, you're comparing a PC to a mere moonphase – if you want a PC that's functionally elegant, it's got to be the Glashutte Original.

cervantes · 30 April 2015, 03:08 AM

Tough one. That Lange is a stunner and very hard to find. Though I think I prefer the moon phase of the Grande Lange 1 more. And if I was going 1815 I'd go for the chrono - unbeatable. But the moon phase is still a winner.

The Patek I'm of two minds on. Its a PP Perpetual and should have held value better than it has. I find the dial layout to be a just about perfect, but it's a small watch - 36mm but because of the case shape it felt even smaller on me. I couldn't get it to sit comfortably on me either. Perpetuals contain a lot of information and I find a larger dial tends to suit the complication better. The case itself is very sensuous drawn and frankly outshines the Lange case by a fair margin. For a Patek PC it's a good buy. Like them both, but don't love one of them...

drhr · 30 April 2015, 03:41 AM

Took me 4 years to find one but oh my it is worth every penny . . .

jjnd08 · 30 April 2015, 03:46 AM

I vote Lange, but I think both make better moonphase references than the two posted (ie PP 5205 and Lange 1).

cervantes · 30 April 2015, 03:53 AM

I'm with JJ on that

mps354 · 30 April 2015, 09:31 AM

I'd vote patek. Don't get me wrong, the lange is beautiful, but I think the 3940 is perfectly proportioned, and might be the best looking watch you can buy. Aside from a perpetual calendar chrono like the 5970, the 3940, to me, is as good as it gets

benlee · 30 April 2015, 09:35 AM

Lange in this case.

malarky_hk · 30 April 2015, 10:01 AM

2 very different pieces. But the Lange takes it with the beautiful and unique dial.

FTX I · 30 April 2015, 10:35 AM

Patek by a mile.

Vipes · 30 April 2015, 10:40 AM

Patek for me. One of their best looking perpetuals.

yjfang · 30 April 2015, 11:05 AM

Lange. What a NICE piece.

B. Doggy · 30 April 2015, 12:05 PM

I'm too lazy to go look right now, but is there a size difference? Right now the PP gets my vote.

GB-man · 30 April 2015, 12:23 PM

Both nice, today I like the patek.

el1125 · 30 April 2015, 12:25 PM

Patek

nick c · 30 April 2015, 12:28 PM

Pp

texex91 · 30 April 2015, 12:29 PM

Lange.

Melvin_arnold · 30 April 2015, 01:32 PM

Patek

fmc000 · 30 April 2015, 05:21 PM

Lange, really a no brainer.

Racerdj · 30 April 2015, 08:42 PM

I would have to see both on my wrist to decide.

Cru Jones · 30 April 2015, 09:12 PM

ALS....i could deal with this being my only lange, but, there are many other pateks i'd rather have.

paverman · 30 April 2015, 10:03 PM

Vote goes to the 1815.

soundserious · 30 April 2015, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

ALS....i could deal with this being my only lange, but, there are many other pateks i'd rather have.

Very good point. The Lange is a head turner though, if you want to fly low then the Patek is a better bet.

capote · 1 May 2015, 08:08 PM

I'm far from a Patek fanboy, but the 3940 is IMO the quintessential modern perpetual calendar.

braningan · 1 May 2015, 08:31 PM

Patek

Vaxe · 2 May 2015, 09:47 AM

Between the two - 3940.

Not a fan of the guilloche on the MP. I think the 1815 Up/Down is more balanced.

AK797 · 2 May 2015, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjnd08

I vote Lange, but I think both make better moonphase references than the two posted (ie PP 5205 and Lange 1).

Agree, and generally there are quite a few of both brands I'd have first.

View Poll Results: PP or ALS?
Patek 3940	31	53.45%
Lange 1815 Moonphase	27	46.55%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

30 April 2015, 12:50 AM	#1
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30 April 2015, 12:05 PM	#13
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	I'm too lazy to go look right now, but is there a size difference? Right now the PP gets my vote. __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

30 April 2015, 12:23 PM	#14
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	Both nice, today I like the patek. __________________

30 April 2015, 02:45 AM	#2
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	Lange – no contest, even though the 4 and 8 are missing. The PP is not functional elegance, there's nothing elegant about that dial – that's the ALS. The romantic beauty is the PP, because of the name attached to an otherwise messy layout. Then again, you're comparing a PC to a mere moonphase – if you want a PC that's functionally elegant, it's got to be the Glashutte Original.

30 April 2015, 03:08 AM	#3
cervantes "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Jay Location: East and West Posts: 1,894	Tough one. That Lange is a stunner and very hard to find. Though I think I prefer the moon phase of the Grande Lange 1 more. And if I was going 1815 I'd go for the chrono - unbeatable. But the moon phase is still a winner. The Patek I'm of two minds on. Its a PP Perpetual and should have held value better than it has. I find the dial layout to be a just about perfect, but it's a small watch - 36mm but because of the case shape it felt even smaller on me. I couldn't get it to sit comfortably on me either. Perpetuals contain a lot of information and I find a larger dial tends to suit the complication better. The case itself is very sensuous drawn and frankly outshines the Lange case by a fair margin. For a Patek PC it's a good buy. Like them both, but don't love one of them...

30 April 2015, 03:46 AM	#5
jjnd08 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: United States Posts: 8,615	I vote Lange, but I think both make better moonphase references than the two posted (ie PP 5205 and Lange 1).

30 April 2015, 03:53 AM	#6
cervantes "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Jay Location: East and West Posts: 1,894	I'm with JJ on that

30 April 2015, 09:31 AM	#7
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 9,099	I'd vote patek. Don't get me wrong, the lange is beautiful, but I think the 3940 is perfectly proportioned, and might be the best looking watch you can buy. Aside from a perpetual calendar chrono like the 5970, the 3940, to me, is as good as it gets

30 April 2015, 09:35 AM	#8
benlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ben Location: SIN & JKT Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 9,874	Lange in this case.

30 April 2015, 10:01 AM	#9
malarky_hk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: ... Watch: Rolex Posts: 4,466	2 very different pieces. But the Lange takes it with the beautiful and unique dial.

30 April 2015, 10:35 AM	#10
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	Patek by a mile.

30 April 2015, 10:40 AM	#11
Vipes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4,913	Patek for me. One of their best looking perpetuals.

30 April 2015, 11:05 AM	#12
yjfang "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: JF Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex Sub 1680 Posts: 1,426	Lange. What a NICE piece.

30 April 2015, 12:25 PM	#15
el1125 Banned Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USA Posts: 3,578	Patek

30 April 2015, 12:28 PM	#16
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	Pp

30 April 2015, 12:29 PM	#17
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Lange.

30 April 2015, 01:32 PM	#18
Melvin_arnold "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Melvin Location: Sydney Watch: TV Posts: 392	Patek

30 April 2015, 05:21 PM	#19
fmc000 Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Fabio Location: Como - Italy Posts: 4,811	Lange, really a no brainer.

30 April 2015, 08:42 PM	#20
Racerdj 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indianapolis Watch: Patek-Philippe Posts: 16,832	I would have to see both on my wrist to decide. __________________ Rolex and Patek Philippe

30 April 2015, 09:12 PM	#21
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,300	ALS....i could deal with this being my only lange, but, there are many other pateks i'd rather have.

30 April 2015, 10:03 PM	#22
paverman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Ken Location: Illinois Watch: Too many Posts: 2,870	Vote goes to the 1815.

1 May 2015, 08:08 PM	#24
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	I'm far from a Patek fanboy, but the 3940 is IMO the quintessential modern perpetual calendar.

1 May 2015, 08:31 PM	#25
braningan "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: N/A Posts: 571	Patek

2 May 2015, 09:47 AM	#26
Vaxe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Austin TX Posts: 2,122	Between the two - 3940. Not a fan of the guilloche on the MP. I think the 1815 Up/Down is more balanced.

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