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Old 26 April 2015, 01:24 PM   #31
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Generally speaking, Rolex has much better resale value than AP. I'm a serial flipper as well. Best bet is to buy preowned at the right price.
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Old 27 April 2015, 01:24 PM   #32
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Will they retain value? Not if AP keeps pumping various editions at this rate.
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Old 27 April 2015, 07:26 PM   #33
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I guess, as long as AP royal oak is still attractive to the new collectors, sure yes it will maintain the value very well.
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Old 27 April 2015, 08:17 PM   #34
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Will they retain value? Not if AP keeps pumping various editions at this rate.

I was not aware there are various editions of the Royal Oak
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Old 28 April 2015, 05:48 AM   #35
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Will 15202ST (After 2012 model)holds its value comparably to PP 5711? AD Offered 15% off. Seems hard to find grey market new and pre-own prices. Thanks
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Old 28 April 2015, 01:52 PM   #36
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I paid 12,000. for my ro black dial almost 3 years ago (new). Think I could get 10 or 11 for it now. I have never made money on a watch. If I get 11 then I would be pretty happy.!000 dollar loss for 3 years, not bad.
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Old 28 April 2015, 02:17 PM   #37
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If you are likely to flip get a Daytona.

You could do better with a 15202 or 15300 bought at the right price than a 15400.
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Old 28 April 2015, 02:33 PM   #38
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So what's the right price, say 25% off for a 15202st?
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Old 29 April 2015, 01:16 AM   #39
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So what's the right price, say 25% off for a 15202st?
Around, there are a couple pre-owned for sale right here on the forum, something around $18.5k I think is fair.
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Old 29 April 2015, 02:49 AM   #40
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I guess this price is expensive while AD is willing to sell around the same price BNIB.
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Old 29 April 2015, 05:13 AM   #41
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I guess this price is expensive while AD is willing to sell around the same price BNIB.

If you have an AD that will sell a 15202 at 25% off list you should take it. And pm me the details. That is very good for that piece.
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Old 29 April 2015, 08:03 AM   #42
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I cannot find one selling 25% off. But I am sure 15% off is not an issue
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Old 29 April 2015, 10:51 AM   #43
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I cannot find one selling 25% off. But I am sure 15% off is not an issue
15% off bnib from an AD is a great price.
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Old 29 April 2015, 01:01 PM   #44
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Not every AD will have one to offer, boutiques have them in the back most of time but they hardly ever discount them.

So, I would get one here, there are unworn and mint for the around $19k.

Could you do better at an AD, proooobably, but give or take a couple of hundred bucks I would save the trouble of finding one in a AD and haggling.
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I must be a bad haggler, I've never seen a bnib here for 19k or gotten 15% off a jumbo.has the market softened for the 15202?
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Old 3 May 2015, 10:22 PM   #46
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depends which material gold/steel, bracelet or strap , which model a 15202, 15300 depreciate less than the 15400
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I've been trying to look for a pre owned AP 26320 RG white dial on strap (same as Neil's) for months now for this very reason. I read that the ap doesn't hold value as much as the Rolex and I want to take advantage of that and get a pre owned one instead of new. But it's impossible to find..... Just wondering How much do you think a pre owned should be off %age wise from msrp lets say if it's 1-2nyears old in excellent condition?


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I don't think RO can compete on resale with some Rolex and Patek models but as said here if you buy at a good price, basically not in boutique or AD but from grey dealers or pre owned, I think you should be ok, I had the chance to get a 15300 blue dial from 2009 for 9.000 euros 1,5 years ago, but instead went for another watch, now I regret as they cost much much more especially in blue dial
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Old 6 May 2015, 09:29 AM   #48
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So what's the right price, say 25% off for a 15202st?
Good luck, in the Paris boutique it's 0% discount on the Jumbo, and you have the impression that you are really bothering them, same at the Panerai boutique...

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Around, there are a couple pre-owned for sale right here on the forum, something around $18.5k I think is fair.
Yeah but that's not 25% off retail right?

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If you have an AD that will sell a 15202 at 25% off list you should take it. And pm me the details. That is very good for that piece.
Me too

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15% off bnib from an AD is a great price.
IMO on the 15400 possible, on Jumbo blue dial, good luck… The one that IMO you won't loose money on is the blue dial 15300, 1,5 year ago I almost got one from 2009 in mint, for 8.900 euros, now I don't think less than 12K is imaginable, so I don't think they will loose if you buy now, IMO they will retain, but I don't think they will go much higher than 13-14K

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I've been trying to look for a pre owned AP 26320 RG white dial on strap (same as Neil's) for months now for this very reason. I read that the ap doesn't hold value as much as the Rolex and I want to take advantage of that and get a pre owned one instead of new. But it's impossible to find..... Just wondering How much do you think a pre owned should be off %age wise from msrp lets say if it's 1-2nyears old in excellent condition?
Honestly Sam I don't know AP enough, my Daytona RG on strap was retail 23.400 euros, got for 17.500 and sold in super mint for 15.800 euros, would still have it had I paid retail, would have never taken a 8K loss
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