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View Poll Results: IWC, AP, or FP Journe?
IWC Portuguese Perpetual Calendar (WG, New Version) 5 6.25%
AP 15202 (Steel, Blue Dial) 42 52.50%
FP Journe Chronometre Bleu 33 41.25%
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Old 21 May 2015, 10:05 PM   #31
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15202 unless you "need" a seconds hand, in which case blue 15300.

FPJ is gorgeous, but, I am afraid to commit to in-house service by a boutique brand that could disappear in the medium-term.
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Old 21 May 2015, 10:23 PM   #32
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15202 unless you "need" a seconds hand, in which case blue 15300.

FPJ is gorgeous, but, I am afraid to commit to in-house service by a boutique brand that could disappear in the medium-term.
I've seen several members say this now. Why do people fear that FPJ will disappear?
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Old 21 May 2015, 11:09 PM   #33
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I've seen several members say this now. Why do people fear that FPJ will disappear?


for me at least, it's nothing specific about FPJ, just the type of watch company like FPJ. getting personal, i don't have unlimited watch funds and the acquisition of such watch would be the grail of my collection, so, i would want to be certain (as possible) that thirty or fifty years from now, it could easily and readily be serviced.

on the other hand, if it's not a lifetime/heirloom piece for someone, then, no worries at all.

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Old 21 May 2015, 11:59 PM   #34
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for me at least, it's nothing specific about FPJ, just the type of watch company like FPJ. getting personal, i don't have unlimited watch funds and the acquisition of such watch would be the grail of my collection, so, i would want to be certain (as possible) that thirty or fifty years from now, it could easily and readily be serviced.

on the other hand, if it's not a lifetime/heirloom piece for someone, then, no worries at all.

I agree with all of that, and also don't have an unlimited watch fund. Does this concern exist with AP? I know it's an older company, but it also has that model of know one else should really service their watches except for them.
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Old 22 May 2015, 01:31 AM   #35
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I agree with all of that, and also don't have an unlimited watch fund. Does this concern exist with AP? I know it's an older company, but it also has that model of know one else should really service their watches except for them.
I don't think AP will disappear, they're here to stay, well except if quartz watches comes back in fashion real hard, but I don't really think so.

All high end brands have the model that they should be the only ones to service their watches, I think a not bad part of their revenues is from servicing the watches...

I like a lot FPJ, even was thinking maybe adding a C bleu one day, I took it out of the possibilities when I knew the service charges, it's not the problem of the sum itself, but the problem that you give about 15% of the watch's retail price at every service, ok with Rolex it may be the same thing if you service a non date sub, as I understand it would also be about 15% of retail if you polish it, but paying 15% of a 6K piece is one thing, 15% of a 20K piece is another
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Old 22 May 2015, 03:15 AM   #36
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I don't think AP will disappear, they're here to stay, well except if quartz watches comes back in fashion real hard, but I don't really think so.

All high end brands have the model that they should be the only ones to service their watches, I think a not bad part of their revenues is from servicing the watches...

I like a lot FPJ, even was thinking maybe adding a C bleu one day, I took it out of the possibilities when I knew the service charges, it's not the problem of the sum itself, but the problem that you give about 15% of the watch's retail price at every service, ok with Rolex it may be the same thing if you service a non date sub, as I understand it would also be about 15% of retail if you polish it, but paying 15% of a 6K piece is one thing, 15% of a 20K piece is another
I was told a regular service for the FPJ Bleu is ~ $1,500, so that is more like 7.5%.
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Old 22 May 2015, 12:10 PM   #37
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