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Old 13 May 2008, 03:02 PM   #1
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will the SD ever cost more than the Sub/Date

For as long as I can remember, the SD always had a higher MSRP than the SS Sub/Date. Now that the SD has a new pred, should we soon see the SD costing more, or will it always be lacking behind the SS Sub on re-sale. And can anyone anticipate how high the SD will rise in pricing in the next 5 or so years. What are your guys hypothesis?



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Old 13 May 2008, 03:08 PM   #2
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Old 13 May 2008, 03:30 PM   #3
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Less production and discontinuation of the SD should make the price shadow the Sub in the next 2 years.
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Old 13 May 2008, 03:34 PM   #4
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Old 13 May 2008, 03:59 PM   #5
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IMO the SD is a lot harder to buy 2nd hand anyway, if ebay is anything to go by.
So maybe they will fetch more.
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Old 13 May 2008, 05:21 PM   #6
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This comes back to supply and demand once again so it all depends on the tastes and desires in the future.

If we consider history, the vintage SD is worth more than a vintage Sub. Roughly speaking, an early 1665 SD is close to double the price of a 1680 Sub date of the same condition and age.

Or at least, that's my experience.

I personally think the SD will be worth more in the long-term but it's a personal gamble.

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Old 14 May 2008, 01:30 AM   #7
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Old 14 May 2008, 05:36 AM   #9
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Old 14 May 2008, 05:42 AM   #10
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As far as I can recall the SD has always cost more new and commanded higher preowned prices.
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Old 14 May 2008, 05:45 AM   #11
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Among the gray dealers and ebay sellers, the SD usually is priced lower than the SS Sub date, prob. due to lower demands. At least this was the case before the price hike and recent rumors of the SD discontinuation.
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Old 14 May 2008, 05:57 AM   #13
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This comes back to supply and demand once again so it all depends on the tastes and desires in the future.

If we consider history, the vintage SD is worth more than a vintage Sub. Roughly speaking, an early 1665 SD is close to double the price of a 1680 Sub date of the same condition and age.

Or at least, that's my experience.

I personally think the SD will be worth more in the long-term but it's a personal gamble.

Cheers - Simon

Exactly, beacuse there are loads more subs around than SD'd, probably not on here but in circulation with the general public.... why because most buyers go in and look at the sub and the SD (this is if they actually even have it one in stock) and compare the watches and don't see why they should pay the extra cash for a very similar watch so then go on and buy the sub
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Old 14 May 2008, 05:58 AM   #14
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IMO the SD is a lot harder to buy 2nd hand anyway, if ebay is anything to go by.
So maybe they will fetch more.
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Old 14 May 2008, 07:34 AM   #15
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Thank you to all who answered. And for those who didn't, you should know, you never answer a question with a question. Toodles
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Old 14 May 2008, 07:39 AM   #16
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Old 14 May 2008, 07:46 AM   #17
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Personally I have a new (BNIB) M serial 2008 Sea-Dweller for sale at ebay.
Earlier this morning I had to increase the price by 500 dollars.
The news have "hit the street" for about a month and a half now about Rolex stopping production and the M serial will be the last Letter available..
TRF was the first place to see verification for the "NO MORE Sea-Dwellers in a broad sence of the phrase....and I had to increase the sale price.
The beginning of the 2008 saw brand new Sea-Dwellers selling for $4600 then $4800 up to $5000 in March, then $5200, $5300, $5500 and now $6.000.
If past history means anything with sport Rolex watches, this Sea-Dweller will hit $20,000 by 2015..but then again Gas will be selling for 12 a gallon..lol
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Old 14 May 2008, 08:07 AM   #18
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Personally I have a new (BNIB) M serial 2008 Sea-Dweller for sale at ebay.
Earlier this morning I had to increase the price by 500 dollars.
The news have "hit the street" for about a month and a half now about Rolex stopping production and the M serial will be the last Letter available..
TRF was the first place to see verification for the "NO MORE Sea-Dwellers in a broad sence of the phrase....and I had to increase the sale price.
The beginning of the 2008 saw brand new Sea-Dwellers selling for $4600 then $4800 up to $5000 in March, then $5200, $5300, $5500 and now $6.000.
If past history means anything with sport Rolex watches, this Sea-Dweller will hit $20,000 by 2015..but then again Gas will be selling for 12 a gallon..lol
Cripes, Anastasio, I'm blown away by your "starting bid" price - I hope you get it! I guess I snuck in just under the wire...
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Old 14 May 2008, 03:24 PM   #19
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now u can easier sell a used Z series SD at 6,000, but you can never sell a used Sub-date at this price
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Old 14 May 2008, 03:28 PM   #20
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From what I remember, the SD price wasn't too much more comared to the sub ie. AD pricing.
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Old 15 May 2008, 10:43 AM   #22
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still, you can never sell a used sub-date higher than a used SD now
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