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Old 16 May 2008, 07:50 AM   #1
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Is it a fake box or not ???

So, I m still looking for a 5513 box for my watch, but I wanted to know if this box is a fake or not.
The rolex logo isnt on the left, why ?
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Old 16 May 2008, 07:53 AM   #2
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Well, the box looks okay to me.

But hopefully Wolfgang chips in with more info. What he does not know about boxes is not worth knowing.
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Old 16 May 2008, 08:01 AM   #3
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What do you think, Jason?

I'm not really up on the older boxes, but the gold embossed lettering looks a bit crude and clumsy compared to the new style boxes.

As Bo says, Wolfgang's the man for this one.
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Old 16 May 2008, 08:06 AM   #4
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could it be the photo is reversed?
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Old 16 May 2008, 08:09 AM   #5
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The style of box looks ok, but the writing does not look correct
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Old 16 May 2008, 12:11 PM   #6
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Box is correct and genuine. The writing and logo are not precise on all of them, but yours is in the correct location. Look at my pics and you will see the different grain pattern on the earlier and the later boxes of the same style. Also note that the outer box top matches each different one precisely. Also I see your looking for a 1967 box for your 5513, this model is not it. These were used from 81-91 in USA market only.
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Old 16 May 2008, 12:15 PM   #7
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Great information Wolfgang you definitely know your boxes
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Old 16 May 2008, 12:32 PM   #8
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Great information Wolfgang you definitely know your boxes
Wow, that could be interpreted in soo many ways.
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The box is genuine. Pull the center section out and see if it reads Bufor on the bottom, this is the company that made the box. This was an exclusive USA box from around 1979 until the late 1980's. Rolex changed boxes in the 1980's but this box could have been on a 1990's watch, depending on what the dealer had in his box inventory. If I was shopping for a box from 1990 on, I wouldn't recommend this box as correct. I haven't seen this box counterfeited yet.

The box that replaced the one just mentioned in the USA market was a small square box with a green-colored pillow covered in a thin coat of vinyl which was used for a five to six year span from around 1989 until around 1984. This box was replaced with the a larger square box with a tan suade covered pillow used until the late 1990's and is notorious for being counterfeited.

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The box looks genuine. Pull the center section out and see if it reads Bufor on the bottom, this is the company that made the box. This was an exclusive USA box from around 1979 until the late 1980's. I haven't seen this box counterfeited yet.
It has indeed been counterfeited. Some better, some worse, be careful when buying one. The dates I stated are correct. Prior to this box from 75-81 this was the USA box exclusively.
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Wrong - My production dates are correct. Show us a counterfeit one if you will, I have yet to see, or hear of them being counterfeited, but that doesn't mean they haven't been counterfeited.
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