Coke GMT 1675

[DJE356]

HI,

I own a GMT 1675 "coke" (black/red bezel) with black dial.
It seem to be from 1972 as the serial is 33xxxx.
Do u know wich price to sell it as I didn't see other coke 1675, only Pepsi or full black bezel, it seem also than the black dial is rare on 1675.
I have the original box but not the papers.

Big Thanx

[roadcarver]

What is the condition of the watch (dial condition, case/crystal etc)? We'll need some more info before the experts can provide you with better guidance.

[DJE356]

The watch is in very very good condition.
The precedent owner bought it 12 years ago as a new old stock, and it was wear only a few time.
Not new but more like a 2 or 3 years old watch.
The bracelet is also an optional one, don't know the exact name in english but it's the one with the "security" like the actual Daytona.

[gmt 16750]

Originally Posted by DJE356

HI,

I own a GMT 1675 "coke" (black/red bezel) with black dial.
It seem to be from 1972 as the serial is 33xxxx.
Do u know wich price to sell it as I didn't see other coke 1675, only Pepsi or full black bezel, it seem also than the black dial is rare on 1675.
I have the original box but not the papers.

Big Thanx

Hi there, you won't find many 'Coke' GMT 1675's as Rolex didn't sell them that way - only 'Pepsi' or all black bezel.

PS - the stainless GMT 1675 only came with a black dial.

Now a WHITE dial GMT IS rare but that was a 6542.

Good luck with the sale!

- Neil.

[DJE356]

But the watch was bought at a Rolex dealer like this in coke color.

ps: my father bought new a pepsi 1675 in 1968 with silver dial.

[Thani]

Originally Posted by DJE356

But the watch was bought at a Rolex dealer like this in coke color.

ps: my father bought new a pepsi 1675 in 1968 with silver dial.

please show pics of both watches if possible

thanks and welcome to TRF

[DJE356]

For the pics you will have to wait 2 days as they are in a secure place and i don't have access to it tonight, and tomorow i will go to my watch dealer to get a Jaeger Master Tourbillon.
Tonight i only have with me my Air-King 5600, my Chopard 1000 Miglia 2003 (28/2003) and my Royal Navy Hamilton Chrono circa 1972.

So anyone could give an idee for the price of a 1972 1675 GMT?

[jasper]

Hhhmm - what colour is the sky in your world?

[DJE356]

Originally Posted by jasper

Hhhmm - what colour is the sky in your world?

Green why?!!!

[etp095]

a picture is worth a thousand words,when you get time post the pics.you'll get the help you need.

[Thani]

Originally Posted by jasper

Hhhmm - what colour is the sky in your world?

looooool

[Welshwatchman]

A silver dialed SS GMT. That would be a rare dial indeed.

I would stick my neck out and say that you have been inadvertently mistaken.

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Originally Posted by etp095

a picture is worth a thousand words,when you get time post the pics.you'll get the help you need.

Agreed! Pics would be very helpful for us helping you.

[jasper]

Yes - the deal is that the 1675 came in black dial only,with a blue and red bezel. That's it, there weren't any other combinations except... A very very limited number of 1675 with white dials were issued to Pan Am office staff back in 1969? but these are very rare, and they still came with blue and red bezels only.

* Somewhere along the way I've seen references to GMT's with all blue dials, but I don't think these were 1675. A red herring.

At any rate the 1675 never came with a silver dial, and it never came with a black and red bezel, not from the factory anyway.

The model which followed the 1675 was the 16750, and this could be had with either a red/blue bezel, or an all black bezel - still no black/red and still never a silver dial. I have one of these, with both beel inserts, and I love it. If they made a red/black bezel, I'd have one of those too, but Rolex doesn't make one.

Subsequent GMT models, actually the GMT II, finally came with black and red bezels, but they still never had silver dials. The inserts fom the GMT II don't fit the GMT so there's no chance of having a GMT II bezel by mistake even.

So that's why the skepticism. You may as well say the sky is green where you live.

Pictures will help clear up the confusion though - I'm certain you are not crazy.

[mike]

As others have siad post some photos. The RED/Black insert made it's debut on the reference 16760 circa 1983. A genuine R/Blk insert has a different inner and outer diameter than those for the 1675.

[Lol-x]

The guys here have said it all there simply is not a genuine red/black bezel ever made for a 1675.
You could possibly have an aftermarket red/black bezel insert, but who knows, this can't be taken any further without photos.
P.S. Congrats on the JLC Master Tourbillon, a photo of that would be awesome.
So you must get the camera out

[DJE356]

Thanx for the reply guys, after got a talk to the precedent owner it's seem than he bought it as a "new old stock" 12 years ago but ask rolex to change the bezel as he don't like the Pepsi one. SHAME on him!
Anyway what do u think about it's value as it is in mint condition (as new).

For the Jaeger here is a picture:

[jasper]

Originally Posted by DJE356

Thanx for the reply guys, after got a talk to the precedent owner it's seem than he bought it as a "new old stock" 12 years ago but ask rolex to change the bezel as he don't like the Pepsi one. SHAME on him! Anyway what do u think about it's value as it is in mint condition (as new).

It's not possible to estimate a value since we don't know what type of watch it is.

That said, we've established it is *not* a 1675, or any GMT for that matter because it has a red/black bezel installed by Rolex. Rolex never made a red/black bezel insert for the GMT...only for the GMT II.

So, if it was bought as N.O.S. 12 years ago, then the watch would most likely be a GMT 16710 built in the mid 1990's. Estimated value $3800 - $4500?

Not a particularly exotic watch, but a nice piece nonetheless.

[DJE356]

It's shure a 1675 from 1972, it's just that's the bezel has been change.

[jasper]

Originally Posted by DJE356

It's shure a 1675 from 1972, it's just that's the bezel has been change.

Then the bezel can not be black/red...unless the bezel is not genuine rolex.

The black and red bezel was not "invented" until many years later, and that was for a different watch. The black and red bezel does not fit on a 1675.

[Lol-x]

Great looking JLC.

Here is my 1675 with aftermarket red/black bezel:

[DJE356]

It's exactly the same as yours Lol-X

[Trurolexer]

WELCOME TO TRF!!!

[springer]

There is some incorrect info being propogated here!!!

Some of this is a rehash, but the following is correct for the 1675 model GMT:

During early 1970's, the 1675 was available with the solid black, bezel insert.

No white dials were placed on the 1675 GMT's, unless it was some special dial, which I have never seen. It was available on an earlier GMT referred to as the PanAm GMT model 6542 made during the 1950's for Pan Am, but this wasn't the dial on the 1675 that you speak of.

The black and red insert was first used on the 16760 GMT, around 1983, and was never used on a 1675 or 16750 GMT.

There's the facts boys. If anyone disputes them, do some research. Class is out for now!!!!!!!!!!

[pwrslider]

Originally Posted by springer

Class is out for now!!!!!!!!!!

Oh man..I overslept again! Was there a test too??

[springer]

It was just a quiz....go back to sleep. Test to follow. LOL

[tudorman8276]

Originally Posted by springer

There is some incorrect info being propogated here!!!

Some of this is a rehash, but the following is correct for the 1675 model GMT:

During early 1970's, the 1675 was available with the solid black, bezel insert.

No white dials were placed on the 1675 GMT's, unless it was some special dial, which I have never seen. It was available on an earlier GMT referred to as the PanAm GMT model 6542 made during the 1950's for Pan Am, but this wasn't the dial on the 1675 that you speak of.

The black and red insert was first used on the 16760 GMT, around 1983, and was never used on a 1675 or 16750 GMT.

There's the facts boys. If anyone disputes them, do some research. Class is out for now!!!!!!!!!!

Hey John. GREAT POST!!!! Stan.