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Old 7 September 2015, 07:41 AM   #31
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China is not so cheap anymore and many companies are moving production back home or to other countries.
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Old 7 September 2015, 07:44 AM   #32
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It's a luxury item, of course you are paying an inflated price, has nothing to do with chinese parts or swiss parts, you're paying a premium for the name right off the bat, then the discussion of quality, etc comes after. I think you are missing the point. If Rolex or any other manufacturer moved any part of their business to China, they would still seek to charge the same price. Why would they move to China and lower or reduce their value, it would cheapen the brand.

If the argument is whether they have already secretly sourced parts for Rolexes in China but are aren't telling us but still paying a premium, this is also a non issue. Unless you have facts, no one will care about a suspicion, and if Rolex sourced parts from China it would depend on what part....and what percentage of the watch.....too much legalities. For me it's simple, the history, heritage and culture of the swiss watch industry would not allow a company like Rolex or AP to openly source major parts from China and or produce a watch outside of Switzerland. Their brand and prestige would suffer.
Exactly and well said Rashid.
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Old 7 September 2015, 08:35 AM   #33
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conflict

that's a pretty serious accusation. I am NOT trying to start any conflicts. I completely respect what the gentleman had to say about there's no need in replying to what others have said anything thats what causes complex and it's pretty disgusting that you would say that I'm using this form to do that. I think we should stick to the topic at hand and give your input based on that
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Old 7 September 2015, 06:36 PM   #34
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Exactly and well said Rashid.
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Old 7 September 2015, 09:23 PM   #35
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People still buy luxury cars from that Indian company, Jaguar.

Times change, things change.
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Old 7 September 2015, 10:35 PM   #36
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Well , not quite.



I am wondering where are somе of the famous batches of crystals (with wrong magnification) made?

The crystals are different than the Cyclops. The Cyclops is a bit that is glued onto the sapphire crystal. To my knowledge, there has not been any alleged problems with the sapphire crystals.

The mag on the Cyclops is a contentious subject with numerous other threads. No one who doesn't work at Rolex can say however whether they intentionally released the low mag Cyclops or why it's out in the wild. But the RSC will swap it out for free if you don't like it.

There's nothing that sounds like foreign outsourcing is at play for this bit of glass, so why would you infer there is?
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Old 8 September 2015, 01:22 AM   #37
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I've purchased three rolex watches new.... I purchased them not because of the name, but because I knew they were rugged, and functional... I saw them as a lifetime purchase. I have owned my watches for 30 and 20 years respectively (the third was stolen) and wear them regularly. I plan to wear them until I die, and then I expect my sons to wear them.... I'm not a collector per se, but a daily wearer. I imagine that people like me are a significant part of the population of buyers. We all buy things made in china regularly, some are very expensive, but have you ever purchased anything made in china that you plan to own for thirty plus years? Iphones, laptops, televisions, even guitars... all these are basically going to be junked or unloaded in a relatively short period of time, and all will eventually fail. My opinion is that people like me would NEVER purchase a rolex either made in or made with parts sourced from China or any other second tier economy.
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Old 8 September 2015, 01:25 AM   #38
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Nah...don't think so.
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Old 8 September 2015, 01:36 AM   #39
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Sorry I didn't realize you were Kunlun... let him fight his own battles I'm sure he's a big boy
So someone steps in and offers you guidance and that's how you respond?

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Sounds like hes just trying to create an enviroment of conflict. Some people thrive on that. Who the heck made any mention of arguing or fighting battles over this...the OP.
Maybe it's a full moon or something

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It's a luxury item, of course you are paying an inflated price, has nothing to do with chinese parts or swiss parts, you're paying a premium for the name right off the bat, then the discussion of quality, etc comes after. I think you are missing the point. If Rolex or any other manufacturer moved any part of their business to China, they would still seek to charge the same price. Why would they move to China and lower or reduce their value, it would cheapen the brand.

If the argument is whether they have already secretly sourced parts for Rolexes in China but are aren't telling us but still paying a premium, this is also a non issue. Unless you have facts, no one will care about a suspicion, and if Rolex sourced parts from China it would depend on what part....and what percentage of the watch.....too much legalities. For me it's simple, the history, heritage and culture of the swiss watch industry would not allow a company like Rolex or AP to openly source major parts from China and or produce a watch outside of Switzerland. Their brand and prestige would suffer.
Well said, sir
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It's a luxury item, of course you are paying an inflated price, has nothing to do with chinese parts or swiss parts, you're paying a premium for the name right off the bat, then the discussion of quality, etc comes after. I think you are missing the point. If Rolex or any other manufacturer moved any part of their business to China, they would still seek to charge the same price. Why would they move to China and lower or reduce their value, it would cheapen the brand.

If the argument is whether they have already secretly sourced parts for Rolexes in China but are aren't telling us but still paying a premium, this is also a non issue. Unless you have facts, no one will care about a suspicion, and if Rolex sourced parts from China it would depend on what part....and what percentage of the watch.....too much legalities. For me it's simple, the history, heritage and culture of the swiss watch industry would not allow a company like Rolex or AP to openly source major parts from China and or produce a watch outside of Switzerland. Their brand and prestige would suffer.
Well said Rashid and myself have had enough of this made in China nonsense so subject is closed before I might have to close someones account.
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