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[live1]

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[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by live1

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Please resize your photo. That was way too big.

[live1]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

What makes you think that? The RSC just replaced the pearl on it, since that pic was taken.

The hole in the cannon pinion.also the dial print and marker surrounds, and uneven hands colour minute hand has white lume not creamy.also the seconds hand is too short it should reach the chapter ring .but the big hole in the cannon pinion makes it obvious.the mid hump of the end link is too round as well

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by live1

The hole in the cannon pinion.also the dial and uneven hands

Look ok to me

[live1]

Sorry my pics are massive and I have no idea why ?they are normally ok.ps the seconds hand is too short on the at fake it should reach the chapter ring

[Old Expat Beast]

Mine has a hole like that, and it came from an AD and was regulated by the RSC. As for the seconds hand, I think it is the angle of the watch.

[live1]

here is mine u can clearly see his looks off

[Old Expat Beast]

It still looks good to me but I am on my iPad mini. I think it's just light and angles.

[live1]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

It still looks good to me but I am on my iPad mini. I think it's just light and angles.

It's not right bro.I'm serious it's nothing like the real deal.but anyway we don't talk about this here.ps look at the hand stack that also wrong it should step from small to big

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by live1

It's not right bro.I'm serious it's nothing like the real deal.but anyway we don't talk about this here

I'll be the judge of that. If you're going to call someone out for posting a fake, it needs to be sorted out.

[live1]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I'll be the judge of that. If you're going to call someone out for posting a fake, it needs to be sorted out.

Exactly I didnt think u would like talk of fake here that's why I said we should not mention it.but I wasnt being malicious I just noticed that this bb was not real.maybe I should of not mentioned it.and sorry if I did anything wrong.but it's obvious to my eye.there are lots of these bb on instagram

[arguetaoscar]

Originally Posted by live1

Exactly I didnt think u would like talk of fake here that's why I said we should not mention it.but I wasnt being malicious I just noticed that this bb was not real.maybe I should of not mentioned it.and sorry if I did anything wrong.but it's obvious to my eye.

RSC replaced the lume dot and William Barthman (an AD quoted me $85 to replace the bezel) I doubt that a RSC watchmaker would have touched a fake. Anyway, sending a few more pics, I bought it from a trusted seller.

Expat, do you recommend bringing it again for the sole purpose to check the movement and authenticity?

Thank you-


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[live1]

Originally Posted by arguetaoscar

RSC replaced the lume dot and William Barthman (an AD quoted me $85 to replace the bezel) I doubt that a RSC watchmaker would have touched a fake. Anyway, sending a few more pics, I bought it from a trusted seller.

Expat, do you recommend bringing it again for the sole purpose to check the movement and authenticity?

Thank you-


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Clearly that is not legit evwn the pearl is wrong the sub is real obviously

[live1]

Hey argue I'm not trying to be an asshole to u i just noticed it wasnt legit .and should have probably kept my mouth shut lovey sub c btw

[Nixmazda1]

Originally Posted by live1

Clearly that is not legit evwn the pearl is wrong the sub is real obviously

I have to agree... Here's my real one

[Old Expat Beast]

PM sent.

[arguetaoscar]

Originally Posted by live1

Hey argue I'm not trying to be an asshole to u. And lovey sub c

That is the pearl RSC replace it with, they did it as a favor and did not replace the bezel. I know is missing the cup, but beggars can't be choosers. Here is an older pic before the lume dot fell.



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[live1]

Originally Posted by arguetaoscar

That is the pearl RSC replace it with, they did it as a favor and did not replace the bezel. I know is missing the cup, but beggars can't be choosers. Here is an older pic before the lume dot fell.



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It's 100 percent fake I'm afraid evwn the inside edge of the insert is round it should be flat.the hands should have creamy lume. But I'll say no more and let you sort it out

[arguetaoscar]

Originally Posted by live1

It's 100 percent fake I'm afraid evwn the inside edge of the insert is round it should be flat.the hands should have creamy lume. But I'll say no more and let you sort it out

I will bring it to an AD in person today and have them look at it, thank you for the comments. I will update later today.



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[live1]

Originally Posted by arguetaoscar

I will bring it to an AD in person today and have them look at it, thank you for the comments. I will update later today.



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Good luck hopefully u get your money back.also ads are not that savvy and may not know the difference.I know in my local ad they could not tell a fake from a real one ,But RSC will tell u in a heartbeat

[arguetaoscar]

Took the watch to an AD William Barthman in NYC and the watchmaker inspected it, and said is all good. I'm not sure if variations you see are from one year to another of production. However, I doubt 2 watchmakers 1 from RSC and another from a Rolex/Tudor AD will not immediately recognized a fake. Thank you for your observations but I would advise next time be 100% sure before posting something in a public forum.
Here is a bit of candy for the eye, while waiting.
Blue Pelagos is awesome by the way!





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[live1]

Originally Posted by arguetaoscar

Took the watch to an AD William Barthman in NYC and the watchmaker inspected it, and said is all good. I'm not sure if variations you see are from one year to another of production. However, I doubt 2 watchmakers 1 from RSC and another from a Rolex/Tudor AD will not immediately recognized a fake. Thank you for your observations but I would advise next time be 100% sure before posting something in a public forum.
Here is a bit of candy for the eye, while waiting.
Blue Pelagos is awesome by the way!





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I am still 100 percent sure it's fake.I had a feeling you was going to say you went ad and they said it was real.anyway whatever as long as your happy with it;)

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by live1

It's 100 percent fake I'm afraid evwn the inside edge of the insert is round it should be flat.the hands should have creamy lume. But I'll say no more and let you sort it out

I have had a closer look at this photo you are commenting on and can't see a problem. The lume comment is invalid because the BB lume can look from creamy to white, depending on lighting conditions. He has had two watchmakers look at it, one at the RSC. To call this "100 percent fake" is rash at best, especially from someone who was recently worried about the loose fit on the endlinks on their own BB.

Three previous threads that you have started about the Black Bay have been locked, let's not close this one, too.

[lsettle]

Did the watch come with a complete kit, box and papers? I do not think an AD would be able to tell the difference.

Lawrence

[JDBCN]

Looks fine to me except that detail in the center. If I owned one I would definitely take it to a third dealer to have it checked


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[cdbeaver66]

In comparison to mine it looks fine. I believe it to be the angle of the shot. Hands stack is clearer on the most recent images and step from small to big as mentioned.

[arguetaoscar]

So after going to an AD yesterday, and still getting an "is 100 percent fake" from live1 based on a picture and no real backup or expertise on Rolex/Tudor watches. I went to RSC NYC today filled out the form and explained authenticity concerns and interest in purchasing new spring bars to the customer service rep (Shawn). After 45minutes He came back and said "Oscar here are some free spring bars for you, and the watch is authentic; we would never touch a fake watch"

So again before making comments I would advise:
1-have enough back up and knowledge of what you are talking about.
2-even if it is a controversial comment, be mindful on how the message is delivered.

This has been somewhat uncomfortable for me, but that's fine.
As Adam (Old Expat Beast) said in his last comment let's keep this thread going!

Also, again what great service provided by RSC NYC.






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[JDBCN]

Congratulations! I'm sorry you went through all this stress. Let's all enjoy our wonderful Black Bays


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[Hammer]

Glad everything turned out ok for you.

[HL65]

Originally Posted by live1

I am still 100 percent sure it's fake.I had a feeling you was going to say you went ad and they said it was real.anyway whatever as long as your happy with it;)

And you are 100% wrong and owe him an apology. Stick to things you actually know about perhaps and do us all a favor before you cause someone so much unneeded grief.