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Old 18 March 2015, 09:53 AM   #61
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So you're ignoring that you could also buy the floor model from the furniture store??? For a significant discount??? Your "stickered" watch may have been handled by over 100 customers before you bought it! How is that new? Furthermore, you'll get a minimal discount, if any...
No, not ignoring it, but the display piece usually is not for sale at all unless it's being discontinued or some such thing. And if it's all beaten up from people sitting on it and kids wiping there noses on the cushions, well then it should be discounted. But Rolex watches don't take a beating like that. They aren't let out for "test drives", they aren't "used" so to speak. So someone has tried it on or picked it up to look at before you. Does that constitute it is now a used watch? In that case I assume you also consider 2nd hand and demand heavy discounts on clothing, produce, and shoes. Have you never left the shoe store with a pair of shoes at the sticker price? Lord knows how many feet have been in it before you.

Look, I respect your opinion. I just don't see it that way and I'm not trying to convince you one way or the other.
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Old 18 March 2015, 11:37 AM   #62
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I purchased my z-series (bracelet code is 2006) NOS Sea-Dweller in 2011 at a small AD in a small town. They also had a 10460M 2-liner (which a friend bought), 36mm Explorer, Explorer II with lug holes. They also had a SS Daytona in display.

A near by town AD had another SS Daytona, and an M series 16610LV.

Interestingly enough sports models were not big sellers... people in these parts preferred Datejust and DayDate.
wow, where do you live dude? I would have options like that for old stock. No such thing here in DC
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Old 22 March 2015, 03:49 AM   #63
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wow, where do you live dude? I would have options like that for old stock. No such thing here in DC

I used to travel a lot due to work.. Whenever I was at a new place I always went by the local AD. This was in Lufkin, Texas, where Charlie Wilson was from (Wilson's War)

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Old 22 March 2015, 04:18 AM   #64
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Ha this question and my affinity for my watch coming straight from the shipping carton is why I always ask if theres one in the vault still packaged up. Many times there are and bingo, I'm a happy camper.
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Old 24 March 2015, 08:14 AM   #65
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I used to travel a lot due to work.. Whenever I was at a new place I always went by the local AD. This was in Lufkin, Texas, where Charlie Wilson was from (Wilson's War)

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Old 24 March 2015, 08:18 AM   #66
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I have my AD order my pieces for this reason alone: Their showcase watches sit. When they sit, they get handled by numerous tire kickers--kinda like floor model couches. Nonetheless, they want you to buy these floor model watches at retail prices. Not me. Ever.
I am 100% with you.
I own numerous Rolex watches and after Switzerland, I am the first to touch it.
The term I use is "fresh".
Let the unknowing buy the handled goods.
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Old 24 March 2015, 08:54 AM   #67
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I guess it would be possible to buy a watch that would need to be serviced right away if it had been sitting at an AD for 8 years?
I'm aware of one collector that bought one that sat for 6 years. It was serviced.
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Old 24 March 2015, 09:54 AM   #68
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A post on another watch forum (sshhhhh) showed a picture of an AD's inventory and the number of days Rolex watches were in inventory, and depending on the model, some were approaching 1800 days (nearly 5 years).
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Old 24 March 2015, 11:32 AM   #69
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they still have Z and V series new old stock in some AD that are 6-7 years old with 2 year warranty and stickers hanging by a thread from age...
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Old 24 March 2015, 12:31 PM   #70
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I prefer my crowns to be facing up. Just saying.
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Old 24 March 2015, 01:32 PM   #71
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Does "handling" really affect a watch much? I presume the display models are picked up every night and put into a safe.
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Old 24 March 2015, 01:48 PM   #72
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Does "handling" really affect a watch much? I presume the display models are picked up every night and put into a safe.
If you're talking about anything polished, like some cases or center links, then definitely. An employee at a jeweler wants to put that shit away asap and get out...

Then you consider all the tire kickers coming through--yanking on those crowns, turning the hands counter-clockwise, dropping the watches on the display case, etc... Yeah, no thanks. Those watches are used, and there's nothing anyone in here can say to convince me otherwise..
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Old 24 March 2015, 02:59 PM   #73
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If you're talking about anything polished, like some cases or center links, then definitely. An employee at a jeweler wants to put that shit away asap and get out...
So look at the watch. If it's scratched don't buy it.

Now that Rolex wraps everything in protective plastic, it's easier to find a good one in stock.
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Old 4 July 2015, 11:04 PM   #74
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my 14060M is a M serial which I purchased in 2010, which suggests it sat in the AD window for the best part of 2 years. I don't think it was a particularly popular seller, most people choose the Date Sub.
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Old 5 July 2015, 01:40 AM   #75
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But when I bought my watch SS Daytona from an AD recently, they had only one piece and it was fully stickered. They told my yes it was tried on as it was the only piece but it was stickered and wrapped so no scratches, that's what they said. I purchased that piece in the end. Knowing that I had no other choice in the sense. Where they would not have a spare one in stock to sell.
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Old 5 July 2015, 02:07 AM   #76
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Man, so did it need serviced as quick as you purchased it?
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I recently bought a watch from my AD that he had for 8 years. They keep the watches until they sell them.
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Old 5 July 2015, 02:09 AM   #77
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According to them... seconds.
Ain't that the truth. If you ask them people camp out like the opening of a new Star Wars movie waiting for the next BLNR to arrive.
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Old 5 July 2015, 02:55 AM   #78
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I'm sure some models will sit a VERY long time.
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Old 5 July 2015, 05:53 AM   #79
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I was at my local Ben Bridge a month back and they has a "new" 214270 Explorer in the case with a scratch on the crystal(1/32"). I was surprised to see it on there but the salesmen didn't seem as surprised. Just sayin'
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Old 5 July 2015, 06:20 AM   #80
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If you're talking about anything polished, like some cases or center links, then definitely. An employee at a jeweler wants to put that shit away asap and get out...



Then you consider all the tire kickers coming through--yanking on those crowns, turning the hands counter-clockwise, dropping the watches on the display case, etc... Yeah, no thanks. Those watches are used, and there's nothing anyone in here can say to convince me otherwise..

Is it bad to turn them counter clockwise?
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Old 5 July 2015, 06:38 AM   #81
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Is it bad to turn them counter clockwise?
First I have heard of this. Older models with the date changing... maybe, but not on new models. YMII may be different.
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Old 5 July 2015, 10:01 AM   #82
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A post on another watch forum (sshhhhh) showed a picture of an AD's inventory and the number of days Rolex watches were in inventory, and depending on the model, some were approaching 1800 days (nearly 5 years).
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Old 5 July 2015, 11:04 AM   #83
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is there a way to know what year a watch was made? Thank you
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Old 5 July 2015, 05:16 PM   #84
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Well random serial numbers will sadly end this conversation and edge that a buyer has with an AD or seller.
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Old 23 October 2015, 06:05 AM   #85
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I had a thought -- Rolex likely has a ware house full of watches in coffins sitting for years to send out as they don't change SO Would it not be logical that the brand new 2015 watch was made in 2012 ? Remember they make a million watches a year so they cant all be zoom strait to the AD . If this mystery ware house exists full of gold gems with random CN waiting to get ordered should not there be stock reduction sales when new upgraded models come out ? I think we need someone in inventory management to figure this out as I seem to of mudded it up :)
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I had a thought -- Rolex likely has a ware house full of watches in coffins sitting for years to send out as they don't change SO Would it not be logical that the brand new 2015 watch was made in 2012 ? Remember they make a million watches a year so they cant all be zoom strait to the AD . If this mystery ware house exists full of gold gems with random CN waiting to get ordered should not there be stock reduction sales when new upgraded models come out ? I think we need someone in inventory management to figure this out as I seem to of mudded it up :)
I'm sure they slowly phase out the production of "non-upgraded" models over a few years so they don't end up in that situation.

My guess is part of their impetus to go to random serial numbers was so that customers don't complain about buying a new watch at an AD that has a 2 year old serial number.
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The auto lot is a bad example when talking about leasing though... people who lease don't care about taking a car off the lot because they'll never own it anyway...and most people lease...
Most people lease? That's news to me.
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