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12 March 2016, 11:18 AM
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When is a watch considered vintage?
Just curious, when does everyone consider a watch to be vintage? 80s 90s early 00's?
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12 March 2016, 11:24 AM
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When it's 20 years old.
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12 March 2016, 12:46 PM
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depends on the make...taking into consideration their 'golden era' of production & manufacturing (if any) + the current status of their product line & overall quality today.
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12 March 2016, 05:16 PM
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20 years old seems reasonable, however I don't think of late 90's watches as vintage. :-/
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12 March 2016, 07:42 PM
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The term vintage is well over used in watch collecting. I have a 1981 Rolex Freccione and would never dream of calling it a vintage piece. It is only 35 years old and nothing in the world is vintage at that age. If you don't believe me, try telling your wife she's a vintage piece once she's hit 30 and see what you get served up for dinner. Probably something messy over your head. Regards Mick |
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12 March 2016, 08:23 PM
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I agree with the wife part too. Dinner over the head would be getting off easy. |
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12 March 2016, 09:13 PM
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From Ruby Lane:
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12 March 2016, 10:31 PM
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In 1985 I bought my first car which was a 1965 Ford Mustang and was undeniably vintage. In 1995 I bought a leisure suit for a Halloween party and that was quite vintage. Watches that are 20 years old but of a current design, that's tricky because they fit the age criteria but not the out-of-style or old-technology criteria. 1996 Submariner is not vintage, 1996 Casio Mr. G is vintage. |
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12 March 2016, 10:51 PM
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Plexi and a 4 number reference will get you a looong way
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13 March 2016, 01:33 AM
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TTG, now we have one thread to add to the list...
 
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13 March 2016, 02:31 AM
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Plexi and tritium.
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13 March 2016, 02:46 AM
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A good rule of thumb is 4 digit Rolex I believe
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13 March 2016, 04:23 AM
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I don't think of my Zenith Daytona as vintage, but it's definitely archaic: Rolex will never use Zenith movements again, that era is past, but it is in every way a modern Rolex. The trend I see in the market is that any model that is not available as new stock from an AD is considered "secondary market" and is usually called "vintage" for marketing purposes. Also, sounds better, like "pre-owned" for "used". 20 years is the rule in most states for cars, that's why people reach for that 20-year mark in other areas.
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13 March 2016, 05:00 AM
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This is a great question!!!!
BTW, the answer is 1983.
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13 March 2016, 05:42 AM
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Vintage can simply mean something from the past or of a recognisable era or time. Hence the term, "70's vintage clothing". Is a Zenith Daytona now vintage? Probably yes.
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13 March 2016, 05:50 AM
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27 years+ as far as I know.
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13 March 2016, 06:06 AM
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13 March 2016, 07:43 AM
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13 March 2016, 07:52 AM
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13 March 2016, 09:05 AM
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I belong to the Vintage Motor Cycle Club and the definition of vintage is pre 1935, whether the same applies to cars, I don't really know. The true definition of vintage only applies to wine, so in the truest sense, the term vintage is being misused when referring to anything else. To be honest, I really think that the term is over used somewhat and if I had to make an arbitrary stab, I would say any watch pre WW2 could be considered vintage. I would list age categories in the order of :- current, old, vintage and antique. It is really a discussion that can never have a conclusion because it is just so subjective. Regards Mick |
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13 March 2016, 09:06 AM
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if a hoarder had 30+ years of accumulated crap in his/her house, it could be rationalized as a collection of sorts...but of questionable vintage. there is an ongoing as well as misleading concept in regards to things looked upon as vintage...younger people tend to consider more recently made items as vintage because they haven't been around that long...they have a shorter frame of reference. something that is only 20 years old can appear to be more vintage to a 25 year-old than it would to someone who is middle-aged or older. the history & quality of the item being discussed + its manufacturer's reputation & time in business also goes a long way in establishing whether something is truly vintage. all in all...with the exception of wine, the term vintage tends to get overused/abused by wily peddlers & those who tend to overestimate the extrinsic values of their accumulations. |
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13 March 2016, 10:16 AM
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Here you go. Not much more to add.
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13 March 2016, 10:18 AM
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Every year wine is released is an individual vintage, it's a different usage of the term.
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13 March 2016, 05:37 PM
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16 March 2016, 11:22 AM
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In the classic car world, typically antique is 50 years old or older and 25 years to 49 is considered vintage (or classic). Not certain if it applies to timepieces.
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16 March 2016, 04:58 PM
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No metal surrounds on the 5 minute markers is a big line in the sand for me.......
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18 March 2016, 02:08 AM
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'80s Sub 4 digit reference, Acrylic crystal but WG surround plots...vintage?
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