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Old 10 May 2016, 01:24 AM   #1
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I also agree with your statement about the overuse of the term. To me grail is something almost unattainable without some sort of outside sources. Something tenable even if it takes 10 years to be isn't considered a grail. Buying a DD40 or a gold sub is on my list to get. May take 5 years but doesn't mean its a grail. A grail in my opinion is a PP Grand Complication $150k. Most people cant or will justify having a watch that expensive and most would need some sort of outside source to obtain that. Selling of a company, Winning the lottery, Inheriting, inventing something.

So while most of you say its a term of defined goal i think its more of an unattainable goal which if for some how you do get it you've finally gotten your grail.
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Old 10 May 2016, 01:46 AM   #2
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Old 10 May 2016, 01:53 AM   #3
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Yes because people's likes and desires are constantly changing.
I was sure that a white Daytona was my "grail" watch.
I finally got one and flipped it 6 weeks later. Go figure...
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Old 10 May 2016, 01:53 AM   #4
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Grail

Grail, epic, awesome, ultimate, super. We love our adjectives don't we?
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Old 10 May 2016, 02:01 AM   #5
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Absolutely not!

Absolutely not!

When you finally get your grail you should use it as often as you can!

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Old 10 May 2016, 02:34 AM   #6
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absolutely...overused.
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Old 10 May 2016, 02:54 AM   #7
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Grail is definitely an overused term. I have to admit, my "grail" changes quite often, but they are always pieces that I may never have in my hands. My grail has recently changed from PP5970 / PP5270 to the ALS Tourbillon Dataograph Perpetual. To me, both are near unobtainable ( maybe with a small glimmer of hope ). Everything else is a goal.
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Old 10 May 2016, 03:19 AM   #8
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It seems the term "grail" is used on TRF with the same fervor as a similarly minded person would have for the words "vegan" "crossfit" and "herbalife" on their social media profiles. Some people just need the attention.
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Old 10 May 2016, 03:25 AM   #9
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It is over used...
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Old 10 May 2016, 03:36 AM   #10
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Exaggerations are used so frequently, that I think many words are mostly meaningless. It seems that people want to be heard, taken seriously, and in general there is a desire to have others pay attention to what is being said. If one uses an exaggeration, then others will pay attention ... that's the feeling that I am left with. So if one doesn't exaggerate, then others won't pay attention.

Roughly five years ago I turned off my TV and haven't watched 30 seconds since then. I got to the point that the use of exaggerations were too much to take. Of course it wasn't just the exaggerations, but also the quality of the content that finally convinced me that TV was a waste of my time.

Is grail overused? How about awesome, infinity, largest, most, extremely, vicious, huge, priceless, very, very very, very very large, tiny, very very small, ....
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Old 10 May 2016, 03:54 AM   #11
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It's not about money, just because something costs 10 x your annual income doesn't make it a grail. If it was about the value then in legend the knights would simply have paid for someone else to find it for them.

A specific model of 70's Casio could be your grail if you've always wanted to replace the very first watch you were given as a child, for example, if they were so cheap and common that they were all thrown out when they broke. Cars that were crushed by the thousands in years gone are now the target of detailed searches by collectors and I'm sure the same is true for watches.

Equally it doesn't matter if it takes a month or a lifetime to find it, what matters is what made it hard to obtain. You could find the Casio after a few weeks of searching, then never see another one for sale until the day you die. To me, that would still have been a grail due to the rarity and not because of it's value.

You might have to save for a common watch, that's seriously expensive, for decades. To you that SS Sub might be a grail on your janitors salary, while working overtime and a second job to put your kids through college, while others may put a few thousand a month away to buy their $150 complication. The effect is the same even if the value isn't.

The knights didn't set out to find something that was impossible to find, it just turned out that way. If there's a chance you won't get your grail watch, for whatever reason, then it's a grail in my book.
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Old 10 May 2016, 10:11 AM   #12
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It's not about money, just because something costs 10 x your annual income doesn't make it a grail. If it was about the value then in legend the knights would simply have paid for someone else to find it for them.

A specific model of 70's Casio could be your grail if you've always wanted to replace the very first watch you were given as a child, for example, if they were so cheap and common that they were all thrown out when they broke. Cars that were crushed by the thousands in years gone are now the target of detailed searches by collectors and I'm sure the same is true for watches.

Equally it doesn't matter if it takes a month or a lifetime to find it, what matters is what made it hard to obtain. You could find the Casio after a few weeks of searching, then never see another one for sale until the day you die. To me, that would still have been a grail due to the rarity and not because of it's value.

You might have to save for a common watch, that's seriously expensive, for decades. To you that SS Sub might be a grail on your janitors salary, while working overtime and a second job to put your kids through college, while others may put a few thousand a month away to buy their $150 complication. The effect is the same even if the value isn't.

The knights didn't set out to find something that was impossible to find, it just turned out that way. If there's a chance you won't get your grail watch, for whatever reason, then it's a grail in my book.


Agree!
It's not about money or about time. In my opinion it's about that watch that will last an eternity. The one you will keep forever. Maybe the one that ends future purchases.
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Old 10 May 2016, 04:45 AM   #13
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While I think grail is overused and has become a bit of a catch-all term for highly desired, I also don't think there is much utility in referring to a grail as an item you will never buy. I think prefixing the word grail with a time period would help, thus this watch is my 5 year or 9 month grail gives us all an idea of how the watch is valued.
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Old 10 May 2016, 04:51 AM   #14
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For me building up the collection of models I liked was relatively easy; once I had it, then the grail really came to mind!!!
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Old 10 May 2016, 05:21 AM   #15
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Absolutely - the word has been used ad nauseam that I think it has lost it's meaning. "Grail" is now the new "newly purchased whatever."

Grail, as someone pointed out, should be a watch that is unattainable and should never be used with the words: "finally got my" or "incoming". JMHO.
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Old 10 May 2016, 06:05 AM   #16
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Old 10 May 2016, 06:21 AM   #17
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This is an interesting question!. As I pondered how to respond, one thing kept coming to mind. More often than not, I no longer even bother to open/read the "My Grail has arrived" threads because it's often a Sub, GMT, or something else relatively common. Now I don't mean any disrespect to those individuals.....each of those watches are wonderful acquisitions and an accomplishment to be proud of. But a "Grail "?....no.

So that line of logic leads me to believe the term is overrated.
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Old 10 May 2016, 06:36 AM   #18
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Old 10 May 2016, 06:53 AM   #19
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I definitely think that the term grail is overused, because every time you get your grail, something comes along that you want to get.
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Old 10 May 2016, 08:57 AM   #20
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The grail of today is yesterday's watch. I can always find another one later that I like; it may not even be made today.
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Old 10 May 2016, 09:03 AM   #21
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Definitely. That is because watch collecting / flipping is a continuous hobby. My previous grail was the SS daytona. I feel I have the next "Grail" in mind. One thing for sure is that im enjoying the whole process
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What is a "Grill" watch.

I got the Grail, but what is this new grill term used?
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What is a "Grill" watch.



I got the Grail, but what is this new grill term used?


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Grail, hero, artist.... So many abused words.
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Old 10 May 2016, 09:27 AM   #25
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Overused I think.
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Old 10 May 2016, 01:04 PM   #26
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yes...

it is "grail" until next year's baselworld
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Old 10 May 2016, 01:19 PM   #27
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For the record, I could go my entire lifetime and not obtain my grail, but there's no way I could even consider living over three months without my grill!!!
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Old 10 May 2016, 02:09 PM   #28
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Way overused. A grail for me would be a Mil Sub. They are rare, hard to find, and I will probably never spend the funds to get one unless a lot of financial things changed in my life.

Too often we hear about people picking up "grails" when they really mean they finally saved up enough or perhaps just finally decided to get a watch they've liked for a long time. While I love hearing stories about watches that people have coveted for a long time and finally get, I am not sure they all qualify as "grails." I also kind of find the word annoying secondary its overuse.
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Old 10 May 2016, 02:14 PM   #29
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Grail may have different definitions to different people. Always being a timepiece lover since I was really young, I always aspired to own a 16610, 16710 and a 16613. Had/have them all.

I think a grail is a piece you have longed for for years...with the seed being planted at a young age...at least for me.
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