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Old 16 May 2016, 12:20 PM   #31
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I had a SubDate for 6 years and I recently purchased a Daytona 116520. I haven't looked back since. Love my new watch


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Old 16 May 2016, 12:24 PM   #32
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But no date watches are so much sexier


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There's nothing unsexy about complications to me...

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Old 16 May 2016, 12:30 PM   #33
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Old 16 May 2016, 12:35 PM   #34
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When you rise in the morning, look at your phone and take note of the date and remember it.

If you cannot remember the date, arrange an appointment with your doctor and do it fast. This is assuming you can remember the name of your doctor.

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I can't remember where I put my phone....
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Old 16 May 2016, 12:36 PM   #35
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There's nothing unsexy about complications to me...

Obviously complications have a place, and they can add to the overall aesthetic appeal of a watch. Your example is evidence of that. I'm sure no one would ever say about that VC, 'Gee, if only it didn't have a date. Completely ruined'

I'm not saying all complications ruin watches, rather that on more simple watches the date does often intrude on their otherwise simplistic and clean design. This is often exacerbated by poor date wheel colour choice, awkward date placement on the dial, 'interesting' date fonts and general alignment and/or magnification issues with regards to the date.
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Old 16 May 2016, 03:49 PM   #36
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Obviously complications have a place, and they can add to the overall aesthetic appeal of a watch. Your example is evidence of that. I'm sure no one would ever say about that VC, 'Gee, if only it didn't have a date. Completely ruined'

I'm not saying all complications ruin watches, rather that on more simple watches the date does often intrude on their otherwise simplistic and clean design. This is often exacerbated by poor date wheel colour choice, awkward date placement on the dial, 'interesting' date fonts and general alignment and/or magnification issues with regards to the date.
I know, I was just kidding around with that insane VC.

Imagine how clean the dials on some of these watches would be if they didn't bother with the time complication! Just a metal case with a blank dial.
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Old 16 May 2016, 03:52 PM   #37
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I know, I was just kidding around with that insane VC.

Imagine how clean the dials on some of these watches would be if they didn't bother with the time complication! Just a metal case with a blank dial.
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Old 16 May 2016, 03:55 PM   #38
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I mean, we have our cell phones for the time anyways, right?
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Old 16 May 2016, 07:31 PM   #39
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Controversial issue amongst watch enthusiasts for ever...
Depends on how everyone is using their watch. As a device to admire or as a tool?
Rolex did become very well known due to their quality, finctionality, endurance and solutions they offered to different problems and situations.
Think of the submariner, milgauss, gmt, explorer II etc....
For me personally the option of a date or no date watch in all their line up would be most welcome, similar to the date, no date submariner in the past.
What someone likes, someone else might find awful, it is only a matter of taste at the end isn't it?


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Old 16 May 2016, 07:35 PM   #40
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I've been wearing my Daytona on and off for a few weeks now, rotating between the 116520 and a 116710.



It's just an observation the things you don't think about until you realize how much you rely on it.



The lack of date on my Daytona keeps me reaching for the GMT.



Anyone else?


That's about the only reason i don't own a Daytona.
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Old 16 May 2016, 07:42 PM   #41
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I sit in front of a laptop 18 hours a day. I have a phone on me 24 hours a day. The date is visible most of the time, how many times a day do you need to check the date anyway. I agree the date is useful and my other Rolex has this, but a Daytona wouldn't look as good with a date window and cyclops. Simple as that really. A sub shouldn't really have the date either, looks better without. As people have said the GMT master is the better choice if date on a sports/tool watch is a must.
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Old 16 May 2016, 08:11 PM   #42
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When I began to primarily wear a watch without a date function, I was concerned about not having that function, but did OK for a couple of years

Then when I switched back to primarily wearing a watch with a date, realized how much more convenient it is to have that feature on a watch

Sure, it's not really that hard to be aware of the date each day, and one can get used to doing that, but with our busy lives and seemingly growing number of things to remember (passwords for every account, etc), I've come to prefer having one less thing to be cognizant of throughout the day

Yes, it is true that we have phones, laptops, car dashboards, etc. that display the date, but extending that argument, why even wear watches? Far more things around us (stereos, cable boxes, DVD players, microwaves, etc) display the time than the date.

I find having a watch for the time and date is most convenient because I always know there is one place I can look to, my wrist, for that information. If I'm in my office vs the living room vs the kitchen vs my car, etc, would have to remember where to look for that information if I didn't wear my watch, and my phone is not with me at all times.

Plus, I love looking at my watch!



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Old 16 May 2016, 08:24 PM   #43
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The date is not a deal breaker for me. Once I know or think about it I know. The ND Sub is a thing of beauty with a perfectly balanced dial. To each their own.
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Old 16 May 2016, 10:42 PM   #44
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Friends. As I mentioned previously in this thread, if you really want a date on your Daytona or no date submariner there are ways to create this. On the no date sub you can set the Pearl to the appropriate minute on the dial in the morning (creating a date). On the Daytona you can start the chronograph in the morning and stop it on the days date. This also adds functionality to these pieces as I would guess that the majority do not use the timing bezel and chronograph on a regular basis. Obviously this is not optimal but there are little tricks....so don't let it stop you from buying these beautiful time pieces

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Old 17 May 2016, 04:41 AM   #45
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Friends. As I mentioned previously in this thread, if you really want a date on your Daytona or no date submariner there are ways to create this. On the no date sub you can set the Pearl to the appropriate minute on the dial in the morning (creating a date). On the Daytona you can start the chronograph in the morning and stop it on the days date. This also adds functionality to these pieces as I would guess that the majority do not use the timing bezel and chronograph on a regular basis. Obviously this is not optimal but there are little tricks....so don't let it stop you from buying these beautiful time pieces

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That wouldn't work with my Sub. I also use the timing bezel quite frequently.

I think the bottom line is that any complication displayed on a mechanical watch, including the time, can be accessed on something like a cell phone, but that doesn't preclude the mechanical watch's usefulness, as the point of a wrist watch was always to make accessing the time and other functions more conveniently (especially if coming from a pocket watch.)
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Old 17 May 2016, 04:54 AM   #46
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Let me ask you this, how would you or Rolex add a date to the Daytona? Where would it go and still not significantly change the way this iconic watch looks?
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Old 17 May 2016, 05:03 AM   #47
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Let me ask you this, how would you or Rolex add a date to the Daytona? Where would it go and still not significantly change the way this iconic watch looks?

This way for instance.

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Old 17 May 2016, 06:16 AM   #48
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Maybe I am wrong but no Daytona has ever had the Chrono dials in that orientation before? Rolex also never put their logo in that position? You see, it can't be done without drastically changing the watch. The picture you have posted is a chrono yes but not a Rolex nor a Daytona for the reasons I mentioned.
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Old 17 May 2016, 06:24 AM   #49
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When you rise in the morning, look at your phone and take note of the date and remember it.

If you cannot remember the date, arrange an appointment with your doctor and do it fast. This is assuming you can remember the name of your doctor.

Regards

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I took your advice and made an appointment with the doctor.
I then promptly missed the appointment for lack of recalling it.

In other words, I gotta have my date wheel, man.

I look at the date 10-15 times a day.
I have other things to remember that aren't on a watch face.

(I write all my appointments on Post-It notes, too, before hanging up the phone with my customers, and scotch tape them to my dashboard because I don't trust the adhesive! )
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