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Timber Loftis · 19 July 2008, 04:22 AM

I'm looking at a Panerai Pam 203 ca. 2000. What should I expect to be charged for it?

Timber Loftis · 19 July 2008, 04:52 AM

The reason I was asking is I am new to the watch hobby, but I saw this today:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=011

I'm not familiar with Pams, but I did some googling and found that if indeed the watch is what is is claimed to be, a collector's watch was going to auction for a small price.

I didn't bid, as I don't trust myself to identify a fake, but I'm just curious as to whether this looks like the real deal to you guys or not.

busa180 · 19 July 2008, 06:22 AM

A Pam 203 (angelus) is one of the Holy grail of Pams. Retail is $25500. Used expect to pay a hell of a lot more.

brainbizz · 19 July 2008, 07:25 AM

What ever the seller wants would guess 90K and up. I believe that was what I heard one went for several months ago.

Timber Loftis · 19 July 2008, 07:36 AM

Okay, well if you guys want to click the link you will see that a supposed Pam 203 sold on ebay today for less than $2300. Now, the watch in the pictures looks pretty accurate to the Pam 203, as to whether or not the seller actually has it or intends to deliver it, that remains to be seen.

DeepSeaWatches · 19 July 2008, 07:53 AM

That watch is 100% fake. If you want a real 203 and can actually find a seller to sell you one, you'll pay six figures.

Defiancekofb · 19 July 2008, 08:03 AM

From a PAM site, 2007 Retail price - PAM 203 Luminor 1950 8-Day Angelus, steel case 47mm $23800.

If you look at the strap, on the bucklet it looks as if PANERAI is laser engraved, instead of stamped. Also how come the seller offers UPS next day air for $5.00 only? For a watch that's worth thousands? Totally fake.......... PS - the seller has no feedback what so ever, so buyer beware, another seller/scam artist trying to take advantage of ones hopes and dreams.

Timber Loftis · 19 July 2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Defiancekofb

Totally fake.......... PS - the seller has no feedback what so ever, so buyer beware, another seller/scam artist trying to take advantage of ones hopes and dreams.

Agreed on the seller's rating, biggest warning sign there could be. Biggest reason I didn't bite.

However, one can imagine someone without the knowledge accidentally selling such a fine piece for a pittance. Hey, I watch the antique shows on TV, so it must be true!!

Agreed on the engraving on the wristband too, could even be photoshop.

pwrslider · 19 July 2008, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepSeaWatches

That watch is 100% fake. If you want a real 203 and can actually find a seller to sell you one, you'll pay six figures.

X2!!!!!

Tony-GB · 20 July 2008, 12:13 AM

Pam 203 minimum £50,000 (UK)

TswaneNguni · 20 July 2008, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony-GB

Pam 203 minimum £50,000 (UK)

The two grails ... 21 and 203.(Pic credit to Ted)

Mr_T · 20 July 2008, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Timber Loftis

Okay, well if you guys want to click the link you will see that a supposed Pam 203 sold on ebay today for less than $2300. Now, the watch in the pictures looks pretty accurate to the Pam 203, as to whether or not the seller actually has it or intends to deliver it, that remains to be seen.

The box alone for the 203 is worth more than $2300...lol

19 July 2008, 04:22 AM	#1
Timber Loftis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Jon Location: Chicago Watch: IIc,DJII,P244,A1-Z Posts: 2,857	Advice on Pricing I'm looking at a Panerai Pam 203 ca. 2000. What should I expect to be charged for it?

19 July 2008, 04:52 AM	#2
Timber Loftis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Jon Location: Chicago Watch: IIc,DJII,P244,A1-Z Posts: 2,857	Pam 203 The reason I was asking is I am new to the watch hobby, but I saw this today: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=011 I'm not familiar with Pams, but I did some googling and found that if indeed the watch is what is is claimed to be, a collector's watch was going to auction for a small price. I didn't bid, as I don't trust myself to identify a fake, but I'm just curious as to whether this looks like the real deal to you guys or not.

19 July 2008, 07:53 AM	#6
DeepSeaWatches "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: United States Posts: 266	That watch is 100% fake. If you want a real 203 and can actually find a seller to sell you one, you'll pay six figures. __________________ Rolex: 16600 \| 116400 V Panerai: Fiddy \| 232 Sinn : U1

20 July 2008, 12:13 AM	#10
Tony-GB "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: Oxfordshire, UK Watch: 116680 & 116622 Posts: 3,953	Pam 203 minimum £50,000 (UK) __________________ "...why oh why, didn't I take the blue pill...?" http://www.helenanddouglas.org.uk/ www.cheetah.org

19 July 2008, 06:22 AM	#3
busa180 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Jerry Location: NY Watch: Granda's Posts: 312	A Pam 203 (angelus) is one of the Holy grail of Pams. Retail is $25500. Used expect to pay a hell of a lot more.

19 July 2008, 07:25 AM	#4
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	What ever the seller wants would guess 90K and up. I believe that was what I heard one went for several months ago.

19 July 2008, 07:36 AM	#5
Timber Loftis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Jon Location: Chicago Watch: IIc,DJII,P244,A1-Z Posts: 2,857	Okay, well if you guys want to click the link you will see that a supposed Pam 203 sold on ebay today for less than $2300. Now, the watch in the pictures looks pretty accurate to the Pam 203, as to whether or not the seller actually has it or intends to deliver it, that remains to be seen.

19 July 2008, 08:03 AM	#7
Defiancekofb "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,999	From a PAM site, 2007 Retail price - PAM 203 Luminor 1950 8-Day Angelus, steel case 47mm $23800. If you look at the strap, on the bucklet it looks as if PANERAI is laser engraved, instead of stamped. Also how come the seller offers UPS next day air for $5.00 only? For a watch that's worth thousands? Totally fake.......... PS - the seller has no feedback what so ever, so buyer beware, another seller/scam artist trying to take advantage of ones hopes and dreams.

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