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Old 5 August 2016, 11:32 AM   #1
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People looking down on Tudor and "starter rolex models"

I just want to say that I have seen a couple of comments with people looking down on Tudor and entry level rolex like "I would not wear a Tudor because it would be like I couldnt afford a Rolex". Along this same vein there have been comments about the explorer 1 and no date sub being something you only buy if you cannot afford a sub or date version.

I appreciate the Tudor brand and all Rolex models for different reasons ! I remember last year I had a sub, Daytona, and explorer 1 in my collection and many people told me to get rid of the explorer because it adds nothing, for example. I argued that it added a simple clean watch but many did not think it deserved a place?

Well I guess the purpose of this post is that we should try to stay positive and embrace the diversity in peoples collections and the choices they make. Now here is a picture of my new favorite watch :).

Stay positive :)

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Old 5 August 2016, 11:38 AM   #2
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Agreed, although I guess I haven't really seen much in that regard in these forums. I think people stay pretty civil around here. FWIW, even though I don't own a Tudor, I currently like more watches in the Tudor lineup than in the Rolex lineup.
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Old 5 August 2016, 11:42 AM   #3
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I haven't seen any of that. The closest was in the "entry level Rolex" thread, but even then there wasn't much like that. I actually see a ton of support here and guys wearing Platonas congratulating someone on their first OP. Overall I think the Rolex forum is the nicest watch forum around (people wise)
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Old 5 August 2016, 11:43 AM   #4
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I have noticed that, in my honest opinion, if you are buying watches because how much they cost or for their 'status', you aren't a watch enthusiast. If you look down on any watch and judge someone for wearing it (unless it's a fake, bad homage, etc) you're are not welcome in the watch community. Every watch was built for a reason and carry's significant history (explorer 1 after the summit of sir edmund hillary, Tudor's past.., etc). BTW, i love the pelagos! I have a black bay black and im in love. Could I afford a Rolex sub instead? yes.. did i want this one more? yes :)
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Old 5 August 2016, 11:46 AM   #5
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Tudor is really good brand and Tudor watches are very nice. Especially if you need a "daily beater" or are involved in physical activities (e.g. I would not go for some trips to countryside where physical activities involved with PM or TT Rolex watch).

Yes, Explorer I can be considered as "entry level" Rolex, some people like it so not. Everything depends on subjective preferences. For example, I do not like Explorer I but Explorer II (polar) is exceptionally nice watch.

Milgauss is a very unique Rolex and I guess you like it or hate it. I like it very much, but I like Daytona more :) So that's why my 2nd Rolex will be Daytona-C or TT Daytona.
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Old 5 August 2016, 11:55 AM   #6
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Explorer 1, especially the newer update (and the vintage variants) is a darn good watch!
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Old 5 August 2016, 11:58 AM   #7
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Let people say what they want. Being bothered by comments like that only prove them right. Wear in good health.
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Old 5 August 2016, 11:59 AM   #8
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Maybe I don't read the threads completely enough but I don't recall anyone in here demeaning someone for buying a Tudor. That would seem very out of place for this forum... It amazes me in a good way how complimentary people are in here. How many days do 3 or 4 people post an incoming Sub? Every post is full of congrats and never a sarcastic comment about "how original" or some such thing. So cheers to us! finding that anywhere in life is rare, especially on an Internet forum.
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Old 5 August 2016, 12:02 PM   #9
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I haven't seen any of that here. Tudor is a great brand. My only issue is the non in house movement that many have but that's not exclusive to Tudor. Wear what you enjoy. Who cares what others think?
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Old 5 August 2016, 12:10 PM   #10
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Think about cars - Mercs. Usually you get into Mercs through C or E class. Smaller, Cheaper and less complicated models. Nobody buys a S as the first car. So entry level Rolexes follow the same logic.
Tudors are another brand from my point of view. They have their own merits and downside also. My 2 cents worth.
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Old 5 August 2016, 12:12 PM   #11
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Old 5 August 2016, 12:21 PM   #12
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Think about cars - Mercs. Usually you get into Mercs through C or E class. Smaller, Cheaper and less complicated models. Nobody buys a S as the first car. So entry level Rolexes follow the same logic.
Tudors are another brand from my point of view. They have their own merits and downside also. My 2 cents worth.
I don't think of cars in those terms, either. An S class is too big for me, whether I can afford it or not, so I'd still choose a smaller Mercedes. I used to drive an ML350, and it wasn't as if I chose it over the GL350 because of price. I wanted the smaller footprint, and I almost wished I'd gone with the even smaller GLK.

Some people buy up the model line of cars/watches because of status, and others buy what suits their needs. I'd personally take a Sub over a DayDate, regardless of cost.
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Old 5 August 2016, 12:30 PM   #13
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Just to be clear, the vast majority of posts here are supportive and positive, this is an excellent forum and a great community. I just meant this to be a little reminder that we should try to stay positive even tho sometimes we forget :)
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Old 5 August 2016, 12:37 PM   #15
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I think of Tudor has their own brand with their own identity. Though Rolex is their parent brand, in the modern context I see little resemblance. Tudor has stayed truer to the practical tool watch genre, and Rolex has gone the way of luxury. I may be over simplifying it a bit.
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Old 5 August 2016, 12:40 PM   #16
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Just to be clear, the vast majority of posts here are supportive and positive, this is an excellent forum and a great community. I just meant this to be a little reminder that we should try to stay positive even tho sometimes we forget :)
I read a lot of the posts here, and I haven't seen anything like what you are describing. Can you link to them?
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Old 5 August 2016, 12:43 PM   #17
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I read a lot of the posts here, and I haven't seen anything like what you are describing. Can you link to them?
Sorry I don't want to point any fingers :). Hope you understand.

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Old 5 August 2016, 12:47 PM   #18
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Turning their noses up at Tudor is already more dignity they can afford to the new Air King. Some members here take it as a personal insult that there are people who might actually like that model.
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Old 5 August 2016, 12:49 PM   #19
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Don't see it as a "starter" Rolex at all. I have no particular evidence to support this but it wouldn't surprise me if more people get to Tudor through Rolex than the other way around.
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Old 5 August 2016, 12:51 PM   #20
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I've seen some snob acted like that.....

By the same token....., Rolex is not the most expensive watch brand in the market and the reason people buying Rolex is because they don't have money to buy PP/AP, etc......blah blah blah.....

Anyway, Tudor is a good brand with engineering backing from Rolex. Great bang per buck. I like BB and Pelagos. Planning to buy 25600TN for my birthday next month!
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Turning their noses up at Tudor is already more dignity they can afford to the new Air King. Some members here take it as a personal insult that there are people who might actually like that model.
I myself am guilty of saying I think the new Milgauss is ugly! I guess there is a fine line between expressing your opinion and being negative towards someone's new acquisition. A proper thread for everything it would seem is the best answer. While I might say I find it ugly in a thread discussing the new Milgauss I should hold my tongue in an incoming thread !
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Old 5 August 2016, 12:51 PM   #22
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Don't see it as a "starter" Rolex at all. I have no particular evidence to support this but it wouldn't surprise me at all if more people get to Tudor through Rolex than the other way around.
I completely agree.
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Old 5 August 2016, 12:59 PM   #23
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Sorry I don't want to point any fingers :). Hope you understand.

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From the responses I've seen so far, it seems like a non-issue. Why make it an issue?

If you want to see an "issue", check what's going on in WatchOut!
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Old 5 August 2016, 12:59 PM   #24
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Let people think what they want, although Tudor doesn't appeal to me personally (just not to my liking) they are exceptional timepieces. The idea someone would choose a Tudor because they don't have enough money to purchase a Rolex is Bullderdash. I know several people here on the forum that wear Tudors, and their finances are such they could afford any and several Rolexes.
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Old 5 August 2016, 01:01 PM   #25
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On here: I haven't seen a single negative comment regarding Tudor/Explorer models.

Out in the world: To 99% of the people we encounter, a watch is a watch. The only time people tend to perk their ears is if they see "Rolex" on the face. That's the only time people may overlook a Tudor.

I personally love the Pelagos and BB. The Explorer isn't my style but neither is a DD.

I think the Sub no date thing is silly. I bought my ND 2 liner because I wanted the absolute most sterile pure Sub I could find.
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From the responses I've seen so far, it seems like a non-issue. Why make it an issue?

If you want to see an "issue", check what's going on in WatchOut!
The purpose of this post was to try to remind us (including myself) to be positive (not that this great community is in need of such a reminder). I do not see any reason to point fingers as I feel it would be contradictory to the spirit of this thread . I'll have to look at this "watch out" lol.
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Tudor makes some nice models. I have a North Face and love it.
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Turning their noses up at Tudor is already more dignity they can afford to the new Air King. Some members here take it as a personal insult that there are people who might actually like that model.
Stick around a while. Someone "cool" will buy the new AK, which I hate btw, and then everyone will start liking it. That half blue DSSD was much maligned when it came out and now everyone loves it.
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I've seen a LOT of Tudor (and ALL Rolexes) love here on TRF!
I think it's ok when doing polls and asking opinions that people can AND SHOULD state their opinions.
But this is only someone else's preferences.
Ultimately get, love and enjoy watches that move you and don't worry what others think.
But if you do polls and ask for people's advice and opinions, be prepared for some straight talk and honest answers (at least to the poster).
This is a forum and people should be allowed to express their preferences and opinions, which of course is not the same as blatant bashing and trolling which definitely should not be permitted.
I've noticed the moderators have a very discerning eye for the latter and banning the offenders.
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I love my Black Bay black. It's probably my most valued watch. Although I don't disagree with what josh is saying, I also have not seen almost anything but support for Tudor on the forum. There's been a huge following and admiration for Tudor here at least within the past couple years I've been really tuned in.
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