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R332 · 1 February 2016, 01:35 PM

I love the 42mm Explorer II but I really don't like the cyclops date crystal. Is there a non-cyclops crystal from a different Rolex that can be installed by a service center?

ref1655 · 1 February 2016, 04:12 PM

curious...why don't you like the cyclops lens? it's traditional & standard on most contemporary Rolexes with calendars.

silverbullet818 · 1 February 2016, 04:46 PM

I've read somewhere here that the crystals can be removed via heat??

AF_Rob · 1 February 2016, 06:57 PM

A few members here have done it. Hopefully they chime in. Apparently they are applied with glue and like silverbullet said, heat or some well aimed pressure can remove it.

R332 · 14 May 2016, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AF_Rob

A few members here have done it. Hopefully they chime in. Apparently they are applied with glue and like silverbullet said, heat or some well aimed pressure can remove it.

Please chime in with more details. The main thing holding me back from becoming a 216570 owner is the cyclops!

sickened1 · 14 May 2016, 01:57 PM

Not mine btw and proceed at your own risk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNnxKrf820g

R332 · 12 June 2016, 03:02 AM

Bump for more info.

Since we know the crystal can be removed I guess the question should be - Is there another genuine Rolex non-cyclops crystal that will fit the 216570 and who could I turn to for the swap?

Justinmg · 12 June 2016, 03:10 AM

I looked into it when I was concidering the exp 2, I contacted a few Jewlers and they said they would do it. There r some diy videos on YouTube but I'd let a jewler do it. I'm with you though I'm not a fan of the cyclops and I have seen pics of it removed and it looks awesome! I have a sd and I love having the date but the clean look of not having a cyclops. Good luck and if you do it post some pics.

Boaters · 12 June 2016, 03:29 AM

I would not do it myself

cangelosijeff · 12 June 2016, 04:18 AM

If I'm not mistaken the 42mm expy has AR coating under the cyclops, which will remain after cyclops is gone.

El Cascarrabias · 12 June 2016, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ref1655

curious...why don't you like the cyclops lens? it's traditional & standard on most contemporary Rolexes with calendars.

Here's a video with some great shots of the Exp II without the cyclops. Looks very nice!

Originally, I thought the Exp II was the one I wanted when i started looking for my first Rolex. After trying it on I found the cyclops not to my liking at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justinmg

. . . I have a sd and I love having the date but the clean look of not having a cyclops . . .

Yep!

OP, I hope someone can answer your question for you regarding a crystal sans cyclops. I think you'd really like it.

77T · 12 June 2016, 12:54 PM

Well the first challenge is this: Name a 42mm Rolex that doesn't have a cyclops...

What? No names? Right...

Cleave away...

fskywalker · 12 June 2016, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cangelosijeff

If I'm not mistaken the 42mm expy has AR coating under the cyclops, which will remain after cyclops is gone.

If the AR is on the outer side of the sapphire can also be removed with a cape cod

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R332 · 4 August 2016, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cangelosijeff

If I'm not mistaken the 42mm expy has AR coating under the cyclops, which will remain after cyclops is gone.

Can anyone confirm or deny? Have a cyclops-shape patch without the AR coating would look terrible and I don't want to find out the hard ($$$) way!

Sandblaster · 4 August 2016, 03:19 PM

On my 40mm explorer 2 i once swung my arm near the corner of a brick column and nicked the cyclops ever so slightly.

It's plastic so it's soft and easy to scratch.

I had it replaced. A few weeks later when getting dressed for work it just fell off.

I took it back to my watch guy and he repaired it - but then i noticed the mag was off.

I had read at the time there was a mag issue with some of the BLNR's. It didn't really bother me that much and then one day i had posted a beautiful picture on instagram and someone came out of the woodwork to challenge the authentication - pointing the mag. Needless to say I had it fixed and the mag is what it's supposed to be.

No AR on this model that I noticed.

My personally? I prefer the cyclops.

douglasf13 · 4 August 2016, 03:23 PM

Aside from the potential AR coating issue, the problem with not having a cyclops is that the date wheel is inset too far, since it was designed with the cyclops in mind, so it throws the proportions off (even on the SD4K.) The original Sea Dweller had a smaller dial, which brought the date wheel closer to the chapter ring, making the dial more balanced looking.

So, outside of the pre-ceramic Sea Dweller, I'd either go cyclops or no date at all when choosing a Rolex.

padi56 · 4 August 2016, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverbullet818

I've read somewhere here that the crystals can be removed via heat??

Yes they can be removed but trouble now most have the AR coating under the crystal position where the cyclops is glued on.

R332 · 10 August 2016, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Yes they can be removed but trouble now most have the AR coating under the crystal position where the cyclops is glued on.

Has this been confirmed 100% ?

sheldonsmith · 10 August 2016, 02:09 PM

Check here: https://www.minus4plus6.com/116710.php#cyclops

Also, here is another tutorial on cyclops removal..

-Sheldon

Marcus09 · 10 August 2016, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R332

I love the 42mm Explorer II but I really don't like the cyclops date crystal. Is there a non-cyclops crystal from a different Rolex that can be installed by a service center?

Wouldn't advise it since it will lose of its value

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1 February 2016, 01:35 PM	#1
R332 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: North Posts: 62	Explorer II (216570) Can crystal be changed to non-cyclops? I love the 42mm Explorer II but I really don't like the cyclops date crystal. Is there a non-cyclops crystal from a different Rolex that can be installed by a service center?

12 June 2016, 12:54 PM	#12
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,017	Well the first challenge is this: Name a 42mm Rolex that doesn't have a cyclops... What? No names? Right... Cleave away... __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

10 August 2016, 02:09 PM	#19
sheldonsmith 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Member 202♛ Posts: 1,815	Check here: https://www.minus4plus6.com/116710.php#cyclops Also, here is another tutorial on cyclops removal.. -Sheldon __________________

1 February 2016, 04:12 PM	#2
ref1655 Banned Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: SF Bay Area Watch: 1655/MkI Posts: 1,100	curious...why don't you like the cyclops lens? it's traditional & standard on most contemporary Rolexes with calendars.

1 February 2016, 04:46 PM	#3
silverbullet818 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 839	I've read somewhere here that the crystals can be removed via heat??

1 February 2016, 06:57 PM	#4
AF_Rob "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Rob Location: Virginia Watch: Sub/Polar/OP/BB Posts: 4,673	A few members here have done it. Hopefully they chime in. Apparently they are applied with glue and like silverbullet said, heat or some well aimed pressure can remove it.

14 May 2016, 01:57 PM	#6
sickened1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Ed Location: SoCal Watch: ugiveiswatchuget Posts: 9,054	Not mine btw and proceed at your own risk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNnxKrf820g

12 June 2016, 03:02 AM	#7
R332 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: North Posts: 62	Bump for more info. Since we know the crystal can be removed I guess the question should be - Is there another genuine Rolex non-cyclops crystal that will fit the 216570 and who could I turn to for the swap?

12 June 2016, 03:10 AM	#8
Justinmg "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Justin Location: FL Watch: PO/EXPL Posts: 3,371	I looked into it when I was concidering the exp 2, I contacted a few Jewlers and they said they would do it. There r some diy videos on YouTube but I'd let a jewler do it. I'm with you though I'm not a fan of the cyclops and I have seen pics of it removed and it looks awesome! I have a sd and I love having the date but the clean look of not having a cyclops. Good luck and if you do it post some pics.

12 June 2016, 03:29 AM	#9
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,653	I would not do it myself

12 June 2016, 04:18 AM	#10
cangelosijeff "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Jeff Location: USA Watch: LV Posts: 395	If I'm not mistaken the 42mm expy has AR coating under the cyclops, which will remain after cyclops is gone.

4 August 2016, 03:19 PM	#15
Sandblaster Banned Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: US Watch: 16570, 216570 Posts: 161	On my 40mm explorer 2 i once swung my arm near the corner of a brick column and nicked the cyclops ever so slightly. It's plastic so it's soft and easy to scratch. I had it replaced. A few weeks later when getting dressed for work it just fell off. I took it back to my watch guy and he repaired it - but then i noticed the mag was off. I had read at the time there was a mag issue with some of the BLNR's. It didn't really bother me that much and then one day i had posted a beautiful picture on instagram and someone came out of the woodwork to challenge the authentication - pointing the mag. Needless to say I had it fixed and the mag is what it's supposed to be. No AR on this model that I noticed. My personally? I prefer the cyclops.

4 August 2016, 03:23 PM	#16
douglasf13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Posts: 5,622	Aside from the potential AR coating issue, the problem with not having a cyclops is that the date wheel is inset too far, since it was designed with the cyclops in mind, so it throws the proportions off (even on the SD4K.) The original Sea Dweller had a smaller dial, which brought the date wheel closer to the chapter ring, making the dial more balanced looking. So, outside of the pre-ceramic Sea Dweller, I'd either go cyclops or no date at all when choosing a Rolex.

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