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Old 10 August 2016, 01:08 AM   #1
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5513 with 1.9mill seri

Hey, how much does it hurt in value if a watch with 1.9mill seri has a pre comex dial?
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Old 10 August 2016, 03:28 AM   #2
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1.9 mil serial number should be meters first dial.
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Old 10 August 2016, 03:58 AM   #3
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Yes I know that it should be a meter first, thats why I am asking how much does it hurt the value if it has a pre comex dial?
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Old 10 August 2016, 04:14 AM   #4
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Yes, it drastically changes it as the dial is a very good portion of the watches value. And to be honest Im not liking that watch much at all.
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Old 10 August 2016, 08:55 AM   #5
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Any competent watchmaker who is familiar with vintage Rolex, can replace that smudge dial with a MF dial.

Let me stress Competent.

There are risks involved when you open a vintage watch though.. like Tritium flaking off the dial or hands, dial being damaged, improper sealing, improper installation of the movement back to the case etc.

So taking into the account the risks, make an offer you feel is fair, granted everything else is genuine on that 1.9mil.
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Old 10 August 2016, 09:13 AM   #6
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Yes, it drastically changes it as the dial is a very good portion of the watches value. And to be honest Im not liking that watch much at all.
Wow. Rough crowd. I have no issues with that watch, as long as there's an understanding of what it is. At some point, probably during a service, the dial and hands were replaced. Not uncommon. It's got nice patina and a little fade on the insert. Sure, it would be more valuable with
its original dial, but still a very nice vintage piece. I'd leave it alone and enjoy it.
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Old 10 August 2016, 09:36 AM   #7
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Wow. Rough crowd. I have no issues with that watch, as long as there's an understanding of what it is. At some point, probably during a service, the dial and hands were replaced. Not uncommon. It's got nice patina and a little fade on the insert. Sure, it would be more valuable with
its original dial, but still a very nice vintage piece. I'd leave it alone and enjoy it.
I was mostly referring to value. That watch IMO, is valued $1000 or more less than if it had the correct dial. Not a fan of how the case tube sits protruding from the case and making the guards look short and thin. Just a personal preference. There are many of us who have service parts we wished were still the original. :)
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Old 10 August 2016, 10:40 AM   #8
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The asking price is $7400, My main wories is the case,does it look overpolished or is it good. I can post some pictures of the lugs tomorrow.
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Old 10 August 2016, 01:27 PM   #9
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Old 11 August 2016, 08:15 AM   #10
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Old 11 August 2016, 08:24 AM   #11
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Need more and better photos of the lugs for questions about the case, but regardless, the price seems high for that watch, IHMO. I'd want the original dial for that kind of money. There are better Subs out there in the $7K-$8K range.
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I see, there are many watches at hqmilton but the thing is, its not worth buying from there shipping + taxes, we have tooo pay 30% of the watch taxes
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I see, there are many watches at hqmilton but the thing is, its not worth buying from there shipping + taxes, we have tooo pay 30% of the watch taxes
Oh, I see. I'd contact Jacek about shipping/taxes to Europe. I'm sure he sends all over the world and knows what's what. Good luck.
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Oh, I see. I'd contact Jacek about shipping/taxes to Europe. I'm sure he sends all over the world and knows what's what. Good luck.
I have lets say I buy a watch from there I pay a few $100 for shipping and insurance. Then I receive the watch a few days go and I have to pay $2400 if the watch costs $8000 :(
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