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Old 11 June 2016, 01:58 AM   #31
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Not today, not today. Lovely watch, but not today.
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Old 11 June 2016, 07:39 PM   #32
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Wait for this one where the subdials have been cleaned up and are much more legible.
Roger that is absolutely stunning
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Old 11 June 2016, 10:59 PM   #33
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Wait for this one where the subdials have been cleaned up and are much more legible.
Amazing but so is the price
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Old 12 June 2016, 12:23 AM   #34
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Love the watch but just can't pull the trigger

At 91k if you're not salivating then it's just not for you. Regardless of everything. Follow your gut on this one and walk away.

Paying so much $ for complications you can't see also doesn't make too much sense.

With my eye sight fading after 40... I find myself leaning towards 3 handed watches with a date. Complications are pretty... I just can't see them so why buy them?.

First world problems lol
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Old 12 June 2016, 12:45 AM   #35
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That is a hard watch to read. Also, if not worn daily or on a watch winder, you will have to reset a lot of functions. I vote for a simpler Lange.
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Old 12 June 2016, 01:05 AM   #36
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I think one sucks into the mystic of Lange. As eye sight fades I find the large date window much easier to read than on a dial. So that's a huge bonus. The day advance button and the zero set are also really nice to haves. I think the watch is gorgeous but I will just get annoyed by having to use a loupe to see what month we are in! The same goes for this perpetual that is a 2014 and GBP 33 000
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Old 12 June 2016, 02:07 AM   #37
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Old 12 June 2016, 06:02 AM   #38
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I think one sucks into the mystic of Lange. As eye sight fades I find the large date window much easier to read than on a dial. So that's a huge bonus. The day advance button and the zero set are also really nice to haves. I think the watch is gorgeous but I will just get annoyed by having to use a loupe to see what month we are in! The same goes for this perpetual that is a 2014 and GBP 33 000
Which is why I've always maintained that the best PC does eminate from Glashutte, except it's down the road from AL&S.

http://www.chrono24.co.uk/glashuette...-id4077726.htm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Glashutte-Or...-/131824601426

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Old 13 June 2016, 08:39 AM   #39
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Rather have a Dato.

I can't read the subdials either.
Yes same here, at this price point the dial really should be better designed and more user friendly.
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Old 13 June 2016, 08:40 AM   #40
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Which is why I've always maintained that the best PC does eminate from Glashutte, except it's down the road from AL&S.

http://www.chrono24.co.uk/glashuette...-id4077726.htm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Glashutte-Or...-/131824601426

I think that's going too far the other way, looks too plain for a PC. Show me the money
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Old 13 June 2016, 06:42 PM   #41
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Which is why I've always maintained that the best PC does eminate from Glashutte, except it's down the road from AL&S.

http://www.chrono24.co.uk/glashuette...-id4077726.htm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Glashutte-Or...-/131824601426

Thats a beut...a brand that is under estimated...
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Thats a beut...a brand that is under estimated...
Not for me. They just plopped the complications all around the dial. There is no symmetry or reason to the layout (like most asymmetrical GOs). Lange organizes their dials with much more thought and precision - study the radius and internal geometries of their dials. That is why it falls much easier on the eye than the GOs.
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Old 14 June 2016, 10:56 AM   #43
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I love the Dato Perp, flaws and all...
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Old 14 June 2016, 11:09 AM   #44
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I love the Dato Perp, flaws and all...
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Old 14 June 2016, 01:52 PM   #45
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Not for me. They just plopped the complications all around the dial. There is no symmetry or reason to the layout (like most asymmetrical GOs). Lange organizes their dials with much more thought and precision - study the radius and internal geometries of their dials. That is why it falls much easier on the eye than the GOs.
I hear a lot about the ALS triangles, both isosceles and whatever else. Some may find it too symmetrical. On the 1815 I find the sub dials to be too far apart, bit like bug eyes. Journe has no symmetry and I am fond of some of his watches. i am probably in the minority when I think the PP PC all look like the dials have fallen loose and collapsed at the bottom of the case. So guess it's personal aesthetics
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Not for me. They just plopped the complications all around the dial. There is no symmetry or reason to the layout (like most asymmetrical GOs). Lange organizes their dials with much more thought and precision - study the radius and internal geometries of their dials. That is why it falls much easier on the eye than the GOs.


I am a huge GO fan and have one of their time pieces and will have more down the road for certain. But this PC design I just can't digest either. Aside from the location of the Windows which imho wasn't well thought out... I personally don't care for square Windows in a round watch. A superb brand with great quality at affordable prices.. But I feel they didn't get it right with this model.
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Old 14 June 2016, 08:48 PM   #47
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IMO the dial is a busy mess. I would pass and put the funds towards a MUST HAVE piece. If after 4 times viewing it she isnt a winner I think you know it is probably best to move onto another beauty
Good advice, you shouldn't have to talk yourself into it, especially in this category
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Old 14 June 2016, 10:17 PM   #48
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Not for me. They just plopped the complications all around the dial. There is no symmetry or reason to the layout (like most asymmetrical GOs). Lange organizes their dials with much more thought and precision - study the radius and internal geometries of their dials. That is why it falls much easier on the eye than the GOs.
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I am a huge GO fan and have one of their time pieces and will have more down the road for certain. But this PC design I just can't digest either. Aside from the location of the Windows which imho wasn't well thought out... I personally don't care for square Windows in a round watch. A superb brand with great quality at affordable prices.. But I feel they didn't get it right with this model.
The pair of you are just being too bloody fussy!
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The pair of you are just being too bloody fussy!
And we didn't even get to their movements! Truthfully, I appreciate GO's simple watches much more.
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Old 15 June 2016, 01:31 AM   #50
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I hear a lot about the ALS triangles, both isosceles and whatever else. Some may find it too symmetrical. On the 1815 I find the sub dials to be too far apart, bit like bug eyes. Journe has no symmetry and I am fond of some of his watches. i am probably in the minority when I think the PP PC all look like the dials have fallen loose and collapsed at the bottom of the case. So guess it's personal aesthetics
I agree with you on the 1815 up/down sub dials, though the older model chronograph and the new boutique edition chrono are much better (and the datograph and Lange 1 are just immaculately proportioned). The modern Patek chronos are all bottom heavy, no getting around that. Journe is a bit different in his approach. He plays with the asymmetry in a way that delicately breaks it without going too far into abstraction. It's part of his design philosophy and if you look at where he positions most of his complications it's still somewhat harmonious, within an unseen but present line, but with a bit of irreverence, something just a little surprising. It usually works for me though on some pieces he ventures too far our there and the surprise of the design feels too off. But that's just his 'thing'.
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I agree with you on the 1815 up/down sub dials, though the older model chronograph and the new boutique edition chrono are much better (and the datograph and Lange 1 are just immaculately proportioned). The modern Patek chronos are all bottom heavy, no getting around that. Journe is a bit different in his approach. He plays with the asymmetry in a way that delicately breaks it without going too far into abstraction. It's part of his design philosophy and if you look at where he positions most of his complications it's still somewhat harmonious, within an unseen but present line, but with a bit of irreverence, something just a little surprising. It usually works for me though on some pieces he ventures too far our there and the surprise of the design feels too off. But that's just his 'thing'.
Agree with you on Boutique. Drop dead gorgeous
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Old 12 August 2016, 04:42 PM   #52
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Which is why I've always maintained that the best PC does eminate from Glashutte, except it's down the road from AL&S.

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Old 13 August 2016, 12:18 AM   #53
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Wait for this one where the subdials have been cleaned up and are much more legible.
I'd say this one is the way to go
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Old 26 August 2016, 11:11 AM   #54
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IMO the dial is a busy mess. I would pass and put the funds towards a MUST HAVE piece. If after 4 times viewing it she isnt a winner I think you know it is probably best to move onto another beauty
Well said.
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Old 26 August 2016, 11:58 AM   #55
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Well said.
I agree, with my last watch I tried it on over 40 times over 4 months until I finally bought it. For me you almost have to fall in love with a watch to buy it unless money is no object and you have the funds to build a large collection
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Old 26 August 2016, 02:20 PM   #56
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and it's still not sold....however AD did whatsapp me to advise that the price had now increased by 6%!!! Ha ha how's that for logic....can't sell at old, discounted price so maybe it will if we increase the price!! Dear oh dear
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and it's still not sold....however AD did whatsapp me to advise that the price had now increased by 6%!!! Ha ha how's that for logic....can't sell at old, discounted price so maybe it will if we increase the price!! Dear oh dear
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