Do you think I should...

[lapince]

Hi guys, I was wondering if I should make this addition to my collection, basically between what I have and what I will have gotten by June my collection will look like this:

AP ceramic diver
PP 5712
PP 5167R
PP 5711
And a made to order watch from an independent in WG, that one should make a serious incoming, even if I already paid 70% upfront for the order I won't say what it is, but it's going to be the pinnacle of my collection.

So basically 5 watches, have other lower end watches but let's not count them in.
I won't have a single watch which costs less than 20K, which means that I won't take any to go to the beach or for a swim, I know the diver can swim but having had the case crack once I would be afraid to have it happen again, so I am considering a Daytona C, probably white dial, it makes me think a little of the Paul Newman one.

Also my 5 watch collection is very well thought, and watches I really love and which will do great in a rotation, I have thought about it for a very long time, and have bothered you enough with many threads about these watches that I am getting, which has helped me to really choose the ones I wanted and that will at 99% be keepers for me.

Do you think that I will probably not wear it enough with the ones I have and will flip it? I went through the buying and selling phase and would prefer not going through that again, even if I don't loose money, no need to fuel the addiction...

Sorry to make such a huge thread about basically "should I get a Daytona or not?" but I like things to be clear.

And if it was possible I would like the thread not to be moved in the Rolex section, it's more about the watches I have and am getting than the Daytona, plus the Rolex posters don't really know me whereas many of you guys here do...

Anyways thanks in advance for your thoughts and ideas about this.

[texex91]

Based upon some of your previous posts regarding Rolex, I'm surprised. But if this is your 'future collection' (you mention June--of 2017 I assume), may I suggest you get the watches first. Going by history things can take a little longer than expected.

Not sure what you own now, if you want to toss in a Daytona, go for it. If you're looking for a beach beater, grab a Sub or GMT--even better water watches.

I'm confused as to the quandary here?

Either way good luck.

[lapince]

Very simple Paul, I have the AP, 5712, the 5167R is paid in full and waiting for me in CH, going there in 3-4 weeks, the independent is paid at 70%, and delivery date is May 2017, the only one which isn't either paid in full or in part is the 5711 and Daytona if I take one. Both 5711 and Daytona have estimated arrival first half of 2017..
To be honest it's the only Rolex In SS I find comfortable, can't stand the subs, GMT's and all, had them and find them horrible to wear since I got my first 5712...

I didn't want to add a watch but I realize I don't have a watch I would wear when 1 time a year we go spend 3-4 weeks in Asia, or for sports but vacation is the biggest reason, I know WR is only 100m, but I think it is more than sufficient, before my BLNR was my vacation watch, has the same WR and it was more than fine

[texex91]

Originally Posted by lapince

To be honest it's the only Rolex In SS I find comfortable, can't stand the subs, GMT's and all, had them and find them horrible to wear since I got my first 5712...

Well there's your answer, grab the Daytona and enjoy it.

Good news--doesn't sound like it's incoming until 2017, so plenty of time to change your mind

[cervantes]

What's this mysterious independent?

[jschmidtdmd]

I think this is a reasonable thread. For me, I a few pieces I wear without regard. ie a sea dweller, gmt, tudor.

If you feel like the daytona c is going to be that piece for you, go for it. You may be better off with a sea dweller or sub though, but that's for you to decide.

[daytonaTBR]

I'm curious to know which independent you're talking about as well!

That said I think the DaytonaC would be the perfect SS Rolex to use as a "beater"/vacation watch. But I would wait until you get your other watches first because tastes change over time and by then the market premiums won't be as high. However, if you can get one at retail now then go for it

ps is the 5711 steel or rg?

[lapince]

Thanks guys, yes it is going to be here in 2017, maybe there are tougher "vacation watches", but for me it's fine, and comfy as well as very cool looking, can't stand subs and other Rolexes like them, they look nice but it's a pain to wear.

Well it's not Dufour but you're in for a treat I think, should be one of the best incoming threads ever made here from a very small independent

Anyways thanks for your answers guys, the Daytona c white dial is ordered, it will arrive in 2017 like the 5711 at my AD in CH

[cervantes]

Well it's not Dufour but you're in for a treat I think, should be one of the best incoming threads ever made here from a very small independent

We're going to hold you to that!

[SC11]

Originally Posted by cervantes

Well it's not Dufour but you're in for a treat I think, should be one of the best incoming threads ever made here from a very small independent

We're going to hold you to that!

The gauntlet has been thrown..

With Roger and Paul's PP/RM incomings I'm looking forward to this..

Back to your quandary why not just use the ceramic diver? Your previous issue as you said wasn't the result of a knock it was a freak accident and not something to expect in the future, also from memory one of the main reasons for the ceramic was its ability to withstand scratches and your concern with them, surely that means your ideal beach/pool watch you already have in your collection.

[daytonaTBR]

I'm gonna guess it's a Voutilainen! Anyways, looking forward to your future incomings

[lapince]

Originally Posted by cervantes

Well it's not Dufour but you're in for a treat I think, should be one of the best incoming threads ever made here from a very small independent

We're going to hold you to that!

LOL, you won't be disappointed I can assure you

Originally Posted by SC11

The gauntlet has been thrown..

With Roger and Paul's PP/RM incomings I'm looking forward to this..

Back to your quandary why not just use the ceramic diver? Your previous issue as you said wasn't the result of a knock it was a freak accident and not something to expect in the future, also from memory one of the main reasons for the ceramic was its ability to withstand scratches and your concern with them, surely that means your ideal beach/pool watch you already have in your collection.

Totally different than RM, you can't compare them, when I say one of the best independent incomings I was saying for very small independents, they make 40-50 watches a year, it's gonna be a unique piece and signed as such. I wouldn't have said anything about it before, but since I already wired 70% of the sum one month ago, the watch is coming in for sure.

Yes but the fact that the ceramic cracked for no apparent reason, made me think that if I swim and hit it on a rock or on the side of the pool, it'll cost me a fortune, I find the Daytona much better suited for a vacation watch, a big scratch won't really bother me, and almost no risk of damaging it seriously, the AP doesn't scratch but as I learned can crack...

Originally Posted by Aw15

I'm gonna guess it's a Voutilainen! Anyways, looking forward to your future incomings

Answer in June 2017

[masyv6]

Can't wait to see what the independent will be!

[cda555]

I think getting the Daytona is a safe choice. If you decide you don't like it, you could probably still sell it for at least what you paid. I know you said you would be scared to wear the ceramic AP on vacation, but have you considered getting it insured? I bet your premium would be $500 a year. It would take 25 years to pay more than $12400 (MSRP for the Daytona).

[Peterandwatches]

I think any collection could use a Rolex, especially as a tool watch, so I think it would be a wise choice.

Having said that, your collection has purposefully moved beyond Rolex, and you have comfort issues with Rolex bracelets. If you can't physically wear a Sub, or GMT, a Daytona is not going to wear a lot different. No, I don't think Rolex is the way go. That's a firm no on the Daytona.

You need to look to a high end brand sports model, one that has the prestige, movement, and exclusivity to match your collection - something like a 5167 in steel, but you already have the gold one. The VC Overseas for example. Not saying it has to be VC, but you should look to high end brands and what their sport models have to offer. Breguet, Blanpain, etc.

[texex91]

Anyone else have incomings past June 2017 or in 2018 so I can bring my calendar out only once :-)

[AK797]

Daytona C sounds like the right move. I have the RG and prefer full subdials rather than subdial rings so I might pass on the SS.

[ELITEVIDEOGAMES]

It will be a nice collection once all is arrived.
I know your ceramic AP case broke one time but I highly doubt it will break going for a swim unless you are doing olympic backflips off a diving board or white water rafting.
I say skip the daytona and make the AP your "Beater".

[ELITEVIDEOGAMES]

Originally Posted by texex91

Anyone else have incomings past June 2017 or in 2018 so I can mark my calendar once :-)

Mark me for 2020 please thats my big year

[Marciano490]

Originally Posted by texex91

Anyone else have incomings past June 2017 or in 2018 so I can bring my calendar out only once :-)

I plan to start my own independent watch company in 2017, so I'll be making a lot of outgoing posts next year.

[RUK]

I firmly believe that every collection needs a Ceramic rolex, the ease of use, the quick and reasonable service times makes it a great watch to wear when you may not be able to 100% ensure the watch will be safe and scratch free.

As for the collection - Cant really comment till I know what the incoming will be

[lapince]

Originally Posted by cda555

I think getting the Daytona is a safe choice. If you decide you don't like it, you could probably still sell it for at least what you paid. I know you said you would be scared to wear the ceramic AP on vacation, but have you considered getting it insured? I bet your premium would be $500 a year. It would take 25 years to pay more than $12400 (MSRP for the Daytona).

TO be honest if I start to insure the AP I will do as such for the others, too much cash, they are insured though if there is a fire or burglary in my house as there is usually one or two, but insure them when I wear them no, try to be careful, plus I really love it, I need a watch which I don't really care about much...

Originally Posted by Peterandwatches

I think any collection could use a Rolex, especially as a tool watch, so I think it would be a wise choice.

Having said that, your collection has purposefully moved beyond Rolex, and you have comfort issues with Rolex bracelets. If you can't physically wear a Sub, or GMT, a Daytona is not going to wear a lot different. No, I don't think Rolex is the way go. That's a firm no on the Daytona.

You need to look to a high end brand sports model, one that has the prestige, movement, and exclusivity to match your collection - something like a 5167 in steel, but you already have the gold one. The VC Overseas for example. Not saying it has to be VC, but you should look to high end brands and what their sport models have to offer. Breguet, Blanpain, etc.

Well I wore the Daytona C and I don't really agree, I find it wears very nice, it's very flat, nothing in common with subs, GLT's and even 41mm datejusts IMO, I found it very comfy to be honest, that's the main reason why I have been thinking about it since I returned from my CH trip

Originally Posted by texex91

Anyone else have incomings past June 2017 or in 2018 so I can bring my calendar out only once :-)

Good one Paul

Originally Posted by ELITEVIDEOGAMES

It will be a nice collection once all is arrived.
I know your ceramic AP case broke one time but I highly doubt it will break going for a swim unless you are doing olympic backflips off a diving board or white water rafting.
I say skip the daytona and make the AP your "Beater".

I know but it will never be a kind of vacation watch where I won't have any worries at all, the Daytona is totally that kind of watch, it gets scratched or bezel gets chipped I'm ok with that, ok will repair the bezel, I will be totally worry free with that on vacation

Originally Posted by Marciano490

I plan to start my own independent watch company in 2017, so I'll be making a lot of outgoing posts next year.

you're kidding right?

[lapince]

Originally Posted by RUK

I firmly believe that every collection needs a Ceramic rolex, the ease of use, the quick and reasonable service times makes it a great watch to wear when you may not be able to 100% ensure the watch will be safe and scratch free.

As for the collection - Cant really comment till I know what the incoming will be

Well you know 5 on 6, AP, 5712, 5711, 5167R and Daytona C, I would have been happy with these, but I since I could add one very special one, a unique piece, the kind of watch you want to leave to your son when you die, and which will be the pinnacle of your collection when you live, you'll know soon enough my choice, as it is in the drawing boards it is already great, am expecting a shock, in a good way, when I see it finished

[PJ S]

Spending £8-12K (minus any VAT refund) for a beach/sea/holiday watch seems a bit daft.
Personally, I'd throw a few grand at a Chopard LUC Sport or Pro One, and if it looks a bit sorry for itself after a few years, so what.
A Ulysse Nardin Maxi Marine is another option for under £4K.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by AK797

Daytona C sounds like the right move. I have the RG and prefer full subdials rather than subdial rings so I might pass on the SS.

Thanks my friend, think for me it is perfect, a watch I like enough to wear and which I don't care about to stress if there is a big scratch or scratches, a real "light beater". You have 156515? Or full gold? Had it in ivory dial, but wasn't big on RG back then

[kultschar]

I agree you need a "beater" but is a Ceramic Daytona the best for this over something like a Sub?? Then again a Daytona is cheap amongst those mentioned in your collection! :)

With such a classy collection I would have thought Aquanaut might be your equivalent of a posh "beater" with the composite strap?

PS - Will be interesting to see after time if your feel necessary for both 5712 and 5711 in a collection of 5 watches.

Im starting to look at my first Patek, the thought of my Sub, Daytona and a 5711 (or 5712) with a Aquanaut is starting to appeal to me for a 4 watch collection.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by PJ S

Spending £8-12K (minus any VAT refund) for a beach/sea/holiday watch seems a bit daft.
Personally, I'd throw a few grand at a Chopard LUC Sport or Pro One, and if it looks a bit sorry for itself after a few years, so what.
A Ulysse Nardin Maxi Marine is another option for under £4K.

Well I need a watch I can wear without fear of damaging it and in a way I have become very snobbish as that I need to really like a lot a watch to wear it, even for the beach and holidays, and it's 8800 GHB I am paying exactly :thumbs:

I fear if I buy something I like not very much I won't wear it, while I'm sure I'll wear a Daytona on vacation in Asia for the beach and pool and other activities.

Originally Posted by kultschar

I agree you need a "beater" but is a Ceramic Daytona the best for this over something like a Sub?? Then again a Daytona is cheap amongst those mentioned in your collection! :)

With such a classy collection I would have thought Aquanaut might be your equivalent of a posh "beater" with the composite strap?

PS - Will be interesting to see after time if your feel necessary for both 5712 and 5711 in a collection of 5 watches.

Im starting to look at my first Patek, the thought of my Sub, Daytona and a 5711 (or 5712) with a Aquanaut is starting to appeal to me for a 4 watch collection.

Would make a cool 4 watches. Well my Aquanaut is the 5167R, in rose gold, so a little expensive for the job of beater, whichever kind.

Can't stand a sub on the wrist more than 40 minutes...

About the 5711/12 my Favorite is the 12 but love the other as well, and having both means that the 5712 slot will be decided with the 5711, so less wear on the 12, also in some cases I like a clean blue dial with date in a window, we will see what happens, but they are my 2 favorite SS watches

[texex91]

Originally Posted by lapince

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I think I missed the thread of your 5712 shots, I apologize (may have been while I was taking a break from TRF).

You are always advocating people post more wrist shots. Look forward to more shots of your amazing 5712 and AP--both pieces people always want to see shot of--don't be so modest

Excited to see the Aquanaut make it's way into your rotation in a few weeks--September??? (let's work on those incoming shots--RG will look great in the sun).

[lapince]

Originally Posted by texex91

I think I missed the thread of your 5712 shots, I apologize (may have been while I was taking a break from TRF).

You are always advocating people post more wrist shots. Look forward to more shots of your amazing 5712 and AP--both pieces people always want to see shot of--don't be so modest

Excited to see the Aquanaut make it's way into your rotation in a few weeks--September??? (let's work on those incoming shots--RG will look great in the sun).

Well I take rather crappy pics of my watches, I make awesome photos of people and monuments or animals, but somehow of watches really not, but just for you I took these 4, just now, in the Justin Bieber multi watch style love the guy who could like him apart 14 year old girls...

Anyways so many guys post and have posted such awesome pics of these 2 watches that compared to my crappy ones I am a little ashamed, so usually I post incoming, and very rarely after that..

So crappy pic warning for those faint of heart.

Yeah I'm excited to get some RG soon, have been wanting a RG on rubber for quite a while :thumbs:

[lapince]

Funny how the 5712 doesn't look so small compared to the AP...
To be honest only these 2 make an awesome duo IMO, but I wanted a 5-6 piece collection, once I have them I don't think I will want to add any, these will basically be my favorite watches at a comfortable price zone for me, ok the last one is outside of my comfort zone on that matter, costs more than all the others combined, but really wanted one and could get one, until June I am looking at pics of it everyday, well the one that looks the closest to what it will be like...