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Old 21 September 2016, 02:48 PM   #1
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La Watchworks Vs RSC

Any reason why I would or wouldn't choose one over the other for servicing my 16808 Gold Sub? Thanks for your thoughts!
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Old 21 September 2016, 02:59 PM   #2
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Abc Watchwerks is amazing ....If they will do it for you I say go ahead
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Old 21 September 2016, 02:59 PM   #3
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Are they as amazing as RSC?
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Old 21 September 2016, 03:00 PM   #4
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Old 21 September 2016, 03:03 PM   #5
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Old 21 September 2016, 03:05 PM   #6
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Wow! I'm surprised to hear that. I hope others can chime in and confirm this, hopefully with some details on why.

Their store is right by my house, and I'm on the fence still.
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Old 21 September 2016, 04:02 PM   #7
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There is no substitute for sending it to an RSC. Its Rolex Service center, 2 year warranty, etc etc. I think that should be more than enough reason..:) to me, at least it is.
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Old 21 September 2016, 04:31 PM   #8
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There's a seller on here that works for an AD and he mentioned his store sending watches to ABC because they didn't want to pay RSC prices. He didn't say they always do that specifically but I would see that as a vote of confidence for ABC.

I've read from some of the more knowledgable members on this forum that they would never send their vintage Rolex's to an RSC.
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Old 21 September 2016, 04:40 PM   #9
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LA WW is amazing, have used the guys there tons of times. Everything comes back perfect.
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Old 21 September 2016, 10:49 PM   #10
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you do realize abc watchwerks and la watchworks are two separate entities
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Old 21 September 2016, 11:31 PM   #11
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you do realize abc watchwerks and la watchworks are two separate entities


Indeed.

There were a few threads on this...ABC had some folks leave to form LA - with participation by Eric Ku (vintage dealer). I still don't have it straight which key folks ended up where...

Personally, I'd send a modern watch to RSC.

Vintage would go to one of the LA shops mentioned above. These shops are great for restoring cases to old factory spec...
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Are they as amazing as RSC?
Unquestionably better. I know a guy who trained the RSC Dallas staff and the stories are... not confidence inspiring. It's actually pretty impressive that they do as well as they do, but LAWW is light years beyond.
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Old 22 September 2016, 12:23 AM   #13
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There is no substitute for sending it to an RSC. Its Rolex Service center, 2 year warranty, etc etc. I think that should be more than enough reason..:) to me, at least it is.
Spoken like someone who doesn't know the difference between hand polishing and lapping machines.
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Old 22 September 2016, 12:38 AM   #14
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I've worked with both Alex at ABC and Beau who is at LA, both are stellar, I have even worked with Dalton who is no longer with either but was a team member when they were all ABC, you will be good with either of the entities...
They are both better than RSC in every aspect, turn around time, your wishes as to what you want done and how you want it done, the list goes on... As to warranty it is now two years and is transferable as well.
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With a vintage piece that you'd like to keep as original as possible, go LA
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Old 22 September 2016, 12:56 AM   #16
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after reading this; somewhere in switzerland the head of rsc training worldwide is crying in his schnapps and puking a toblerone.
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Old 22 September 2016, 12:58 AM   #17
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Spoken like someone who doesn't know the difference between hand polishing and lapping machines.
I have to know the difference between those 2.machines to know that I recommend that A Rolex service center service a rolex watch?
If you have a vested interest in recommending another shop, by all means. But don't think you can intimidate and insult and expect me to cower? Lol

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Old 22 September 2016, 01:06 AM   #18
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The San Francisco independent, but licensed through Rolex RSC works on older Rolex & Tudor watches..........and I have been happy with their work.
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Old 22 September 2016, 01:26 AM   #19
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For some reason I thought you ment Abc Watchwerks instead of La which is in Pasedena ca. They are both great personally ive used Abc.
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I have to know the difference between those 2.machines to know that I recommend that A Rolex service center service a rolex watch?
If you have a vested interest in recommending another shop, by all means. But don't think you can intimidate and insult and expect me to cower? Lol

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Despite the bit of aggression, the point was that your blanket statement about RSC being the only acceptable place to service a watch was not accurate.

It's not about having a vested interest, it's more about the possibility that you might not be knowledgeable enough to make those kinds of statements.

I've read plenty of horror stories about RSC services going wrong. Especially for vintage. You don't send a vintage watch to RSC.
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Old 22 September 2016, 01:42 AM   #21
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Despite the bit of aggression, the point was that your blanket statement about RSC being the only acceptable place to service a watch was not accurate.

It's not about having a vested interest, it's more about the possibility that you might not be knowledgeable enough to make those kinds of statements.

I've read plenty of horror stories about RSC services going wrong. Especially for vintage. You don't send a vintage watch to RSC.
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No worries, thank you.

Yes, I agree to a point and heard stories about vintages and RSC.
My remark was to new /or like new ones with warranty still in effect.
In that case, why not send it to Dallas RSC? which is where my DSSD is currently.

My perspective was, leverage the power and resources of a Dallas RSC or even the San Fran RSC, which I took my 16613 at one time to have it checked out. You pretty much know they will have to stand beside their work and even if things go south, there is substantial methods to make them liable. Yes , of course, all within reason. And yes, I am quite sure there are plenty of very qualified independents out there, namely Vanessa and others.

thats all I was saying.
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Old 22 September 2016, 01:51 AM   #22
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No worries, thank you.

Yes, I agree to a point and heard stories about vintages and RSC.
My remark was to new /or like new ones with warranty still in effect.
In that case, why not send it to Dallas RSC? which is where my DSSD is currently.
Dude, you're full of it. Backpedal much? So, your original statement was only intended to apply to Rolexes still under warranty? Right.....
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Dude, you're full of it. Backpedal much? So, your original statement was only intended to apply to Rolexes still under warranty? Right.....
I'm full of what?
backpedal to where?
that's it?
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I have to know the difference between those 2.machines to know that I recommend that A Rolex service center service a rolex watch?
Generally speaking, yes - knowing what you're talking about tends to be important when making a recommendation. It's OK not to know, but refraining from making uniformed recommendations is probably a good idea
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after reading this; somewhere in switzerland the head of rsc training worldwide is crying in his schnapps and puking a toblerone.
Training for the USA RSCs is done out of the PA location. They know what they're doing - they have intentionally turned the RSCs into a repair factory.
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The San Francisco independent, but licensed through Rolex RSC works on older Rolex & Tudor watches..........and I have been happy with their work.
Giovanni has always been good to me. That wouldn't be a bad choice.
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Generally speaking, yes - knowing what you're talking about tends to be important when making a recommendation. It's OK not to know, but refraining from making uniformed recommendations is probably a good idea
But he was only recommending RSC for watches still under warranty (insert sarcasm emoji here). At least that's what he now claims....
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Edvi from ABC was hands down amazing. They gave my explorer ii a custom look and service. After hearing all the RSC horror stories, no thank you.


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I did not know this. Please disregard my post.
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