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Carolina · 17 August 2008, 01:18 PM

I'm watching the movie "Pride & Prejudice" right now - the 2005 version, not the BBC version with Colin Firth

. This takes place in Georgian England, 1813 I believe.

In the scene I just watched, Elizabeth is gazing out a window overlooking the beautiful grounds of a vast estate. It is a sunny day, and there is a large fountain spraying a plume of water directly out of the ground.

How is it possible for there to be a such a fountain in a time when electricity and sophisticated plumbing have yet to be invented? Am I missing something major, or did the director just fall asleep on this one?

I'm certain someone here will know the answer...

Letsgodiving · 17 August 2008, 01:33 PM

I have no specific knowledge regarding fountains but they had sophisticated steam energy at that time that could easily be converted to produce such an effect. There were steam engines during that period that were quite powerful. Whether that is the case here I'm not sure but they certainly had the capability to do so.

jdc · 17 August 2008, 05:51 PM

The Romans had fountains, water was received by aqueducts, stored in cisterns, gravity did the rest.

Lots of the stately British gardens were modeled on ones seen in Italy when people went on grand tours. Most famous is Tivoli garden. Romans took garden design from Greek models.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4YluuIjN4w

Uncle-AJ · 17 August 2008, 07:11 PM

How does the fountain of youth work? I need it badly.

toph · 17 August 2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jdc

The Romans had fountains, water was received by aqueducts, stored in cisterns, gravity did the rest.

Lots of the stately British gardens were modeled on ones seen in Italy when people went on grand tours. Most famous is Tivoli garden. Romans took garden design from Greek models.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4YluuIjN4w

Thre used to be a TV series called "what the romans did for us"- very informative and educational.

AJF · 17 August 2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Carolina

I'm watching the movie "Pride & Prejudice" right now - the 2005 version, not the BBC version with Colin Firth

. This takes place in Georgian England, 1813 I believe.

In the scene I just watched, Elizabeth is gazing out a window overlooking the beautiful grounds of a vast estate. It is a sunny day, and there is a large fountain spraying a plume of water directly out of the ground.

How is it possible for there to be a such a fountain in a time when electricity and sophisticated plumbing have yet to be invented? Am I missing something major, or did the director just fall asleep on this one?

I'm certain someone here will know the answer...

On a side note if you are a Colin Firth fan try getting a copy of the BBC film Tumbledown. Based on the true life experiences of Robert Lawarence, an Officer in the Scotts Guards during the Battle of Mount Tumbledown in the Falklands War. It is one of his best performances.

AJF.

1MAC · 18 August 2008, 01:33 AM

GRAVITY- It's the law.

jasonbellevue · 18 August 2008, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jdc

The Romans had fountains, water was received by aqueducts, stored in cisterns, gravity did the rest.

Lots of the stately British gardens were modeled on ones seen in Italy when people went on grand tours. Most famous is Tivoli garden. Romans took garden design from Greek models.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4YluuIjN4w

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Originally Posted by 1MAC

GRAVITY- It's the law.

Martin and Mike are both correct, Carolina. The ancient water fountains were gravity fed.

You can read more about it, here:

http://www.chatsworth.org/whattodo/g...waterworks.htm

Jimbits76 · 18 August 2008, 03:32 AM

Ooops came to this a little late...

Gravity. water riser etc...job's been done without the archy...nah I'm redundant!

J

JJ Irani · 18 August 2008, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Letsgodiving

I have no specific knowledge regarding fountains but they had sophisticated steam energy at that time that could easily be converted to produce such an effect. There were steam engines during that period that were quite powerful. Whether that is the case here I'm not sure but they certainly had the capability to do so.

Seems about right!!

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Originally Posted by Uncle-AJ

How does the fountain of youth work? I need it badly.

That's how hijacks start!!

jdc · 18 August 2008, 04:15 AM

[QUOTE=JJ Irani;713256]Seems about right!!

JJ you are priceless

Goodwatch · 18 August 2008, 04:24 AM

[quote=jdc;713313]

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Seems about right!!

JJ you are priceless

If he doesn't stop, there will be a price on his head!

Yes, this is how hijacks start, my bad

Carolina · 18 August 2008, 05:49 AM

Wow, thanks guys. You are a wealth of information! I was aware of the ancient aquaducts as far as irrigation and drinking water, but I guess I didn't know the half of it!

And that video was beautiful.

Carolina · 18 August 2008, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AJF

On a side note if you are a Colin Firth fan try getting a copy of the BBC film Tumbledown. Based on the true life experiences of Robert Lawarence, an Officer in the Scotts Guards during the Battle of Mount Tumbledown in the Falklands War. It is one of his best performances.

AJF.

Thanks very much, Aly! I'm looking forward to it!

Carolina · 18 August 2008, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Carolina

Thanks very much, Aly! I'm looking forward to it!

Bleah - it looks like I can only get it if I am in the UK (or have a DVD player that plays European DVDs).

redshirt1957 · 18 August 2008, 06:50 AM

Or to put it in terms that I understand; even the earth has gas.

AJF · 18 August 2008, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Carolina

Bleah - it looks like I can only get it if I am in the UK (or have a DVD player that plays European DVDs).

You should try and get hold of it, it is a stunning performance with Colin playing the part of a Scotts Guards Captain who survives Tumbledown having lost 45% of his brain thanks to a sniper's bullet.

It won about 8-10 BAFTA's and played to 10 million when first aired in 1988.

One of the worse battle scenes ever depicted in TV/Films. Shows first hand what clearing trenches is like from the soldiers view.

Might be worth trying the BBC website direct.

AJF.

Carolina · 18 August 2008, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AJF

You should try and get hold of it, it is a stunning performance with Colin playing the part of a Scotts Guards Captain who survives Tumbledown having lost 45% of his brain thanks to a sniper's bullet.

It won about 8-10 BAFTA's and played to 10 million when first aired in 1988.

One of the worse battle scenes ever depicted in TV/Films. Shows first hand what clearing trenches is like from the soldiers view.

Might be worth trying the BBC website direct.

AJF.

Whoa. 45% of his brain? I honestly would not have thought it possible to survive such an injury.

Carolina · 18 August 2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by redshirt1957

Or to put it in terms that I understand; even the earth has gas.

You have farting on the brain!

AJF · 18 August 2008, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Carolina

Whoa. 45% of his brain? I honestly would not have thought it possible to survive such an injury.

I confess to rounding up, the exact was 43% of his brain and was left paralysed down one side of his body.

AJF

Art161 · 18 August 2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 1MAC

GRAVITY- It's the law.

There is no gravity. The earth sucks.

ratae1950 · 19 August 2008, 02:51 AM

The Tzar's fountain at Chatsworth House designed by Joseph Paxton is fed from a 'man made' lake in the hills close by but high above the fountain. You can simulate the effect by filling a long hose pipe, get someone to put a finger over one end then hold the diconnected from the tap [faucet] high above the up turned 'plugged' other end. Tell the plugger to release their end and the water will spout up above the upturned lower end---the greater the height differential the higher the spout.
The Chatsworth House gardens are one of the most beautiful places to visit in England.

17 August 2008, 01:18 PM	#1
Carolina "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: North Carolina Watch: it, Bubba! Posts: 6,271	Someone may know the answer... I'm watching the movie "Pride & Prejudice" right now - the 2005 version, not the BBC version with Colin Firth . This takes place in Georgian England, 1813 I believe. In the scene I just watched, Elizabeth is gazing out a window overlooking the beautiful grounds of a vast estate. It is a sunny day, and there is a large fountain spraying a plume of water directly out of the ground. How is it possible for there to be a such a fountain in a time when electricity and sophisticated plumbing have yet to be invented? Am I missing something major, or did the director just fall asleep on this one? I'm certain someone here will know the answer... __________________ . .Member #5380 .

17 August 2008, 01:33 PM	#2
Letsgodiving "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Virginia, US Watch: SD 16600 Posts: 4,319	I have no specific knowledge regarding fountains but they had sophisticated steam energy at that time that could easily be converted to produce such an effect. There were steam engines during that period that were quite powerful. Whether that is the case here I'm not sure but they certainly had the capability to do so. __________________ The fool, with all his other faults, has this also - he is always getting ready to live. - Epicurus (341–270 BC)

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Uncle-AJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Real Name: Adrian Location: Bolton, UK. Watch: Daytona 116520 Posts: 6,844	How does the fountain of youth work? I need it badly. __________________ A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.........Segal's Law Member #10

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1MAC "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Leawood, Kansas Watch: Submariner 16610 Posts: 854	GRAVITY- It's the law. __________________ Time wounds all heels.

18 August 2008, 05:49 AM	#13
Carolina "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: North Carolina Watch: it, Bubba! Posts: 6,271	Wow, thanks guys. You are a wealth of information! I was aware of the ancient aquaducts as far as irrigation and drinking water, but I guess I didn't know the half of it! And that video was beautiful. __________________ . .Member #5380 .

17 August 2008, 05:51 PM	#3
jdc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: UK Posts: 7,023	The Romans had fountains, water was received by aqueducts, stored in cisterns, gravity did the rest. Lots of the stately British gardens were modeled on ones seen in Italy when people went on grand tours. Most famous is Tivoli garden. Romans took garden design from Greek models. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4YluuIjN4w

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Jimbits76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,407	Ooops came to this a little late... Gravity. water riser etc...job's been done without the archy...nah I'm redundant! J

18 August 2008, 04:15 AM	#11
jdc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: UK Posts: 7,023	[QUOTE=JJ Irani;713256]Seems about right!! JJ you are priceless

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redshirt1957 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Bubba Location: Bitsyville! Watch: Blue YM today! Posts: 10,053	Or to put it in terms that I understand; even the earth has gas.

19 August 2008, 02:51 AM	#22
ratae1950 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Cambridge Ma Posts: 2,331	Water pressure The Tzar's fountain at Chatsworth House designed by Joseph Paxton is fed from a 'man made' lake in the hills close by but high above the fountain. You can simulate the effect by filling a long hose pipe, get someone to put a finger over one end then hold the diconnected from the tap [faucet] high above the up turned 'plugged' other end. Tell the plugger to release their end and the water will spout up above the upturned lower end---the greater the height differential the higher the spout. The Chatsworth House gardens are one of the most beautiful places to visit in England. __________________ Yunnoworameenmiduck

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