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Old 26 August 2008, 08:04 AM   #1
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Changing A Bezel Insert...by Jocke..

We get a number of requests for Jockes excellent bezel insert replacement tutorial..

So, here by popular request....


Jocke's Bezel Insert Tutorial


If you are planning to change an old one for a slightly newer one you need to know this.

...............................Rolex Sub Insert Sizes........................

...........Old Sub .................................................. .........New Sub
5513, 5512, 1665, 1680 ......................................16808,16800, 16618, 16610
Outside Diameter: 36.55mm ...................................Outside Diameter: 37.65mm
Inside Diameter: 30.3mm .......................................Inside Diameter: 30.7mm


New Style Sub no date ............................................... Sea Dweller
14060,14060M .................................................. ....16660
Outside Diameter: 36.55mm .....................................Outside Diameter: 36.65
Inside Diameter: 29.7mm ..........................................Inside Diameter: 29.70mm


.....................Part Numbers For the GMT Insert ..............

Black with white numbers 315-16750-1
Red/Blue with white numbers 315-16750-6
Bronze/Yellow with yellow numbers 315-16753-5
Black with yellow numbers 315-16753-1
Black with yellow numbers 315-16758-1
Bronze with yellow numbers 315-1675-3
Bronze with yellow numbers 315-16758-3
Black/Red with white numbers 315-16760-7
Black with white numbers 315-16700-1
Red/Blue with white numbers 315-16700-6
Bronze/Yellow with yellow numbers 315-16713-5
Black with yellow numbers 315-16718-1
Bronze with yellow numbers 315-16718-3

.............GMT Insert sizing:.............
The 1675/16750 ...............have an I.D. of 30.2 and an O.D. of 37.75mm
The 16700/16760/16710.... have an I.D. of 30.7 and an O.D. of 37.65mm
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Old 9 April 2009, 09:13 PM   #2
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dude scary as hell! but thanks for the info
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Old 15 April 2009, 01:52 PM   #3
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Great technique, I also tape my case knife to avoid scratches on the underside of the bezel ring.
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Old 17 April 2009, 08:42 AM   #4
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Simple & easy--nicely done.
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Old 4 June 2009, 01:28 AM   #5
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We get a number of requests for Jockes excellent bezel insert replacement tutorial..

So, here by popular request....


Jocke's Bezel Insert Tutorial


If you are planning to change an old one for a slightly newer one you need to know this.

...............................Rolex Insert Sizes........................

...........Old Sub .................................................. .........New Sub
5513, 5512, 1665, 1680 ......................................16808,16800, 16618, 16610
Outside Diameter: 36.55mm ...................................Outside Diameter: 37.65mm
Inside Diameter: 30.3mm .......................................Inside Diameter: 30.7mm


New Style Sub no date ............................................... Sea Dweller
14060,14060M .................................................. ....16660
Outside Diameter: 36.55mm .....................................Outside Diameter: 36.65
Inside Diameter: 29.7mm ..........................................Inside Diameter: 29.70mm

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Old 18 June 2009, 01:01 AM   #6
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Interesting,

Perhaps one of the reasons Rolex are so expensive (but a good thing), each watch is truly different...the 14060 is not just a 16610 with a different dial and no date, it is a completely different, non interchangeable watch...
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Old 18 July 2009, 11:52 AM   #7
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using the handle of my jeweler's pliers (rubber coated) to run along that last part of the insert is a life saver.
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Old 28 August 2009, 12:02 PM   #8
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Extremely well done and helpful. Thank you!
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Old 15 September 2010, 05:57 AM   #9
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Old 15 September 2010, 05:59 AM   #10
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will the same procedure apply for a Djust 16220? thnx
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Old 18 September 2010, 06:02 AM   #11
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Interested in knowing the ID and OD of the GMT 6542 and whether there was a difference between the bakelite versions and the middle-year metal insert? Also, are they the same size as the Sub 6538?
Great post by the way. Going home tonight to try FINALLY try to replace my bezel. Thanks!
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Old 5 April 2011, 06:48 AM   #12
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Hi guys,
My old man's snowflake has been hidden away in a shoebox, without a bezel for about 15 years and he's finally decided I can have it if I get the missing parts and looking good again. Anybody know where I can find a blue bezel? I need all the bits! I've had a look at Jocke's tutorial and I don't seem to have a hole for the spring - am I meant to?? Is it because mine is bi-directional??

Any help would be much appreciated!

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P.s. would also love to get a box and the anchor at some stage - where can I get these from?? Can anyone tell I'm addicted to this watch?
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Old 5 April 2011, 06:06 PM   #13
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Successfully changed the Pepsi insert to the coke.
Followed Jocke's instructions and it was easy. The only thing I didn't like was the glue residue the masking tape left over, I'll be using a thin piece of cloth instead in future.
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Old 17 December 2011, 03:49 PM   #14
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I have an 1987 model (97xxxxx) and it to doesn't have the spring/detent mechanism. Snapping it off is similar though I never worried about scratching the case. This guy has been a workhorse.
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Old 26 June 2013, 12:03 AM   #15
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Successfully changed the Pepsi insert to the coke.
Followed Jocke's instructions and it was easy. The only thing I didn't like was the glue residue the masking tape left over, I'll be using a thin piece of cloth instead in future.
I have found that just taping the knife works perfectly with no worries of marking the watch and residue not an issue.
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Old 26 June 2013, 03:15 AM   #16
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everytime I've seen the photos, I wish Jocke had cleaned the case before putting the bezel back on. A few seconds with a qtip and it'd be spotless.
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Old 29 June 2013, 07:53 AM   #17
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So as asked above... Will this process work with the datejust 16220 R? I would like to put the original bezel back on myself if possible.

Thanks!
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Old 29 June 2013, 09:53 AM   #18
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will the same procedure apply for a Djust 16220? thnx
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So as asked above... Will this process work with the datejust 16220 R? I would like to put the original bezel back on myself if possible.

Thanks!
No it will not.

The datejust is a press-fit to the case, and is paramount to the integrity of the waterproof design of the case....totaly different to the GMT/Sub.
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Old 21 August 2014, 05:16 AM   #19
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just a question

hi all

here is my first post ;)

i'd like to know if it is possible to change the black bezel of my Sub ref 16610 (bought in 2007) for others colors ?

indeed i really like the bezel of the brand new submariner and the classic green one and would like to know if the size could match.

where to find them ?

thanks a lot
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Old 21 August 2014, 05:26 AM   #20
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hi all

here is my first post ;)

i'd like to know if it is possible to change the black bezel of my Sub ref 16610 (bought in 2007) for others colors ?

indeed i really like the bezel of the brand new submariner and the classic green one and would like to know if the size could match.

where to find them ?

thanks a lot
hi and welcome to the forum...why not start a new thread on this subject in the general section where a lot more members are likely to see it.
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Old 21 August 2014, 06:04 AM   #21
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Old 6 October 2014, 10:18 AM   #22
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For twenty six years, I waited to learn how to do this. Thank you so much.
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Old 22 March 2015, 10:40 PM   #23
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Great tutorial!
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Old 22 March 2015, 10:48 PM   #24
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Used this technique numerous times throughout the years thank you ....


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Old 6 May 2015, 09:30 PM   #25
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Thanks, I've just swapped the insert of my coke for the black, it looks amazing
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Old 29 May 2015, 04:37 AM   #26
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Is it possible to change a sub bezel to the black and blue GMT II bezel? The diameters are different I believe.
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Old 13 June 2015, 01:49 PM   #27
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Will it damage the watch at all repeatedly swapping bezel inserts?
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Old 13 June 2015, 06:48 PM   #28
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Will it damage the watch at all repeatedly swapping bezel inserts?
I'm not 100% sure of damaging the watch but I heard it's not good to swap the bezel inserts so many times. Eventually overtime wear and tear may damage the watch?
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I'm not 100% sure of damaging the watch but I heard it's not good to swap the bezel inserts so many times. Eventually overtime wear and tear may damage the watch?
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out. Not much feedback on it from anyone. Thanks.
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Old 14 June 2015, 07:51 AM   #30
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the other thing i do is to turn the bezel to a random position first , so its not always the same part of the bezel that gets the leverage ,,,, great pics jocke ,,
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