Submariner +14 seconds per day

[cyclone3565]

My two year old Submariner has been keeping time to within 3-4 seconds, but here recently it has been gaining approximately 14 seconds for every 24 hours. Is there a position I can place it in during non-wearing hours to maybe offset this. Jared's in Fort Worth wants to send it to Rolex, Dallas and I am not sure I want to be without for several weeks. Any help and opinions would be great.

[toph]

i would have it sent away it will be far better in the long run- even though it may seem like a lifetime while it is away

[Tools]

Why don't you go to the Dallas RSC yourself....

They might regulate it while you wait.........

[cyclone3565]

I would have to go during the week, and I can't afford to miss work.

[Rolexitis]

Martin I would sent it in to RSC and just do without it for a couple of weeks

[GBJIV]

Send it in..

[dotcomakazee]

Originally Posted by cyclone3565

My two year old Submariner has been keeping time to within 3-4 seconds, but here recently it has been gaining approximately 14 seconds for every 24 hours. Is there a position I can place it in during non-wearing hours to maybe offset this. Jared's in Fort Worth wants to send it to Rolex, Dallas and I am not sure I want to be without for several weeks. Any help and opinions would be great.

Take it in yourself. It's a treat going to Dallas RSC and you might be able to pick up some cool magazines.

[Z-Sub]

I would send it in to get it checked or regulated as well

[Erix]

Originally Posted by Z-Sub

I would send it in to get it checked or regulated as well

x2

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Tools

Why don't you go to the Dallas RSC yourself....

They might regulate it while you wait.........

Have to agree with Larry regulation is a very simple process takes around 30 minutes start to finish.If your local AD has in-house watchmaker he could do it while you wait.Fact be any competent watchmaker could service regulated any Rolex watch.And if he has a parts account could service,repair,or regulate as good as the RSC.But for a case bracelet polish etc IMHO the RSC cannot be beat.

[swatty]

I think the best position would be at an RSC

[cyclone3565]

Thanks everyone,

I will call them today to see what their hours are and how late I could stop in and actually wait for it.

[cyclone3565]

I just got off the phone with Dallas and was told by their customer service rep that they do not regulate while one waits. I was told that they disassemble the watch, inspect all parts for damage, regulate, pressure test, and QC the whole thing. Sounds more like an annual service than a minor adjustment for a few seconds. I think I will go to Jared's this afternoon/evening with my paperwork and discuss this with them. I don't want the thing overhauled, something about wasting hundreds of dollars.

[videobob]

What was the price quote?
Mine runs a little fast too, I need to get my watch over hauled!!!

[videobob]

I just called Rolex Dallas, $550 for a full service.
I also need a dial, hands and insert so basically that's almost $1000
Wow...what a rip.

[B-ling88]

Have you tried self regulating overnight resting positions? Also when you take if off going to bed what position are u resting it at? If dial up will run fast. If crown down will lose a few seconds, crown up will lose even more seconds. But not all Rolexes act this way but you can try before sending it off. Hope this helps.

[acce1999]

Martin,

It could be an issue of main spring tension. The power reserve is some 48 hours when fully wound, and all watches are adjusted with good tension on the main spring. I have noticed that there is a dramatic change of accuracy after some 30 hours if the watch is left unused (not winding it). The last 8 hours, for example, my 3000 based Explorer can loose as much as ten seconds (!), but when fully wound and used regurlary on a daily basis it is within a second. (It is newly serviced.) Same thing for an 3130-based Air-king.

The state of the mainspring depends very much on your level of activity. There are people not moving their wrist enough, so they are always at the lower end of tension, it even happens that their watches stops on their wrists (!) (I guess they are sitting still very often).

Getting an even torque from the main spring has always been a problem. That is why some watches has double main spring barrels (which also increases power reserve), and torque has in many cases greater impact on accuracy than position and temperature.

Could this be the case for you?

Give the watch a full 35 to 40 winds, and the carry it daily, for a week or so, and check the accuracy. You can even give it an extra twenty winds every evening to make sure it operates under maximum tension.

If you, after this, still experiences a change in accuracy, going to +14 seconds per day, I would have it checked upon.

Send me a PM if it was difficult to understand...

Best,

A

[ROLEX MAN]

it needs TLC

[f16570]

My AD regulated my Exp II while I waited. No charge and only took half an hour.

[acce1999]

Originally Posted by B-ling88

Have you tried self regulating overnight resting positions? Also when you take if off going to bed what position are u resting it at? If dial up will run fast. If crown down will lose a few seconds, crown up will lose even more seconds. But not all Rolexes act this way but you can try before sending it off. Hope this helps.

This recommendation relates to calibers 15XX, not the current 31XX, so it is correct that it do not apply to all Rolex models.

Best,

A

[videobob]

Are there positions that affect the modern Subs?

[Art161]

Originally Posted by f16570

My AD regulated my Exp II while I waited. No charge and only took half an hour.

Was this a brand new watch? A simple regulation does not take long.

In Martin's situation, the watch was doing okay for two years, and then its timekeeping changed rather dramatically. The suspicion by RSC is, I am rather certain, that it might not be a simple regulation. There might be a defective part. They don't want to promise that the problem will be corrected while the customer waits, and then have to say it will take weeks to complete the job.

[MikeV]

Normally I would say just leave it alone, but i agree 14 secs is alot and you would be re-adjusting the time on your watch too often. Try acce1999's suggestion and if it doesn't work send it in. As for the self regulation with positioning of the watch I thought someone posted here that it doesn't really make a noticeable difference on modern Rolexes, and even if it did it would only help with 1-2 seconds.

[acce1999]

Just had to follow up on this: I had to test more, so I have left my Explorer II resting over the weekend. On the wrist (with full tension on main spring) it runs spot on, but resting thing start to happen, after ca 36 hours it starts to loose one (1) second per hour (!), so on friday it was spot on, just recently it had lost 11 seconds.

Also. A similar test on my Explorer, gives that it starts to behave like that after some 30 to 36 hours, but it gains time. Also about one second per hour. On the wrist, fully wound it is spot on.

So if I do not wind the watches when I pick them up for use, and they are on the last 10% of the tension state, and if I am sitting still I will not improve tension, perhaps just maintain it, and in that case it will not be surprising if I get a loss of 14 seconds per day.

Saying this it would be interesting to get some feedback from Martin now.

Best,

A

[chazha]

get a service

[Parachrom]

Ah yes the old no work no pay curse of the hard working stiff.

Makes it tough to enjoy the simple pleasures of owning a Rolex when the compnay has our sould chained to their worthless tasks. Dont they understand there is more to life than juist working.. Have they no soul? Clearly the owners must wear timex or some such lesser timepiece or they would understand the anxiety a Rolex owners gets when their timepiece begins to run too fast or slow. This should qualify as "sick time" and should be covered