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Old 20 March 2017, 10:59 PM   #1
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To SubC or not to SubC? That is my question.

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I consider the Speedy the best non-Rolex SS sport watch for the Rolex collector. It really has a place in any collection for the reasons mentioned. I don't wear mine much, but when I do I realize how cool it is. Also it really is a lot of bang for the buck, and you won't make much on a sale. Doesn't make sense to sell it.


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+1 to that.

But I would add, he seems to have the 311.30.42.30.01.005 speedy, which can easily fund almost half of the SubC date. Not sure what the US market is but here in canada, my 006 speedy can sell for about CAD$4.5k to $5k used and a SubC date brand new is CAD $8.2k.


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Old 20 March 2017, 11:47 PM   #2
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The SubC is always a great addition to a collection, you should get it.
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Old 21 March 2017, 12:04 AM   #3
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Portland, do not sell the Speedy to fund a SubC. The Black Bay, yes. The DJ, Speedy and SubC would make a killer collection.
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Old 21 March 2017, 12:14 AM   #4
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Do I consolidate my collection even further and sell off the Speedy and the Black Bay and buy a sub? The term "grail" is thrown around loosely these days so I won't use it. But the black SubC has been my "dream" watch for the longest time. Every time I see one I get all "oooo" and "aaaah". I've lost count how many times I have tried one on in an AD. I guess my concern is, is it all that it's cracked up to be in real life?

I thought about just saving up and buying one and keeping what I have, however I truly do not like having a bunch of watches around the house. If I'm not regularly wearing the watch, I don't see the point of keeping it.

So what do you guys think, sell the Speedy and Black Bay and buy a gently used SubC? Or do I keep the Speedy and Black Bay?
Get your dream watch. Sometimes you just gotta scratch that itch.

That would still leave you with the two of the most iconic Rolex watches, the DJ and a sub. You can always add something down the road if you feel like you're needing something.
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Old 21 March 2017, 05:03 AM   #5
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Old 21 March 2017, 05:14 AM   #6
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Speedy does not sell.
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Old 21 March 2017, 08:21 AM   #7
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If the SubC is your dream watch and you've tried it on and fits great (you said you have smaller wrists) then go for it. Personally I would say try the Speedy on a leather strap before you get rid of it. The black strap your Datejust on would fit perfect or a nice quality brown leather. The nice thing about the Speedy is it looks great on the bracelet and strap. If it still doesn't do anything for you then get rid of it and the Black Bay.

The Black Bay's are nice but I don't like their side profile...just too big of a case wall without anything breaking it up for me.
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Old 21 March 2017, 08:34 AM   #8
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If the SubC is your dream watch and you've tried it on and fits great (you said you have smaller wrists) then go for it. Personally I would say try the Speedy on a leather strap before you get rid of it. The black strap your Datejust on would fit perfect or a nice quality brown leather. The nice thing about the Speedy is it looks great on the bracelet and strap. If it still doesn't do anything for you then get rid of it and the Black Bay. .

Ben, I have a 6.75" flat wrist. The SubC is not too big on my wrist, but it's about as big as I want to go.

As far as the leather strap, when I wear it on one of these straps is when I have reservations about selling the Speedy...





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Old 21 March 2017, 07:32 PM   #9
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Ben, I have a 6.75" flat wrist. The SubC is not too big on my wrist, but it's about as big as I want to go.

As far as the leather strap, when I wear it on one of these straps is when I have reservations about selling the Speedy...





That speedy on a strap is a stunner!!!!
Should I ever get one I'd go that route...
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Old 21 March 2017, 10:41 AM   #10
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Funny (and kind of sweet) update. So this evening I took my wife out to dinner. We discussed a few things so I decided to ask her opinion on this topic. I don't often chat watches with my wife as she could care less about my hobby. She has weighed in here or there in the past but to her all watches are more or less the same.

She listened patiently while I explained what I was thinking of doing and how I was considering selling the Speedy and the Black Bay. As I was talking I noticed she was getting teary eyed. I stopped talking to see if she was ok and she said she was a little disappointed that I was considering selling the Speedy. She was the one who bought it for me as a gift and she expressed how she was hoping it would stay in the family as an heirloom. We don't have many heirlooms from either or our parents. I had no idea she liked it so much. I never figured she would care if I sold it regardless of the fact that she bought it for me.

To be fair, we have had some great experiences together with this watch. One of which was last fall when we entered a watch vlog YouTube channel competition that was "Moon themed" photo contest. We dressed up my youngest daughter like an astronaut, made a paper maché helmet for her, and slapped the Speedy on her wrist on the NASA strap. My daughter was just learning to sit upright that same week so we had a great time trying to position her for her "NASA glamor shot". It was such a fun little photo shoot. We made the paper maché helmet together, we worked together to get our daughter to sit just right, and we snapped about a hundred photos before this one turned out..



We didn't even care if we won or lost we had so much fun with the contest. The contest closed and a few days later I get a message from the YouTube channel telling me they selected our picture! The prize was an author autographed copy of the Speedmaster book "Moonwatch Only".





Well, I guess the decision is made. The Speedy stays. I need to give it more wrist time and see how it goes but my wife helped with the perspective. It sounds weird but I kind of love the watch more knowing how much she likes it and that it has sentimental value for her as well. If down the road I absolutely don't wear it I can sell
It then, but for now it stays.

So here's where I've landed. The Speedy stays, the Black Bay is on the chopping block. I will either;

1) Sell Black Bay and keep Speedy and Datejust and save for sub

Or

2) Sell Black Bay and the Datejust and just go for the sub now.

Or

3) Keep what I have.

I love the Datejust but I just picked it up a couple of months ago so I don't have any real sentimental connection to it though I love how it looks and wears.

I'm going to take some time to think through my options and go from there.

I truly appreciate the feedback that you have all provided. It has been helpful.
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Old 21 March 2017, 11:08 AM   #11
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Funny (and kind of sweet) update. So this evening I took my wife out to dinner. We discussed a few things so I decided to ask her opinion on this topic. I don't often chat watches with my wife as she could care less about my hobby. She has weighed in here or there in the past but to her all watches are more or less the same.

She listened patiently while I explained what I was thinking of doing and how I was considering selling the Speedy and the Black Bay. As I was talking I noticed she was getting teary eyed. I stopped talking to see if she was ok and she said she was a little disappointed that I was considering selling the Speedy. She was the one who bought it for me as a gift and she expressed how she was hoping it would stay in the family as an heirloom. We don't have many heirlooms from either or our parents. I had no idea she liked it so much. I never figured she would care if I sold it regardless of the fact that she bought it for me.

To be fair, we have had some great experiences together with this watch. One of which was last fall when we entered a watch vlog YouTube channel competition that was "Moon themed" photo contest. We dressed up my youngest daughter like an astronaut, made a paper maché helmet for her, and slapped the Speedy on her wrist on the NASA strap. My daughter was just learning to sit upright that same week so we had a great time trying to position her for her "NASA glamor shot". It was such a fun little photo shoot. We made the paper maché helmet together, we worked together to get our daughter to sit just right, and we snapped about a hundred photos before this one turned out..



We didn't even care if we won or lost we had so much fun with the contest. The contest closed and a few days later I get a message from the YouTube channel telling me they selected our picture! The prize was an author autographed copy of the Speedmaster book "Moonwatch Only".





Well, I guess the decision is made. The Speedy stays. I need to give it more wrist time and see how it goes but my wife helped with the perspective. It sounds weird but I kind of love the watch more knowing how much she likes it and that it has sentimental value for her as well. If down the road I absolutely don't wear it I can sell
It then, but for now it stays.

So here's where I've landed. The Speedy stays, the Black Bay is on the chopping block. I will either;

1) Sell Black Bay and keep Speedy and Datejust and save for sub

Or

2) Sell Black Bay and the Datejust and just go for the sub now.

Or

3) Keep what I have.

I love the Datejust but I just picked it up a couple of months ago so I don't have any real sentimental connection to it though I love how it looks and wears.

I'm going to take some time to think through my options and go from there.

I truly appreciate the feedback that you have all provided. It has been helpful.


Nice story. Definitely keep the speedy. I'd sell both the datejust and BB and get the Sub now. If you want to keep the datejust then definitely sell the BB and save the difference.


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Old 21 March 2017, 08:30 PM   #12
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Sell the Tudor. If you sell the Speedy you will end up buying it back (personal experience).
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Old 22 March 2017, 12:14 AM   #13
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If you sell the Speedy you will end up buying it back (personal experience).
Agreed. I've done this twice.
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Old 21 March 2017, 10:58 PM   #14
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Old 22 March 2017, 12:34 AM   #15
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i have a third option: swap the speedy for a thc and that way you'll have a daily watch with a date and you can save for a 116610.
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Old 22 March 2017, 02:19 AM   #16
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Well now you can't sell the speedy. Marriage is much more important than watches.

You COULD buy a 40mm speedy -- CK2998? -- for you daughter's wrist and save the 42mm speedy for your future son. And wear the CK2998 on your 6.5 " wrist until she's old enough...

And then save up for an upgrade to the BB.
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Old 22 March 2017, 02:25 AM   #17
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Would never.... the subc is so common and the case is awfull. The SM and BB are understated and in my opinion watches for people who know watches.
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Old 22 March 2017, 04:10 AM   #18
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Nicely done collection.
Personally I would sell the BB save a bit then get a nicely preowned Sub 5 or 6 digits.
Then you will have a great trio.
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Old 22 March 2017, 04:47 AM   #19
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You are stuck with the speedy forever!!!!!
I would keep saving and keep the DJ.
When you have enough, sell BB and get 116610LN.
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Old 22 March 2017, 05:04 AM   #20
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I've had a lot of watches and my Submariner was the only one I regretted getting rid of. I filled that void with a Sea Dweller 16600. I had no need for the Sea Dweller, but got a smoking deal when I was looking for a Sub or a DJ. My common sense tells me that getting rid of the Tudor would be the best way to go. It's very similar to the Sub.
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Old 22 March 2017, 06:58 AM   #21
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I feel that for watches, your tastes can change dramatically and quickly. Even though the honeymoon period is over with your speedy and you rarely wear it compared to your other watches, sometimes in the future you might go into another honeymoon period and want to wear it everyday. It's safer to keep the speedy and save up for the SubC, and the speedy and SubC together is such an awesome pair that I don't think you'll regret.
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Old 13 April 2017, 10:22 PM   #22
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Hey everyone,

Thanks again for the feedback. In the end, the Speedy stayed and the Datejust went to a new owner. Man, I'm gonna miss that Datejust.

BUT..

In other news, to answer my own question, "To SubC or not to SubC?"

Well, I SubC'd.





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Old 13 April 2017, 10:31 PM   #24
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My input would be to sell both the Omega and the Tudor. Keep the DateJust and buy either a SubDate or a GMT. I find my fluted bezel DateJust on a Jubilee to be my most comfortable watch. I struggled with buying either the GMT or the SubDate and the blue/black bezel seduced me. I also travel a lot and the dual time zone was an inducement. I don't think you could go wrong with either watch.
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Old 13 April 2017, 11:37 PM   #25
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Oh I forgot to mention, the Tudor Black Bay is also gone. That one I was glad to let go, and it's no longer in circulation.

Here's why for those who are curious.

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Old 13 April 2017, 11:40 PM   #26
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Congrats.. on new watch..

I subC'd also a week ago.. but no date..

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Old 14 April 2017, 12:33 AM   #27
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Sell your Black Bay and save up a while longer while keeping your Speedy. Sub is a perfect daily, it's one of my two daily pieces

Edit: Oops I see you already purchased. Congrats it's a great piece!
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Old 14 April 2017, 02:19 AM   #28
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If it is your dream, go for it. Once i got my sub, i didnt really want to wear anything else.
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You should have led with your wife getting it for you and that adorable story about your daughter! ;)
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