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BradSomrak · 27 March 2017, 12:17 PM

I'm interested to see people's opinions on a decision I'm wrestling over:

1) Vintage 1601 DJ;
2) New DJ, 36 mm; or
3) New DJ 41

My inner struggle is the romanticism I have with vintage watches versus the technology/benefits of a new watch, e.g., anti-magnetic properties.

I'm not leaning one way or the other just yet, but I'm getting sick of the struggle and need to make a decision.

What say you, good people.....

csfischer20 · 27 March 2017, 12:21 PM

I loved every DJ I had. My favorite was the 16234 with a blue stick dial, and jubilee bracelet. Perfect combo between new and old imo. I do love the dj2 as well, but haven't owned one. I've had the other 2 and the one in the middle with quickset and acrylic.

watchwatcher · 27 March 2017, 12:29 PM

(3. Best DJ out there, IMO.

Maiden · 27 March 2017, 01:00 PM

I had a 1980 16014 (pics below) acrylic crystal, 3035 movement, quick set date. A nice mix of vintage and modern. That could be an option, movement was flawless, sold it to pick up a 18238. I will be getting another at some time and think I will go with the six digit version. The 36mm size still gives it that vintage feel IMO. Go with your gut!

Marcus09 · 27 March 2017, 01:02 PM

New 36 all the way!

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vladamir15 · 27 March 2017, 01:03 PM

Dj2 then dj 36 mm imo

blue16613 · 27 March 2017, 01:10 PM

Loved the 1601. Like for many, it was my first Rolex.

Never had any interest in the DJ II. When the Day Dates and Date Justs went the "II" way I was turned off completely.

I was immediately attracted to the DD40 and am planning to add a DJ41 to my collection. "Happy Days Are Here Again!"

CDNWatchNut · 27 March 2017, 01:26 PM

I would go with the traditional 36mm (blue sticks / fluted bezel on jubilee please) if it was my every day wearer, only watch. In a small collection, I might just think about the 41 as an option.

BradSomrak · 27 March 2017, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CDNWatchNut

I would go with the traditional 36mm (blue sticks / fluted bezel on jubilee please) if it was my every day wearer, only watch. In a small collection, I might just think about the 41 as an option.

It would not be an everyday wear; it would be part of a small collection with a sub and Speedy.

Thanks all. I appreciate the ongoing opinions.

Richard Carver · 27 March 2017, 01:59 PM

The 5 digit DJ deserves a look as well. All the joys of a quickset with all the charms of an acrylic crystal. Really nice watches. :)

16030 Engine turned bezel.

Gerardus · 27 March 2017, 04:00 PM

I would go for "the classic".
A mint 5 digit or a BNIB36mm DJ.

Verdi · 27 March 2017, 04:15 PM

36 mm rules when it comes to DJs.

iliketime · 27 March 2017, 11:40 PM

Classic 5 digit datejust for me. Got rid of a two tone and cash in a trade, but i wouldnt say a datejust isnt in the future.

GradyPhilpott · 28 March 2017, 01:54 AM

This is my favorite DJ.

locutus49 · 28 March 2017, 02:16 AM

I owned a 1601 and loved it. But unless your heart is set on vintage, I would buy the newest and best model for YOUR wrist size. I prefer improvements over romantic ideas, but that is me.

kilyung · 28 March 2017, 02:16 AM

For me, any DJ with super jubilee clasp. Very disappointed not to see it on the DJ41.

motoikkyu · 28 March 2017, 02:37 AM

I vote 1601. I've owned 3, as well as a 1603. Reason: I have a sick affection for the "wide boy" dials and hands. You can't get that in the quick-set. It's a workhorse movement, there are millions of them around as parts donors, and if you scratch the crystal, you can polish it out with toothpaste. All that fun for under $2K. Unless you absolutely in love with how the new DJ looks on you, go 1601!

Jack T · 28 March 2017, 02:47 AM

Mine is a 116234, you've reminded me how much I like it, need to get it back in rotation. It really is a versatile, beautiful watch. The newer version, vs vintage, isn't all that technically advanced, except for the clasp, but the lines, how it sits on the wrist, just perfect.

Juantxo · 28 March 2017, 02:51 AM

Buy a new watch. With old watches you never know what you'll get and soon you'll wish you had bought new. I like the 36mm Rolex, my wrist is almost 7 3/4", better than any other. However, the new movement on the 41mm is something to consider. But if 41mm is too big for you, just go for a classic, never bested, 36mm. DJ.

mementomori1983 · 28 March 2017, 03:51 AM

Based on your post I think you'll be very happy with a modern DJ 36 on a jubilee bracelet. A DJ 36 gives you nearly all the technology upgrades of the past few decades, and all of the charm of a watch that retains many of the desirable characteristics of the vintage models (traditional case size, traditional dial options, jubilee bracelet).

I was generally a snob for 5-digit references. I've owned a 16014 and a 16220. My perceptions changed when I got a 116234. The super jubilee is a substantial upgrade. I never thought I'd like the somewhat fatter and high-polished lugs, but I got over that very quickly when I saw how well it complimented the fluted bezel. Rolex knew exactly what it was doing with this change.

Loved the 116234 so much that I've since added the two-tone version (116233) to the collection. These are probably the only 6-digit models I'll ever own. Just great watches, IMO.

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AK797 · 28 March 2017, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

(3. Best DJ out there, IMO.

jaySL350 · 28 March 2017, 04:49 AM

i have both,,,my 16013 i love but my dj2 in wg and ss is the boss,,,
light,understated compared to my blnr and maybe my fav ever watch,,
i wont take her off except for cleaning lol,,,
very best of luck ,,
any of those your interested in are lovely watches,,,jay

blue16613 · 28 March 2017, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

For me, any DJ with super jubilee clasp. Very disappointed not to see it on the DJ41.

My bet is that with time (if not now) one will be able to order the super jubilee clasp with the DJ41.

Same thing with dials. Right now some are shown with the oyster bracelet but not with the jubilee (and vice versa). I have to believe if a particular dial can be had with one bracelet it can be had with the other. Of course with the important caveat that you don't want to put a dial for the steel and gold DJ41 on to a SS DJ41.

Time will tell, I suppose.......

ukflyboy · 28 March 2017, 05:57 AM

5 digit DJs are in my opinion the best value Rolex buy out there at the moment. You benefit from the same movement as the 6 digit but for less than half the price when buying used. I actually prefer the more classic looks of the 5 digit dial and can take or leave the hidden clasp, so it's a winner!

BrownDog09 · 28 March 2017, 06:40 AM

If I can pull off a 34mm Date you will totally good with the 36mm Datejust. I'm not a small guy. I'm 5'11" 195 and 7" wrists.

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crowncollection · 28 March 2017, 05:37 PM

Get a few 1601's they are great value imho

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Rocket_Man · 28 March 2017, 05:59 PM

I don't know what watch you should buy, but for me it will be the DJ41 Blue Stick with Fluted dial. I have a vintage 5-digit but I don't wear it anymore. The new DJ41 is an improvement on the DJ2 in every way for me anyway. New movement, better styling.

subking86 · 28 March 2017, 07:37 PM

Either one is great! I loved my DJ. Unfortunately, we sold it 2 weeks ago to fund a Cartier for my wife. I will be adding either another 36 or the new 41 at some point in the future. Probably a few more years as I just got an Aqua Terra (38 mm) and checks the same boxes as the Datejust.

playmore009 · 28 March 2017, 09:13 PM

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Get a few 1601's they are great value imho

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Now I know where all the wideboys are!

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crowncollection · 28 March 2017, 09:16 PM

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Now I know where all the wideboys are!

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cheers

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27 March 2017, 12:17 PM	#1
BradSomrak "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Real Name: Brad Location: Pittsburgh Watch: 126710BLNR Posts: 567	Soliciting Datejust Opinions I'm interested to see people's opinions on a decision I'm wrestling over: 1) Vintage 1601 DJ; 2) New DJ, 36 mm; or 3) New DJ 41 My inner struggle is the romanticism I have with vintage watches versus the technology/benefits of a new watch, e.g., anti-magnetic properties. I'm not leaning one way or the other just yet, but I'm getting sick of the struggle and need to make a decision. What say you, good people.....

27 March 2017, 01:00 PM	#4
Maiden "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 3,652	I had a 1980 16014 (pics below) acrylic crystal, 3035 movement, quick set date. A nice mix of vintage and modern. That could be an option, movement was flawless, sold it to pick up a 18238. I will be getting another at some time and think I will go with the six digit version. The 36mm size still gives it that vintage feel IMO. Go with your gut! Attached Images __________________ Rolex 116613LN Rolex 16610LN Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 41mm Omega Geneve Tag Heuer Aquaracer WAY2112 Orient Ray 2

27 March 2017, 01:02 PM	#5
Marcus09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Batman Location: Gotham City Posts: 1,184	New 36 all the way! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________

27 March 2017, 01:03 PM	#6
vladamir15 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: N/A Watch: AP, VC, Breguet Posts: 1,581	Dj2 then dj 36 mm imo __________________ The Most Valuable Commodity is Time Audemars, Vacheron, Breguet, Jaquet Droz, JLC, Rolex, Omega, Cartier

27 March 2017, 04:00 PM	#11
Gerardus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Gerardus Location: often in the air Watch: ♕ Posts: 12,142	I would go for "the classic". A mint 5 digit or a BNIB36mm DJ. __________________ ♕126610 ♕126333 ♕116300

27 March 2017, 12:21 PM	#2
csfischer20 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: Chris Location: Denver Watch: DD36 Posts: 430	I loved every DJ I had. My favorite was the 16234 with a blue stick dial, and jubilee bracelet. Perfect combo between new and old imo. I do love the dj2 as well, but haven't owned one. I've had the other 2 and the one in the middle with quickset and acrylic.

27 March 2017, 12:29 PM	#3
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,047	(3. Best DJ out there, IMO.

27 March 2017, 01:10 PM	#7
blue16613 Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Chicago Posts: 554	Loved the 1601. Like for many, it was my first Rolex. Never had any interest in the DJ II. When the Day Dates and Date Justs went the "II" way I was turned off completely. I was immediately attracted to the DD40 and am planning to add a DJ41 to my collection. "Happy Days Are Here Again!"

27 March 2017, 01:26 PM	#8
CDNWatchNut "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Juan Location: Sherwood Park, Ab Watch: 114060 Posts: 1,509	I would go with the traditional 36mm (blue sticks / fluted bezel on jubilee please) if it was my every day wearer, only watch. In a small collection, I might just think about the 41 as an option.

27 March 2017, 01:59 PM	#10
Richard Carver "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: US Posts: 2,237	The 5 digit DJ deserves a look as well. All the joys of a quickset with all the charms of an acrylic crystal. Really nice watches. :) 16030 Engine turned bezel.

27 March 2017, 04:15 PM	#12
Verdi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mitch Location: UAE Watch: Big Ben Posts: 2,451	36 mm rules when it comes to DJs. __________________ IG: @watch_idiot_savant

27 March 2017, 11:40 PM	#13
iliketime "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Jack Location: NYC Watch: 16570, 16710 Posts: 1,535	Classic 5 digit datejust for me. Got rid of a two tone and cash in a trade, but i wouldnt say a datejust isnt in the future.

28 March 2017, 01:54 AM	#14
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK047 Posts: 34,460	This is my favorite DJ. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

28 March 2017, 02:16 AM	#15
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	I owned a 1601 and loved it. But unless your heart is set on vintage, I would buy the newest and best model for YOUR wrist size. I prefer improvements over romantic ideas, but that is me.

28 March 2017, 02:16 AM	#16
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	For me, any DJ with super jubilee clasp. Very disappointed not to see it on the DJ41.

28 March 2017, 02:37 AM	#17
motoikkyu 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: PRJ Posts: 1,732	I vote 1601. I've owned 3, as well as a 1603. Reason: I have a sick affection for the "wide boy" dials and hands. You can't get that in the quick-set. It's a workhorse movement, there are millions of them around as parts donors, and if you scratch the crystal, you can polish it out with toothpaste. All that fun for under $2K. Unless you absolutely in love with how the new DJ looks on you, go 1601! __________________ "Do you like Breitling?" "I don't know, really, I've never been Breitled"

28 March 2017, 02:47 AM	#18
Jack T "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Jack Location: The Triangle Watch: Several Posts: 6,719	Mine is a 116234, you've reminded me how much I like it, need to get it back in rotation. It really is a versatile, beautiful watch. The newer version, vs vintage, isn't all that technically advanced, except for the clasp, but the lines, how it sits on the wrist, just perfect. Attached Images __________________ Sub 116613 LN; GMT 116710 LN; Sinn 104R; Exp 214270; GS SBGM221; Omega AT

28 March 2017, 02:51 AM	#19
Juantxo Banned Join Date: May 2016 Location: Utopia Posts: 2,101	Buy a new watch. With old watches you never know what you'll get and soon you'll wish you had bought new. I like the 36mm Rolex, my wrist is almost 7 3/4", better than any other. However, the new movement on the 41mm is something to consider. But if 41mm is too big for you, just go for a classic, never bested, 36mm. DJ.

28 March 2017, 03:51 AM	#20
mementomori1983 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 667	Soliciting Datejust Opinions Based on your post I think you'll be very happy with a modern DJ 36 on a jubilee bracelet. A DJ 36 gives you nearly all the technology upgrades of the past few decades, and all of the charm of a watch that retains many of the desirable characteristics of the vintage models (traditional case size, traditional dial options, jubilee bracelet). I was generally a snob for 5-digit references. I've owned a 16014 and a 16220. My perceptions changed when I got a 116234. The super jubilee is a substantial upgrade. I never thought I'd like the somewhat fatter and high-polished lugs, but I got over that very quickly when I saw how well it complimented the fluted bezel. Rolex knew exactly what it was doing with this change. Loved the 116234 so much that I've since added the two-tone version (116233) to the collection. These are probably the only 6-digit models I'll ever own. Just great watches, IMO. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 March 2017, 04:49 AM	#22
jaySL350 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: jay Location: North London Watch: BBG,Hulk,16013,DJB Posts: 3,278	i have both,,,my 16013 i love but my dj2 in wg and ss is the boss,,, light,understated compared to my blnr and maybe my fav ever watch,, i wont take her off except for cleaning lol,,, very best of luck ,, any of those your interested in are lovely watches,,,jay

28 March 2017, 05:57 AM	#24
ukflyboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: UK Posts: 64	5 digit DJs are in my opinion the best value Rolex buy out there at the moment. You benefit from the same movement as the 6 digit but for less than half the price when buying used. I actually prefer the more classic looks of the 5 digit dial and can take or leave the hidden clasp, so it's a winner!

28 March 2017, 06:40 AM	#25
BrownDog09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Charleston,SC Posts: 97	If I can pull off a 34mm Date you will totally good with the 36mm Datejust. I'm not a small guy. I'm 5'11" 195 and 7" wrists. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 March 2017, 05:37 PM	#26
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	Get a few 1601's they are great value imho Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

28 March 2017, 05:59 PM	#27
Rocket_Man "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,332	I don't know what watch you should buy, but for me it will be the DJ41 Blue Stick with Fluted dial. I have a vintage 5-digit but I don't wear it anymore. The new DJ41 is an improvement on the DJ2 in every way for me anyway. New movement, better styling.

28 March 2017, 07:37 PM	#28
subking86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: key west Watch: 16610 Posts: 811	Either one is great! I loved my DJ. Unfortunately, we sold it 2 weeks ago to fund a Cartier for my wife. I will be adding either another 36 or the new 41 at some point in the future. Probably a few more years as I just got an Aqua Terra (38 mm) and checks the same boxes as the Datejust.

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